A teen commits murder—and gets house arrest, a new car, and $400K in donations. What message does that send?
In this powerful episode of Stay in the Gray, Ryan sits down with former police officer and current school security director Drew for a blunt, uncomfortable conversation on youth violence, race, and the dangerous blur between support and enabling.
🎙 Topics include:
– The Karmelo Anthony case and public reaction
– The Dallas school shooting and repeatable patterns
– Cultural, racial, and parental dynamics in violent youth crime
– What real prevention and accountability look like
⚠️ This one’s not easy. It’s not supposed to be.
🔥 Hit Follow if you’re done watching excuses get more support than victims.
Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction: The Culture of Violence
01:02 - Welcome to Stay in the Gray Podcast
01:40 - Guest Introduction and Show Setup
02:26 - Diving into Controversial Topics
02:41 - Focusing on Local Stories
03:15 - The Case of Teen Violence
04:28 - Cultural Responses to Crime
13:23 - Guest's Professional Background
17:04 - Police Perspective on Racial Issues
34:42 - Community Response to Violence
39:37 - Local School Shooting Incident
41:15 - Details of the Incident
44:11 - Discussion on Cultural and Social Factors
44:55 - Role of Parenting and Male Role Models
47:51 - Influence of Media and Music
59:18 - Law Enforcement and Community Response
01:17:56 - Final Thoughts and Call for Accountability
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It makes me sick to say that, but I do not want my child
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killed because there's a culture that is glorifying violence.
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You're training people to be cowards.
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You're training people to murder in response to a minor
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confrontation. But I don't want my child, when
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they're in high school to go to a sporting event and feel like
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they have to walk on fucking egg shells to tell somebody, hey,
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you know what? This is our tent, please leave.
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And then fear they may be killed in a response.
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I just don't get the defense of crime.
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If someone's on top of you, you know, beating you up, but you
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know, and you crack them in the head with a bottle, you know,
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you can be charged potentially with AG assault because you
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know, it's people see it in the movies and in the TV show.
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Oh, self-defense. You know, anytime there's a
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incident with force or violence, you can get charged.
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Welcome to Stay in the Grave podcast.
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Hey, guys. Hey, Drew.
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How's it going? Bud, welcome.
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People that watch the show know that you've been here before.
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This isn't a new thing. It is April 17th.
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I like to give the day at the beginning of the show.
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No one probably gives a shit, but I do.
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I'm going to let you know it's April 17th.
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How are you? I'm doing good.
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Bro how's life? Life is busy, but it's good.
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It's good, busy but good is what I want to hear.
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I had you back because I enjoy talking with you.
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I also believe that you have a lot to say.
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I think you have a lot of experience in what makes our
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current society so crazy. So let's get into it.
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Let's do it. Tonight's going to be
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uncomfortable for a lot of people.
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I told you that you knew that. Sorry, you're ready.
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Sorry, not sorry, but it needs to be talked about.
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And that's that's the problem. And that's what we'll hear and
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that's what we'll talk about. We're going to focus on two
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stories. There are many, many more, but
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we're going to focus on two of them that have just happened
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local to where we are. So of course, people go, well,
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it took until it was local for you to care.
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Well, that's not true. It just took until it was local
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for me to be able to get the details, for me to be able to
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have people in in the one stories case that I actually
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know. That was, yeah, that was there.
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That was there. And so perhaps you may be right,
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but it doesn't change anything, right?
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So a teen stabs another teen to death.
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House arrest, lowered bond. Community raises over $400
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for this, for this killer. The focal point of the show is
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what message are we sending to the youth with this kind of
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behavior, with this kind of response?
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And we'll tell you about the, the, the stories in a second.
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And I'll let Drew talk. I promise.
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People who know me know I'm going to talk.
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Yeah. But you're the star.
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You know, I try to be the star, Drew, but, you know, tonight
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you're the star. The conversation is difficult.
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And the reason that I'm kind of joking around right now, but it
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it just has to be. We have to have it.
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Yeah. Do you agree?
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And you know what we're going to have so.
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Yeah, I mean, it's it's an issue that needs to be talked about
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and needs to be talked about bluntly and honestly, at least
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from, you know, anyone's point of view.
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Someone just needs to talk about it.
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It's it's like a scab or a Band-Aid on a wound.
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You got to get in there. You got to open it up.
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You got to talk about it. Let's get a dialogue going.
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Otherwise, sweeping it under the rug is not going to help
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anything. Sure.
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And for those of you that haven't figured it out yet, the
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this is about a cultural response to violent crime.
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And it's easy for what we're going to get a lot of shit from.
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I'm just going to let you know, Drew, 2 white boys sitting here
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talking about this. And I understand that.
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Trust me, I get it. You're going to sit here and say
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that all you want, but we still make up the 67% of the country,
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if not a little more, and you need us to listen.
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And I've been wanting to make an impact and I've, and I've been
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wanting to help and I've been wanting to do all these things
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so that I'm not, not just because, but so that I'm not
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viewed as a racist and I'm not viewed as a, as, as somebody
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that, you know, white privilege, all this bullshit.
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But it's very difficult when these stories, which we'll get
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to, we're setting this up big time.
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These stories, the response to these stories, ends up almost
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glamorizing violent crime. What makes you and I want to
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help? What makes us want to champion
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the cause? What makes us want to listen?
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You know, anytime you're wanting to get to the bottom of an
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issue, you have to open a dialogue, you have to listen to
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the other side's point of view. And that's just with anything,
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you know, we can sit here and talk on a, you know, talk on
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something. And if someone disagrees with
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us, that's fine. But listen to our point of view
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1st and construct an argument, not just say no, I don't like
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you or I don't like what you're saying.
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OK, what about us? Let's listen to our opinion, and
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then we'll listen to your opinion if you give the argument
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constructively and concisely, not just spew stuff.
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Well, right. And that's not happening.
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And not to jump to the end of of my issues, but as, as you know,
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I've got 2, two children. And as they grow older, I don't
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want to think though, and believe the way that I am right
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now, which is I don't want them around this culture.
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And I'm, I'm being completely blunt and it's going to make
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people uncomfortable, but I don't want my child when they're
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in high school to go to a sporting event and feel like
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they have to walk on fucking egg shells to tell somebody, hey,
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you know what? This is our tent.
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Please leave and then fear they they may be killed in a
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response. I don't know about you, but when
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I was back back in the day, I'm a little older than you Drew,
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but I back in the day you had a problem.
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Just do this. Just a little bit.
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Fuck you, Drew. But but, but back in the day, it
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was like, all right, how dare you say that to me?
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Let's roll over to the bike racks.
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We're going to throw some fists and then we'd eat lunch together
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the next day and party. That you make some of your best
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friends that way. What has happened and in my
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opinion, again, I hate to I'm I'm, I'm doing a huge lead in
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here. In my opinion, it is a cultural
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thing and people get so angry when somebody says that.
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It just is. You think Austin Metcalf, the
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white kid, really thought there he was going to be killed for
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having a confrontation with somebody and he shouldn't feel
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that way anyway. So we're going to talk about
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this tonight. It's uncomfortable.
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Join us. I think you'll not only be
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entertained sadly, but but hopefully this kind of makes you
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think a little bit whatever side you're on, right?
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Actually, you know, make an argument and talk
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constructively. You know, I tell people all the
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time, if you don't like what I'm saying, back your opinion up
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with facts back, you know, make a smart conversation.
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Don't just be like, oh, you're racist, you're ignorant.
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It's like, OK, tell me why? Oh, no, I'm not going to you
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just you're just ignorant. It's like OK.
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It makes me not want to care. It makes me want to turn away
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and go maybe I'm going to say it drew segregation maybe.
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And and that's fucking sad. It makes me sick to say that.
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But I do not want my child killed because there's a culture
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that is glorifying violence. Yeah.
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Am I being too harsh? And you can tell me?
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Yes. Just because you're a Tell me.
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No, I mean, like I tell every I am leaning towards your opinion.
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I don't, I don't have children right now, but when I do have
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children, I don't want to be have to worrying about them all
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the time. You know, are they going to be
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safe going to school? And a lot of people are going to
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say, Oh, well, you know, you're talking about a black culture, a
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Hispanic culture. You know, you're talking about
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the culture of violence, not just one particular race.
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So, you know, I feel, you know, 100% I don't want to have to.
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I don't want my kids to be killed or hurt by by anybody.
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Now there are some groups, races, affiliates that go ahead
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now that they, you know, glorify violence a little bit, maybe
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more than others, others do. And that's, you know, what you
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want to keep people away from. And that mean that's what I want
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to keep my kids away from. Anyone who's innocent or, you
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know, not hurting anybody doesn't need to be near
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violence. And that's just that's just the
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overall universal concept. And that's where the hard
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discussion comes in is that it seems to be a certain culture
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and it and it just does. And the there are patterns that
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and statistics that point to that.
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It's not, I'm not sitting here going, oh, this one incident
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there. Statistics are there for a
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reason You're talking about. I'm just talking about youth
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with these stories because I think that's where we need to
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focus. People that are older than that,
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they're they're gone, they're long gone.
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And that's sad in my opinion. Not totally, but but for the
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most part, if you attack, no pun intended, the youth with
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inspiration and role models, all the things everybody talks
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about, like we, we make mistakes on this show, Drew.
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Then if we hit it hard there, then they'll come out of it in a
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way that in that same situation, which we'll talk about the
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details in a second, in a situation where they feel the
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conflict, they'll come out of it in a different way, which is, oh
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man, whatever. And I may, I may punch the guy.
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So you're please do that. You're talking the, you know,
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cut the problem off before it gets educate.
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Or solve it with with civilized fist fights.
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Yeah, did you ever you saw the movie Friday, right?
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Yes, I did. It's been a while.
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You. Know ice, you know, ice cubes
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talking about getting a gun or something.
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Johnny Witherspoon's like, you know, you know, what's problem
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with your generation is you just afraid to get in an ass
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whooping. And he's like, you know, back in
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my day, we used to just, you know, punch and talking about,
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you know, people are afraid to, people are afraid to get
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punched, get hit, you know, and I'm not condoning violence for
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sure in any way, but, you know. To me, it seems like there
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there's this culture and there's a there's a black gentleman that
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that runs a he does a YouTube thing and he, I'm so sorry, I
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should have plugged in better than this, But he he said the
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following. He said that there is something
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called dis culture that if a black male in particular, I'm
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sure women too to a point, but black males, if they feel quote
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UN quote disrespected that they need to avenge that.
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And in my opinion, avenging that again, good old fisticuffs or
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you know, I don't know, a good old social media post.
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I don't know. But but killing somebody and
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that's the problem is that this guy and he's a black, a black
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guy who's saying no more, This is the problem.
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We need to address it as this dis culture.
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Have you ever heard of that? No, but like it clicked as soon
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as you. Say it makes sense A. 100% you
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know if someone's. Because they're like they get
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so. How dare you diss me or show me
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disrespect? And it's like if you're that
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weak that you can't just let something roll off your back
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like that. I hate it.
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It's very cowardly and and I hate that I have to call people
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cowards, but right now they are. And I don't want anybody.
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I don't want people to feel like they can't defend themselves.
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But this wasn't self-defense. We'll get into that.
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How about we, how about we move forward here?
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We're we're like, I thought we would keep talking.
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Let me ask you a quick question before we get into this.
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So obviously what we're going to talk about are stories and
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difficult conversations about race and the culture and the
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response to violence, to conflict, all those things.
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As a former, by the way, in case you haven't listened to the
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first true show, I believe it was episode 5 four or something
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like that. He's early in Season 5, right?
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Yeah. Something like that.
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Go back, you can find you'll see his mug on the on the page.
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And you know, we talked about that you were a former police
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officer. Currently you're you.
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In fact, if this is if you want, this is a good spot for you to
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go ahead and tell me all your ventures.
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So go. Ahead let's you're like, let's
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roll, yeah. I own a security guard company.
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Security guard company, yeah. It's licensed by the state of
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Texas and the DPS, it's AB Company.
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It's called Shield Security, PLLC Professional Limited
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Liability Corporation. So I got that going.
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You got that going. And then I own a training
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company, Elite Response Training, and I can do CPRCPRAE.
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D training, training for CPR and what else?
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I can certify people and you know, CPR could teach the class
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to get them certified for CPRAED.
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And what I'm really excited about is I can teach AVERT,
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which is a class offered through HSI, the Health and Safety
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Institute, which is the like governing body.
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You know, whenever you teach someone, certify them in CPR,
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it's either through like the American Red Cross, the Heart
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Association, or this is the Health and Safety Institute.
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And the AVERT is the civilian response to active shooter
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training. And you know, I'm not trying to
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be a, a ghoul or capitalize thing like, oh, there was just a
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shooting. Hey, you need to come, you know,
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learn from me. It's it, that's not what it's
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about, but it's civilian response to active shooter
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training, how to take, you know, the weapon away, how to address
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if a person is it's hit with a gunshot wound.
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Because you know, a lot of people, they don't understand
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that a ambulance cannot come onto a scene until something's
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been, you know, until it's been cleared.
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So, you know, if there's a gunman and a big stop.
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The bleeding, those types of things.
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You got, you got to be able to do something to buy time until
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the police can address the issue or evacuate you guys.
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But you know, someone hits an artery, you know?
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And you, yeah, people don't know all the logistics to that, Like
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they don't understand that kind of thing.
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I I honestly didn't know that, that you had to wait for a
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certain all clear to. And that's just people being an
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innocent way. I mean, I'm not saying that
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people should know that, but this is the, this is what you
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do. Yeah.
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That's yeah, that's what we do. We teach and educate.
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OK. And what's the name of it again?
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It's overt AVERT. Put it over the top, boys.
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Overt AVERT OK, and then your security company is.
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Shield Security. Shield Security.
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PLLC. PLLC.
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And that's just your run-of-the-mill security.
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Yes, security guards, armed security and bodyguard.
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Bodyguard and you also are a security officer for a church
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slash school. Yes, Sir.
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With children, which of course, you know, it's, it's my
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heartstrings. I just, it means so much to me
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that you guys are there doing that for other children, knowing
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that I have kids, my own. And it's a Peace of Mind knowing
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that there are schools that have that and they, they understand
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the need for that. And then you were a former
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police officer in Texas outside of Dallas, correct?
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Yeah, Arlington. Arlington, so you have some
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credentials when it comes to this.
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So law enforcement, yeah, quite a bit.
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So my question to you, it took us 20 minutes to get there.
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My question to you is, we're going to talk about stories that
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have to do with black youth violence, a cultural mindset on
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the response to altercations. As a former police officer,
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you're obviously aware that so many police officers in the
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last, I don't know how many years now.
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It's probably been 5 to 8 years I imagine since all the division
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started. I guess you may have a different
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and you can tell me in a minute I.
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Think it's been about 10 years. Probably 10 years.
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Easily. But this whole idea that the
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police as a whole, which is crazy to me and a lot of people
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argue that it's not as a whole, but it's it's pretty drastic.
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You defund the police, you have all these things, all these
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police view blacks as this, they stereotype them, they pull them
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over and they immediately whatever.
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I have an opinion on why it's called statistics.
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But I'm going to let you answer this question.
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How do you give an honest response if it goes against the
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narrative, which is poor black youth poor, you know, the blacks
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are treated horrible by police officers.
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How do you Give your opinion and say, no, no, this isn't about
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being a racist, which is what you get called.
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This is about experience, statistics, what I've seen,
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which is experience, and just talk a little bit about your
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feelings on that and how you would respond to these people.
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I put you on the spot. No, it's fine.
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I mean it, like you said, it's something we need to talk about
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and get the views out there and, you know, try and open that
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dialogue so people can hear, hey, this person's coming from
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this position in life or this person's coming from that
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position. We watched, you know, a lot of
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videos in the Academy about police shootings and people
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getting shot, officers getting shot and, you know, dying.
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And I mean, it was, it was tough in the Academy, but they were
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like, look, this is what you're going to encounter.
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And it all the gun, all the gunmen, you know, weren't all
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black. Some were, you know, Hispanic
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and some were white. But a lot of it is going to
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depend on the part of the country.
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You know, if there's a part of the country that has more black
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people and the crime rates are high, it's like, well, what's
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the majority there? You know, it, it's going to be
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black people. But just working security.
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The other night there was someone who was in a controlled
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area that necessarily wasn't supposed to be.
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It was after hours. And I was, you know, you have to
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have a key card to get into this certain area.
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And I was, I said, hey, you know, if they're with a guest,
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you know, they're fine to be there.
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But of course, I immediately like, oh, hey, you know, I'm
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security. I don't recognize you.
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Do you have a key card? No.
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OK. And they were just like still
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doing their thing instead of like, stopping to actually talk
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to me respectfully. And it's like, OK, that just
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immediately sets the. And it was, it was a black guy.
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I don't know what his issue was. You know, I was smiling and.
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You know, professionals, you know, can be at least I thought
00:20:24
I was and just immediately not, you know, stopping and, you
00:20:27
know, talking to me like a person.
00:20:29
And he just starts, oh, I don't answer questions.
00:20:32
Oh, I'm, I'm, I'm recording all this.
00:20:33
And it's like, dude, yeah, there's, there's there's no need
00:20:36
for all that. And, you know, we, we talked a
00:20:40
little bit more and then he was getting like agitated,
00:20:44
aggravated. And so I was like, you know
00:20:46
what, We'll talk in a minute. And I went and I called the
00:20:50
deputies to come out because it was, you know, it was a few
00:20:54
guys, but it was one guy I was trying to talk with.
00:20:58
There are a few other guys there.
00:20:59
And I'm like, you know what, situations can go 10 different
00:21:04
ways, 10 different kinds of quick.
00:21:06
So I was like, let's get, you know, someone else out here and
00:21:10
go from there. And immediately when the police
00:21:13
officers got there, the guy was like, Oh, I don't answer
00:21:15
questions. I don't talk to cops.
00:21:18
And it's like, there there's no reason you're not allowed to be
00:21:22
in this area. You know, you're, you know,
00:21:27
you're in the wrong. Let's talk about it, You know,
00:21:30
own up to the fact that, you know, you don't just get a free
00:21:32
pass. And he he had said, Oh, you
00:21:34
just, you know, are you asking to see my gate card because I'm
00:21:39
black? It's like, no, because I don't
00:21:41
recognize you and you're in a controlled area.
00:21:45
Who are you and why are you here?
00:21:47
Why do you think this, that mindset is, I mean, you're
00:21:50
talking about in the big scheme of things, a couple of incidents
00:21:56
on two hands, if not one that are legitimate.
00:22:00
OK, we need to look into this. But overall, it's it's not what
00:22:06
it's being made out to be. And so all of a sudden you have
00:22:09
the culture. In my opinion, I'm going to keep
00:22:11
using the word culture in your story where this person
00:22:15
immediately feels like they can go to that.
00:22:17
That's their go to. That's their trump card, if you
00:22:20
will, and say, hey, how dare you do this?
00:22:24
I can do anything I. Want, which is almost, almost a
00:22:26
sign of guilt, First off, but second off, it's kind of like,
00:22:30
like you said, I can do whatever I want.
00:22:32
You're only after me because I'm black.
00:22:34
And, and all of these, you know, narratives, all these talking
00:22:38
points because of a few incidents that have been
00:22:42
glamorized. You've got people that are
00:22:45
criminals being statues made after George Floyd, things like
00:22:49
that. And people go, Oh, well, as long
00:22:51
as I play that card, I'm, I'm, I'm infallible, I'm invincible.
00:22:58
And that's, that's part of the issue.
00:23:01
And is the youth being taught that, the black youth being
00:23:05
taught, hey, I'm just going to play this card, which is what's
00:23:09
happened in a couple of the stories, which I swear we're
00:23:11
going to get to in a second. But, but I just wanted to talk
00:23:15
to you first as a, as a former police officer, you're giving me
00:23:19
an example of what you've dealt with.
00:23:21
But I'm sure you've seen it and I'm sure you've obviously heard
00:23:25
about all the events. I mean, God, that one here in
00:23:28
Dallas where cops were shot at and they're defending, where
00:23:33
they're defending a bunch of black people and they were being
00:23:36
shot at by anti cop protests and defund the police and all that
00:23:42
bullshit. So then you you did hit the nail
00:23:45
right on the head cuz some I. Do that, Drew.
00:23:48
Go ahead. Some of the most like, you know,
00:23:50
respectful, nice, warm people that I've ever encountered as a
00:23:55
police officer, security officer, have been black people.
00:23:57
And they're like, oh, no, man, you're just doing your job.
00:23:59
Or they're like, hey, you know, you know.
00:24:02
And so it's definitely a culture thing.
00:24:04
It's how you're raised, you know, where there's just so many
00:24:08
factors. But I'm glad you brought that up
00:24:09
because, you know, let me preface before we go into it
00:24:13
that and again, you know, some people laugh.
00:24:17
It's kind of like when white people say I have a black friend
00:24:19
and it happens, but I'm going to I'm, I'm being honest, like you
00:24:23
just were. There are people in my life over
00:24:25
the years that have that are black, that are the most
00:24:29
incredible people in the world. Me talking, us talking about
00:24:32
this doesn't diminish that. It doesn't take away from the
00:24:35
fact that all it does is prove my point, which is it's there.
00:24:44
What's statistically and there's a pattern there.
00:24:48
How can we help get more of our youth, our Black youth to
00:24:54
believe and to be that, to be those good people?
00:24:58
And it's just you can't argue with numbers to a point and you
00:25:02
can't argue with people's experiences.
00:25:05
Anyway, I'm just saying I just feel like I wanted to mirror
00:25:09
what you were saying, which is I've met some just incredible
00:25:12
people. So us doing this show in no way
00:25:15
represents me saying all black people are the issue.
00:25:19
Not at all. Not at all, but overall, as a
00:25:22
culture right now, when I see a person who killed another person
00:25:27
getting all the responses, which is, which are and and we're
00:25:33
going to go right into this in a minute, are are defending the
00:25:36
killer just because he's black. I guarantee you people are like,
00:25:42
you don't know. Come on.
00:25:43
I haven't seen one white person on social media defending this
00:25:47
kid at all. It's it's black people in there.
00:25:50
It's like they feel like that. They feel obligated.
00:25:53
Oh, I've seen some white. People.
00:25:55
Oh, you have. I haven't.
00:25:56
And, you know, they've been, you know, flying like on their
00:26:00
little profile, like the pride flag.
00:26:03
Well. That's yeah, that's different,
00:26:07
those people. So look, there are a lot of
00:26:09
white woke people that that are going to jump on this because
00:26:12
it's an opportunity to virtue signal.
00:26:15
And I hate virtue signaling. I think it's part of the problem
00:26:18
with the left, and I think it's why I became so outspoken for
00:26:23
not being left. Am I far right?
00:26:26
Absolutely not. Contrary to what a lot of
00:26:28
people, a lot of friends and a lot of followers of mine
00:26:32
believe, I'm not far right. I like Donald, I like what's
00:26:37
happening in the country. I like.
00:26:39
I cannot align with anything that is woke and anything that
00:26:43
is left right now. I mean, you're talking, you're
00:26:44
talking about AOC and Bernie being the the face of the give
00:26:48
me a break. I hope they are that's.
00:26:50
I hope they are 4. More years of.
00:26:52
And I didn't mean to get off on the, the political side of it,
00:26:54
but that becomes for some reason, I feel like this is
00:26:59
almost a political thing. I feel like you have white
00:27:02
liberals and black people and, and, and minorities who are like
00:27:07
self-defense. It's not, there's no part of
00:27:10
this that is self-defense at all.
00:27:12
And let's talk, let's talk about it.
00:27:14
I'm, I'm, I'm sitting here like talking around it.
00:27:16
Let's talk about the story real quick, Drew.
00:27:19
You know the story. Everybody probably knows the
00:27:21
story. But for anybody that doesn't,
00:27:23
there's a gentleman named Carmelo Anthony, a black 17 year
00:27:27
old student here local to us north of Dallas in Frisco.
00:27:32
This, this young man showed up to a track meet that was at a
00:27:38
neutral site. It was at a Frisco track, an
00:27:42
auditorium that was like that they all share.
00:27:45
Yeah, it was a district. District A track meet and he was
00:27:50
under the wrong tent, so these tents were placed there.
00:27:53
It was a rainy day for each different school.
00:27:56
He was under the wrong tent. Now he wasn't even on the track.
00:28:02
Me No, he wasn't, but of course neither neither was Austin and
00:28:05
and his brother apparently either.
00:28:07
And they were there and of course they were all their
00:28:09
supporting friends. I mean, I used to do that I'd go
00:28:11
to different sporting events that I wasn't involved in in
00:28:13
high school. It was a long time ago.
00:28:16
I guarantee you we would have just fought with our fists if I
00:28:21
was asked to move tents. But he was in the wrong tent.
00:28:25
And Austin Metcalf and his brother said, hey, dude, you're
00:28:30
in the wrong tent, please leave. And this is people can talk
00:28:35
about it being racial or whatever, but the bottom line is
00:28:38
that these tents are unoccupied a lot because the people are
00:28:41
competing. And so people that are there
00:28:43
from other schools have their belongings, have all this stuff.
00:28:46
So if there's somebody kind of and creeping around in another
00:28:50
tent, get out. There's belongings here.
00:28:54
Not that you're black, but anybody in the wrong tent.
00:28:59
School rivalry. School rivalry, right?
00:29:01
Sure. And so Carmelo Anthony, the
00:29:04
black 17 year old, looked over at at them and said no, I make
00:29:11
me leave. Touch me, I dare you.
00:29:14
See what happens. That's that's not debatable.
00:29:18
That's what happened. I know somebody that their their
00:29:21
kid was there and it's been in all their police reports.
00:29:25
Bottom line is as soon as you say something like that,
00:29:29
premeditated, in my opinion, see what happens is the key phrase.
00:29:33
What do you think of that? Do you think that that is enough
00:29:38
to say hey, premeditated or do you think that there needs to be
00:29:41
more? So there's something called a
00:29:43
qualifying statement, right? So say, you know, you have a, a
00:29:48
daughter, you know, 1617 and there's a guy I don't know,
00:29:53
40-40 years old, you know, trying to talk to her creep on
00:29:57
or whatever. And you say you step foot on my
00:30:00
property. Or if you say, if you step foot
00:30:02
on my property, I'm going to kill you.
00:30:03
And his parents was like, oh, he's threatening to me.
00:30:06
It's like, no, no, no, no, no. He says if, yeah, that's part of
00:30:09
the qualifying. So this kid saying, you know,
00:30:12
touch me, you know, see what happens.
00:30:13
So he left out a little bit of he, right.
00:30:17
I think, you know, it's just kind of a, you know, maybe kind
00:30:19
of a warning, but still, there's no reason.
00:30:22
You just OK? And it wasn't his property.
00:30:23
No, in your analogy, it wasn't his property, Right?
00:30:26
Right. Right.
00:30:27
But just say, oh, OK, sorry, there's no reason to have that
00:30:30
confrontation. Why not leave that?
00:30:33
I mean, that's my question and that's what most people, most
00:30:36
sane, rational people are saying.
00:30:39
Who cares? The guys came up and said, hey,
00:30:40
this is our tent. You're in the wrong tent.
00:30:43
Leave. Don't start none won't be none.
00:30:45
If you there you go. If you don't want conflict,
00:30:49
however, why did you bring a knife to the track meet?
00:30:52
Did you want conflict? Yes, that right there is a
00:30:55
little bit of OK, well, we don't know for sure, but man, it sure
00:30:58
looks shady. And and that's the problem.
00:31:01
There's nothing at all on this side of Carmelo Anthony that
00:31:03
says this wasn't on him. Leave the tent.
00:31:09
Nothing happens. Everybody's alive.
00:31:11
You're fine. I agree.
00:31:12
To me it seems simple and right. Yeah, obviously there's, you
00:31:17
know, a bunch of people, there's a bunch of witnesses, you know,
00:31:19
you know, I don't think these two guys are going to curb stomp
00:31:22
you, break every moment in your body, break your neck with all
00:31:25
these people around. No.
00:31:27
So and you know, why did you bring a knife?
00:31:29
That's obviously against district.
00:31:31
That's the point. You bought a knife, right?
00:31:35
What were you afraid of? Were you trying to spark
00:31:37
something? Were you trying to ignite a
00:31:39
conflict? You know, to finish the story
00:31:42
for people that some people that haven't heard it.
00:31:45
The bottom line is that the 2 twin brothers, the Metcalf
00:31:49
brothers, and some other friends that were around said get up,
00:31:51
please leave our tent. They might have been a little
00:31:54
more harsh than that. I'm not going to try and act
00:31:56
like they were Saints. They might have been like get
00:31:58
the fuck out of our tent still and Carmelo Anthony said touch
00:32:03
me see what happens. And I believe that Austin
00:32:06
grabbed him and tried to pull him out of the tent and he
00:32:09
reached into his backpack took a knife out and immediately
00:32:11
stabbed him once dropped a knife and ran.
00:32:13
That's the story. And when the cops showed up, I I
00:32:17
happened to have a a contact that knew the the kid that
00:32:21
called 911 and chased Carmelo. So I have a witness.
00:32:25
Brave. It's brave.
00:32:27
And I have a witness. So people are like, this is what
00:32:29
happened. No, no, I, I know more than you.
00:32:33
Not you, but more than you, you general.
00:32:35
And the cops got there. And of course everybody's heard
00:32:39
that. Carmelo looked at the cops and
00:32:41
said, hey, I did it. I'm not.
00:32:43
The cop called in and he said the alleged, whatever he was,
00:32:46
it's not alleged I did it. He admitted to it.
00:32:48
He said, do you think I can get off on self-defense?
00:32:51
So right there, I mean, you're, you're saying everything you
00:32:53
need to say. We know that you did it.
00:32:55
We know whatever I think. No, you can't get off on
00:32:57
self-defense. There's nothing about this that
00:33:00
threatened your life. Nobody was on top of you choking
00:33:05
you. Nobody.
00:33:05
There wasn't six guys beating you.
00:33:07
It wasn't anything. Plus, you brought the knife,
00:33:10
right? It's premeditated.
00:33:12
What are your thoughts? Knowing more than I do about
00:33:15
law, SO and and law enforcement. You know, a lot of people think
00:33:19
you know if someone's, you know if someone's on top of you, you
00:33:24
know, beating you up. But you know, when you crack
00:33:26
them in the head with a bottle, you know, you can be charged,
00:33:30
you know, potentially with AG assault because you know, it's
00:33:35
people see it in the movies and in the TV show.
00:33:38
Oh, self-defense. You know, anytime there's a
00:33:41
incident with force or violence, you can get charged.
00:33:45
It's all going to depend on the circumstances, on the culpable
00:33:49
mental state. You know, I, I'm going to pay
00:33:55
close attention to the trial because I'm sure, I'm sure
00:33:58
there's some details that is going to come out more maybe.
00:34:02
You know, again, I'm not. I don't.
00:34:04
Know, I mean I don't know what other details details there
00:34:07
could be. I I don't.
00:34:08
Know, but I mean, I'm willing to listen, don't get me wrong, but
00:34:14
it seems pretty obvious I mean to cut you off well.
00:34:19
You're good. If I'd come over there and just,
00:34:20
you know, start hitting you and you crack me in the head with,
00:34:24
you know, a monitor and I fall down and, you know, break my
00:34:27
neck. You know, the cops and the DA
00:34:30
are going to have to be like, OK, what, you know, what
00:34:34
happened it. It's all just going to depend on
00:34:38
the circumstances. Right, let's discuss the
00:34:43
community response, which is my biggest reason 37 minutes into
00:34:49
the show as to why I'm talking about this, right?
00:34:53
The community response, according to what I've seen has
00:34:56
been it's really crazy. There is so much defense of the
00:35:01
killer and there's so much not glorifying it, but just
00:35:07
condoning it. Condoning it.
00:35:09
Hey, he self-defense, you know, he did what he had to do.
00:35:13
Really. No, no.
00:35:16
And that's not how I see it and that's not how any normal person
00:35:18
sees it. And I just feel like I just I'm
00:35:21
I'm avoiding it. I hate to say it but every
00:35:24
single person I've seen defend this is black and it's like they
00:35:27
feel like they have to defend one of their own or.
00:35:31
Be called an Uncle Tom. Or be called or be called an
00:35:34
Uncle Tom. And there are a few black
00:35:37
influencers that I've seen and I'll plug them.
00:35:40
Officer Tatum, the Hodge Hodge something twins that are great,
00:35:45
Terrence Williams, who's a who's a comedian, who's really funny
00:35:48
and these guys are all condemning it and they're
00:35:51
saying, no, we don't want this image.
00:35:54
We don't want all this yet everybody I see, I mean, I've
00:35:58
seen some disgusting comments, Drew.
00:36:00
I've seen *** wants to play, you know, and and talking about
00:36:05
Austin. How dare he?
00:36:06
And he found out. This whole fucker fuck around
00:36:09
and find out or whatever. Oh, I've heard that too.
00:36:12
That's bullshit. And I just don't understand.
00:36:15
It's cowardly. Are you proud that that's what
00:36:17
you had to resort to? And I find myself getting
00:36:20
frustrated by it because if you're telling your youth that
00:36:25
killing is OK, this isn't going to change.
00:36:29
The statistics aren't going to change.
00:36:31
The urban violence isn't going to change.
00:36:34
This time it was against you killed a white kid.
00:36:37
So I guess you guys are OK with that.
00:36:40
But every day more people that die are actually black on black.
00:36:45
But no one wants to talk. No everyone because I'm racist.
00:36:49
No, it's just fact. It's statistics, right?
00:36:53
Am I? Am I?
00:36:53
Wrong. No, no, you're.
00:36:55
So what do you think about the response to this incident and
00:37:00
the the cultural the cultural response?
00:37:02
I think absolutely disgusting. You know, people are sitting
00:37:06
here trying to raise, you know, all this, all this money and
00:37:11
it's like, OK, part of me gets it.
00:37:14
You know, parents have to, you know, love their kids
00:37:17
unconditionally and maybe they want a lawyer, but you know,
00:37:22
they're maybe have to to raise money for it.
00:37:24
But all these people, like you said, being, you know, vocal and
00:37:29
supporting of his actions. I can't condone his actions.
00:37:33
I won't condone his actions, even if it's even if it's on the
00:37:36
other foot. You know, white kid killing the
00:37:38
black kid killing isn't OK period.
00:37:42
Especially our youth. OK, I'm sorry self-defense, but
00:37:46
it's different. I'm saying in this in this
00:37:47
situation, it was totally unnecessary to just completely
00:37:54
stupid and for anyone to even say oh hey, you know, fuck
00:37:58
around and find out. Oh good for you.
00:38:00
I I saw someone. Leave the tent or don't.
00:38:04
Or don't bring a knife. Like anyway, go ahead.
00:38:07
No, I I think I saw saw someone putting Tupac lyrics on and it's
00:38:13
just like no, stop glorifying. But that may be a part of the
00:38:18
problem is is the the music, the lyrics.
00:38:21
And I hate to be that guy. Our youth is listening to rap.
00:38:25
Music. Oh, I don't like this.
00:38:26
Video games and blah blah blah. But there may be some truth
00:38:29
there. Because finally I'm going, maybe
00:38:32
there's some truth there. The lyrics to some of these
00:38:35
songs. It's almost like, again, it's
00:38:38
condoning. It's like, oh, yeah, this is
00:38:39
what you do to respond. People are killing each other.
00:38:44
The rappers, all, you know, back in the day, East Coast, West
00:38:48
Coast, let's kill each other. I mean, Biggie Smalls, what are
00:38:51
you teaching? There you go.
00:38:52
Right. Biggie Smalls and Tupac.
00:38:53
Was that the big thing, the rivals?
00:38:56
I don't know. I'm such a I'm a white boy.
00:38:59
I admit I was in a grunge. Do you know?
00:39:04
No. It was.
00:39:05
Biggie. Biggie was the one that died,
00:39:07
right? And then who shot him?
00:39:08
I. Don't remember who, I don't
00:39:10
remember who shot Tupac. Who gives a shot?
00:39:12
We're not still 100%. We're not sure on.
00:39:15
Tupac. But there we go.
00:39:16
This is a cultural thing and are we OK with it?
00:39:20
If it was just entertainment and everybody was an adult and OK,
00:39:23
whatever, fine. And it was almost like a almost
00:39:26
like a reality show, fine. But our youth people, I mean
00:39:29
kids, young kids are looking to this going, hey, that's cool,
00:39:34
you know, and that's the problem.
00:39:37
So let's, let's quickly, I mean, just for time's sake, true.
00:39:41
I, I could sit here and you and I could talk for six hours, but
00:39:44
let's go to the next story, which just happened 2 days ago
00:39:48
here in Dallas. So we're using local stories.
00:39:51
And you know, if people want to give me shit about it and say,
00:39:53
oh, that's fine. Find another show.
00:39:55
Find another show. But but I'm telling you that
00:39:59
this is hitting home. And it's if it's here in
00:40:04
multiple cases, then it's everywhere, probably in multiple
00:40:07
cases. But this was a school that had a
00:40:13
a shooting a year ago, the same school almost to the day, right?
00:40:19
And they implemented security metal detectors and doors lock
00:40:25
from the outside. And they had a clear backpack
00:40:30
rule. So every backpack's like
00:40:32
completely like you're going to a stadium.
00:40:35
And apparently 2 days ago, Wilmer Hutchins and it's South
00:40:40
of Dallas and it is 99% minority.
00:40:47
And again, did you hear my hesitation?
00:40:50
The hesitation was because everyone's going to go, wow,
00:40:53
you're blaming, yes, I'm, I'm starting to do that because the
00:40:57
statistics are there. Statistics don't.
00:40:59
Lie 99% minority twice in two years or twice in a year almost
00:41:04
a little over a year. This is something we need to
00:41:07
it's a pattern and we have to address it So what happened was
00:41:11
you know would you like to do this story?
00:41:13
I feel like I've talked too much.
00:41:15
Go ahead, it's simple. Some another student, which I
00:41:18
think that's another topic I think should be held just as
00:41:23
liable, not maybe just as but pretty close.
00:41:25
Accessory. They're talking about, oh,
00:41:28
they're administrative penalties, like a suspension.
00:41:32
Anyway, let me tell everybody what it is so that there's
00:41:36
somebody in the school that pushed open a side door that was
00:41:40
locked from the outside and allowed this quote UN quote
00:41:43
assailant to come in without telling you the rest of the
00:41:46
story. In my opinion, that person that
00:41:47
opened the door, would you call him accessory?
00:41:50
There you go. So this not the one that opened
00:41:53
the door, but the one that came in, went over to a group of
00:41:55
students and opened fire. Four of them.
00:41:58
Four of them. He was looking, apparently for
00:42:01
what I got today was it was premeditated.
00:42:04
There wasn't some. Let me just go in and shoot.
00:42:07
He was looking for one person, probably over a check, probably
00:42:11
fight over some something stupid.
00:42:13
That's the stupidest thing to fight.
00:42:14
Over, of course. Well, we know that it could have
00:42:18
been over anything. But he came in and somebody let
00:42:21
him in and he walked right up and immediately started firing.
00:42:24
And then there was one person that couldn't run.
00:42:26
They were backed in the corner and he opened fire.
00:42:29
Miraculously enough, miraculously, none of them died.
00:42:35
By the grace of God. I don't know how either.
00:42:37
This guy's a fucking horrible shot.
00:42:40
Or it hasn't released what caliber he was.
00:42:42
Yeah. And he could have been, I mean,
00:42:43
who knows what it was, But the bottom line is he came in and he
00:42:46
opened fire. And again, to me, that's signals
00:42:49
response to something that happened out conflict that
00:42:52
happened outside the school. So he came in and did that and
00:42:56
blah, blah, blah. And then of course he ran.
00:42:57
And the funny part of this, nothing's funny, but whatever
00:43:02
word you want to use here is that he, he hailed a ride from
00:43:06
somebody. They picked him up and he's
00:43:08
like, I just need to get to my, you know, dad's shop or my, my
00:43:12
dad's car shop until he took him and he, and eventually he goes,
00:43:15
actually, I need to go over here.
00:43:17
And he showed him the address and the guy's like, that's
00:43:19
fucking like 50 miles away. I'm not going there.
00:43:23
He dropped him off, another person picked him up and
00:43:26
apparently he took he like hitched over.
00:43:28
Leapfrog. Leapfrog and to get to wherever.
00:43:31
And finally, I think somebody said, hey, you probably should
00:43:35
turn yourself in. And he turned himself in at that
00:43:37
night at 9:00. And again, it's why would I want
00:43:46
my child around this? Even if I don't have children,
00:43:51
why do I care? Why am I so adamant about
00:43:55
helping the youth when their own role models and parents and
00:44:02
teachers and whatever aren't condemning it?
00:44:05
That's the next story, so go ahead.
00:44:07
So I'm going to let Drew talk, I promise.
00:44:11
So why do you think it's happening?
00:44:13
Is it broken families? Is it social media, gang
00:44:16
culture? I wrote my notes.
00:44:18
People calm down. Devaluing human life.
00:44:21
So what schools and parent, what can they do before something
00:44:27
like this? And is it a cultural thing?
00:44:32
You can be completely honest. I'm sorry you're riding on the
00:44:35
bus. Right now, let's do it.
00:44:38
It's not maybe necessarily it's a variable, OK, we're not going
00:44:43
to be able to point at each specific thing.
00:44:47
It's, you know, almost sometimes case by case basis.
00:44:51
Now there's more of majority for certain situations.
00:44:54
You know, if we take broken homes, you know, if there's a,
00:44:58
you got, you know, a young kid, white, black, it doesn't matter.
00:45:02
Could you know, if it's a black kid where his dad's not around,
00:45:05
doesn't have a male role model. And so psychologists have
00:45:10
pointed that, you know, that's very detrimental, not having a
00:45:13
real male role model because you latch on to almost whatever you
00:45:18
can. Yeah, that's not overplayed.
00:45:20
I I'm, I'm with you. I mean, I'm having a male role
00:45:23
model. People are like, yeah, it's,
00:45:24
it's just that's a talking point.
00:45:25
I don't think it is, no. You got to have someone to keep
00:45:28
you true, teach you consequences like hey, this isn't this isn't
00:45:32
real, this isn't right. And there's a lot of criminal
00:45:35
activity, gangs, everything they look or those kind of people
00:45:39
that they can manipulate and so you.
00:45:42
Know so you don't think that women can offer that same
00:45:45
lesson? It's a tough one.
00:45:48
I threw you right around riding on the bus.
00:45:50
I I, I think it, it takes men. To men, to.
00:45:52
For. For males, Yeah.
00:45:54
It's, you know, I'd like to believe that, you know, look,
00:45:57
you know, another stereotype in a good way is the love that a
00:46:01
lot of black men have for their moms.
00:46:03
Oh yeah. That's a that's a good
00:46:05
stereotype. And however, right, I don't
00:46:11
think that some of the intensity, some of the lessons
00:46:15
about life and this kind of stuff can be, I mean, I don't I
00:46:20
don't think it can be given by by their mom, but right, Is that
00:46:25
what No. I, I agree 100%.
00:46:27
You know, it takes a man to raise a man and you know, and.
00:46:31
I don't want a lot of black women to get mad at me for
00:46:33
saying that, that that's not a slight at all.
00:46:37
The the intensity for which you love your, your sons is not lost
00:46:42
on me. I think it's incredible,
00:46:45
honestly. And there's, you know, some
00:46:48
single mother black women that have raised, you know, sons by
00:46:54
themselves. And those sons have gone on to
00:46:56
be just like top 10% of society kind of people, but that's not
00:47:03
the norm. And then there's some guys who's
00:47:05
father was in their life. They had, you know, a loving
00:47:08
mother and father, you know, we talked about the broken home.
00:47:11
You know, we can talk about some kids grew up with a loving
00:47:14
father, loving mother, but they were influenced by, you know,
00:47:20
outside situations, whether gang or, you know, they just, I don't
00:47:26
want to say mentally something, something wrong.
00:47:29
But you know, sometimes kids have more aggression or more,
00:47:36
you know, whether it's psychopathy or, you know,
00:47:40
there's just, I want a case study on this.
00:47:43
That's what, you know, I want 'cause I, I can speak from what
00:47:46
I think, but you know, I want statistics.
00:47:49
Statistics don't lie. If we can get a little bit more
00:47:52
statistics on this, but you know, rap music.
00:47:55
Yeah, people don't like to hear that.
00:47:56
They don't like to hear statistics.
00:47:59
This. The numbers say this and they
00:48:01
get all. They don't like being called
00:48:03
out. Right they don't like the facts
00:48:05
being used against them when there's false narratives to be
00:48:10
used in my opinion, just for like a time Drew, we get a roll
00:48:15
here. They have so much to get to and
00:48:17
I I feel like we're almost we got to stop here soon.
00:48:20
I think that acknowledging the divide is both good and bad.
00:48:27
And I think that I'm going to say it now so that people can't
00:48:33
come at me about this. And I think I mentioned this to
00:48:35
you earlier. I'm going to acknowledge right
00:48:37
now that most mass shooters are white.
00:48:42
So I'm not just coming down on black kids and black culture
00:48:47
culture and, and, and criminals. I'm fully aware that there that
00:48:53
there's an issue and that the mass shooters tend to be white.
00:48:56
The the issue in that in the numbers say those mass shooters,
00:49:03
although they get under the microscope are are few and far
00:49:07
between when it comes to day-to-day crime like what we're
00:49:14
talking about knife, gun violence, basic violence, black
00:49:18
on black crime is the big one. And here I am here we are
00:49:22
sitting here talking about it. Why aren't they?
00:49:24
Well, because it's not newsworthy.
00:49:27
You know, I'm sure there could be, you know, black on black,
00:49:31
you know, that could have there could have been three kids that
00:49:34
died in Dallas in one day. But you know, news what don't
00:49:39
want to put it out, whether it's disrupting a certain narrative
00:49:44
that they're trying to shape or they just don't want, they don't
00:49:49
think it's newsworthy, but I think they don't want to put out
00:49:54
the on black violence. Well, does that response in a in
00:49:58
a sense fuel the cycle? It does.
00:50:01
It fuels this, this cycle of of again, not entitlement, but this
00:50:06
like if someone a disc culture, if someone disrespects me, I'm
00:50:10
going to fucking kill him. And that's like a tough guy
00:50:14
talk, right? And you see it in movies.
00:50:17
You're a movie guy. Oh yeah, I might have to bring
00:50:22
you back for just a show about film, because I would love it,
00:50:28
but I'm not, I'm not quite as into it as you.
00:50:30
Well, I. Mean not to get off, you know
00:50:32
the beating path, you know a whole lot.
00:50:33
But I went to school with a few, you know, black kids and.
00:50:40
You have a black friend? No, I've actually I have several
00:50:43
but. That's what they they like to
00:50:45
tell us. You're going to talk about I
00:50:47
have a black. Friend.
00:50:48
No, man, three guys I went to the police with probably the
00:50:53
coolest guys ever, black guys that they were awesome.
00:50:57
But no, I went and I had heard two kids, you know, from my high
00:51:01
school. They were black.
00:51:02
And I don't know if it was just, you know, teenage bravado, but
00:51:07
they were like, you know, yeah, my people were slaves.
00:51:10
So we should be able to get away with, do anything we want.
00:51:12
And it's like you weren't a slave, your grandparents wasn't
00:51:16
a your grandparent wasn't a slave.
00:51:17
Your great grandparent won a slave like.
00:51:19
Keep going and maybe it'll eventually get there and then we
00:51:22
don't even know. That's the easiest argument from
00:51:24
the white side of things. And I get that.
00:51:28
And I'm trying to play devil's advocate here.
00:51:30
And in a sense, I understand that what that did was cause
00:51:36
systemic racism and it caused this.
00:51:40
You know, there was a, you know, lots of of research that's been
00:51:44
done about keeping black people down.
00:51:46
The government tried to, you know what all that in the 60s
00:51:50
and 70s and that's, that was changed.
00:51:52
That was all supposed to be fixed.
00:51:55
And all I know is in the last 50 years, even though there have
00:52:00
been, there's, there's plenty of prejudice, plenty of racism.
00:52:03
And I'm not going to lie to you, these types of things don't
00:52:06
help, no. They fuel.
00:52:08
They fuel it. And that's my point is like, I
00:52:11
want to help and you're not helping me to help.
00:52:15
You're like you're making it very difficult by condoning it.
00:52:19
And so my issue is that if you get to the point where now in
00:52:24
2025 you've had every opportunity, there are programs,
00:52:29
there is affirmative action, There are all these things,
00:52:32
hundreds of programs. I say affirmative action because
00:52:36
that's the most known, but there are hundreds of programs to
00:52:40
inspire opportunity and it hasn't been taken advantage of.
00:52:44
It's almost hard not to get, you know, the advantage as long as,
00:52:48
you know, you're on the, you know, straight and narrow path.
00:52:51
But some people just, I don't know, like, I really want to get
00:52:57
some data. Even if, you know, we somehow
00:53:00
have to, you know, do it ourselves, take polls.
00:53:02
But some people, you know, they're just born aggressive or
00:53:07
some kids, you know, see such, you know, horrible stuff so
00:53:11
young. They just grow up mad at the
00:53:12
world and just, you know, just a cycle.
00:53:16
Sometimes if a kid, his only role model in life, you know,
00:53:21
was a criminal and there's sometimes people, you know,
00:53:26
screw up and become criminals, you know, from a bad, from like
00:53:30
1 bad decision and get down that life.
00:53:33
There's just so many it it's not a specific box that there's
00:53:39
several different kegs that all go into the wheel.
00:53:43
I like that and it's good. It makes sense, but I feel like
00:53:49
I feel like we're not able to call it out without being
00:53:52
accused of whatever. Oh, I'm, I'm sure people.
00:53:56
Are going to and that's the issue is that I mean, while
00:53:58
you're while you're saying that I'm sitting here like, man, all
00:54:00
the things we've said in the back of my head, I'm going and
00:54:04
it shouldn't be that way. Freedom of speech.
00:54:08
Well, freedom of speech, but it should be a, you know, these
00:54:11
guys are sitting here talking about this.
00:54:13
They're 2 white boys. Fair enough.
00:54:15
Call me whatever coming cracker. We'd like mayonnaise, right?
00:54:20
White boys. And I'm fine with that.
00:54:23
But we all have to live together.
00:54:26
We all have to coexist, which is the bumper sticker that so many
00:54:29
of these folks like to put on their car.
00:54:32
We have to coexist. And so I'm justified.
00:54:36
You are justified in sitting here going these stories.
00:54:39
What the fuck is going on? I have children that I don't
00:54:44
want to be around your children because of this.
00:54:48
And the numbers back me, the statistics back me.
00:54:51
But we have wonderful experiences with with Black
00:54:55
people. But why is the culture so
00:54:59
overall willing to defend when it comes to black on white?
00:55:03
I mean, I get what do you think. Here's a good question is we
00:55:07
need to move on. What's it what do you think of
00:55:09
Austin Metcalf? The person that died was black
00:55:12
and it was black on black. I don't think people would be
00:55:16
scrambling to. Would it be a news story at all?
00:55:19
It would probably just because it was a on district in Frisco.
00:55:23
Sure, Frisco, you know, Yeah. But there wouldn't be a, you
00:55:26
know, GoFundMe with, you know, all the.
00:55:29
Who would they choose exactly? That's the point is instead of
00:55:33
looking at it like kid A killed kid B, Kid A is guilty.
00:55:40
It's well, oh, kid A is black. OK, I need to go with kid A and
00:55:44
that's that's that's an issue. And people say the following
00:55:48
Ryan, if kid A was white and kid B was black, how would you act?
00:55:56
Don't even tell me that because I would fucking tell that kid a
00:55:59
white boy to get in jail. You do not kill in response no
00:56:04
matter what. And that's the difference.
00:56:07
Drew, am I wrong? No, you're not wrong.
00:56:09
Someone kills someone, they need to be held accountable, white or
00:56:12
black, for their actions. White, Black, Hispanic, Asian.
00:56:18
Yes, if Carmelo Anthony was white and he killed Austin
00:56:22
Metcalf, who is black, in the same exact situation, I would be
00:56:26
on Austin Metcalf's side as the black, not even the black as the
00:56:31
person who was killed, right? What if you know Carmelo stabbed
00:56:37
a white girl instead of a white male?
00:56:41
Would people still be jumping? Well, that's true.
00:56:43
Maybe you get a little more sympathy on that side, but it's
00:56:45
just it's it's beyond me that there's this vindicate that's my
00:56:53
patented. The bottom line is that if the
00:56:57
roles were reversed and the exact same scenario played out,
00:57:01
this would be a whole different conversation for because we'd be
00:57:05
going, oh, why are they, you know, of course they're building
00:57:09
a statue for Austin Metcalf as a black man, you know what I mean?
00:57:14
And I don't, I don't whatever, move on.
00:57:18
Real quick solutions tell me yes or no parenting accountability
00:57:23
that needs to happen. Absolutely.
00:57:24
OK Holding influencers and celebrities responsible for
00:57:28
their messaging. That's a tough one.
00:57:31
No, no, that's not. You don't think that has
00:57:34
anything to do with? It we're here expressing our
00:57:36
opinions. We're technically influenced.
00:57:38
And and doing what we do, you know, no.
00:57:41
But nobody should be held accountable.
00:57:43
You see you, you're like, OK, you can go wherever and get
00:57:46
whatever info. What do you mean?
00:57:48
I'm just saying if there's an influencer out there that's
00:57:50
that's condoning murder. I don't think they should be
00:57:53
inciting anything. But there you go.
00:57:54
Should be able to, you know, give their give.
00:57:56
Their opinion. Got it.
00:57:58
Cutting off financial support for the violent offenders Seems
00:58:02
obvious to me. Yeah, teaching kids how to
00:58:05
resolve conflict without weapons.
00:58:08
There you go. That's that's it, right?
00:58:11
That's 100% but. When I was a kid, nobody had a
00:58:14
gun or a knife in their fucking backpack.
00:58:16
Are you kidding me? Oh, you know, in my dad's day,
00:58:18
kids used to take their, you know, rifles to school.
00:58:22
Sure, you know, for and, but, you know, like I'd said way back
00:58:26
in my first episode I was on it's, it's the culture.
00:58:29
It's systemic of fear of violence of the ego, you know,
00:58:38
Oh, I'm, I'm the baddest dude. No one's going to mess with me.
00:58:40
If you throw that in with life has been so hard on me.
00:58:44
I'm not accountable for my actions and throw in maybe I
00:58:49
don't know, an obsession with gangsta rap or something.
00:58:52
It's, you know, all a perfect storm.
00:58:56
And then there could be a situation where none of those
00:58:58
three things are present. It all, It's all different.
00:59:02
But it all comes down to violence is not good.
00:59:06
I. Mean right.
00:59:07
It's the bottom line. People need Jesus.
00:59:10
OK. Oh, you're going to go there.
00:59:12
OK, go there. I.
00:59:13
Will go there. Talk about I'm going to throw it
00:59:16
in the bus again. You ready?
00:59:18
Talk about law enforcement's role without defaulting to over
00:59:23
policing, whatever the fuck that means.
00:59:25
Do you understand what that question means?
00:59:27
Yeah. You know, everyone always says,
00:59:29
oh, you got to treat people, you know, the same across the board.
00:59:33
It's like, well, you know, no, I don't.
00:59:35
If I see walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
00:59:39
You have to figure out, you know, each, each situation.
00:59:45
Now, am I going to be courteous and respectful the way I talk to
00:59:49
everybody who's, you know, just regular making contact with
00:59:55
someone? Yeah, if and if you know law
00:59:58
enforcement's, you know, you make a traffic stop, you get
01:00:01
into your, you know, rhythm and you say your name and you were
01:00:04
if I could keep going with this. It all, it all, it all depends.
01:00:10
It all depends on what they do, OK.
01:00:12
They change lane without signalling and run a stop sign.
01:00:16
You know, I don't care if you're white, black, Hispanic, if all
01:00:20
depends on like what you do if you stop right when I pull you
01:00:24
over or you keep going if you keep going.
01:00:28
You know, obviously you think either, hey, they're trying to
01:00:30
get away or they're just ignorant of it and you got to
01:00:34
make that split decision. And then you, if you go up there
01:00:38
and they, you know, are 100% like I am, you know, I'm so
01:00:44
sorry. Yes, I, I did that, you know, I,
01:00:48
I deserve it. You know, that's, that's one
01:00:50
thing. And then on the flip side, you
01:00:53
know, oh, I don't answer. I don't answer the questions,
01:00:54
you know, why'd you stop me at that point?
01:00:58
But if they get into that mode before you even make contact,
01:01:02
that changes how you talk. That changes, that changes a lot
01:01:05
of things. So it's it just all depends.
01:01:10
It it all depends. Yeah.
01:01:14
I mean, it's, that's why I mean, I wanted to do a show like this.
01:01:17
I don't, I don't want to have somebody on that, that they had
01:01:21
the same opinion as I did but but had more experience with
01:01:25
law. And some people say, oh, you
01:01:28
can't, you know, don't provoke the community.
01:01:32
Don't. It's like.
01:01:34
What does that even mean? Exactly.
01:01:36
And it depends if you're in a big department, you know, maybe
01:01:42
something like Plano Frisco, where, you know, you have
01:01:46
different police chiefs that are, you know, trying to get re
01:01:50
elected or the sheriff's trying to get re elected.
01:01:52
And then you have, you know, smaller departments.
01:01:54
It it all, it all depends. And I, I know I keep saying
01:01:59
that, but that's there's a certain level of someone says
01:02:06
something, it's like, well, it depends.
01:02:07
So it's like, hey, you get in a gunfight, are you going to shoot
01:02:10
this guy? Depends.
01:02:13
No, this is good stuff. I feel like as we wind up here,
01:02:19
let's focus real quick as we end on on the point of the show,
01:02:25
which was the cultural response to altercations.
01:02:32
These two stories were two black you, I mean 17 year olds.
01:02:39
You can call them young men. You can call them men.
01:02:42
Even in this state, in Texas, they're going to be trying.
01:02:45
To men. But there's still technically,
01:02:48
you know, technically not adults or kids, whatever.
01:02:52
And I think that for me, before we end, I just, I just don't get
01:02:59
the defence of crime. And the second story is too
01:03:06
early to we haven't heard anything.
01:03:08
I'd love to hear how somebody defends this guy comes in the
01:03:11
side door and starts shooting. There's no defence and, and
01:03:15
whatever, it was just another example and it happened to come
01:03:18
out right before we did the show.
01:03:20
But with the Carmelo Anthony story, it's divided.
01:03:26
But why is it divided? And that's my biggest question
01:03:30
is how can everybody, let's say 99%, they're going to be, you
01:03:34
know, I'm just going to be the fucking idiots over here that
01:03:37
say self-defense. But it's more than just a few
01:03:41
over here. Why is it divided?
01:03:45
Is it completely racial? Is it cultural combined with
01:03:50
racial? Is it what?
01:03:51
What is it? I think it's going to be a mix
01:03:53
of racial, cultural ignorance and, you know, the, I don't
01:04:01
know, I don't want to say tribalism because that's, you
01:04:05
know, negative. Connotation.
01:04:07
We, we hate to say it, but I mean there, come on, there's a
01:04:10
little bit of that. Yeah.
01:04:11
If we say that, everybody looks at us and says, dare you say
01:04:15
that? You can't say that word.
01:04:16
It's like I'm pretty sure I can say anywhere in.
01:04:19
The well say anywhere in the but it but it but there's there's a
01:04:22
truth to it. I mean, look again, didn't you
01:04:26
say earlier if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and if
01:04:29
you're exhibiting behavior that's.
01:04:32
Also, mob mentality. If someone's like, hey, you
01:04:35
know, why aren't you giving, giving money to this kid?
01:04:38
Or why don't you think Carmelo's innocent?
01:04:39
Oh, you must be an Uncle Tom. Yeah, you know, you must hate.
01:04:42
You must hate your own race. There's divide and until.
01:04:45
And there shouldn't be. This is.
01:04:48
On this story, there shouldn't be for sure.
01:04:49
No, take take the facts and judge him based on the facts.
01:04:55
You can't have you can't look at a situation through emotional
01:05:00
eyes. It's the fact.
01:05:02
It's the law. It is what it is.
01:05:04
You can't. Oh, he, he, he never heard
01:05:06
nobody till he did this. Well, he did it.
01:05:08
I'm sorry. Right, here's how I'll end it.
01:05:13
I just lost my train of thought. Fuck.
01:05:15
You know, innocent and you know, this is America and innocent
01:05:18
until proven guilty. We have these facts, but just
01:05:23
the facts that I've seen, you can kind of say it's a duck, but
01:05:30
you know, I don't want no violence.
01:05:34
No one should drop their kid off and wonder if their kid is going
01:05:38
to get hurt or, you know, wonder if someone's going to get mugged
01:05:42
just. Yeah, I don't, I don't
01:05:44
understand why. People need Christ.
01:05:46
Black parents and black leaders and, and I don't know why they
01:05:51
want this to be representative of the culture.
01:05:56
If a black kid in in school with my children had a sleepover,
01:06:03
you, you better know that every single person that's not black
01:06:05
is going. And probably people that are
01:06:07
black are going, Let's, let's vet this, let's make sure it's
01:06:13
OK and let's figure it out. And that sucks.
01:06:16
There's a reason for that and it's not, it's not racism, it's,
01:06:21
it's just statistics, it's numbers, It's, it's what we,
01:06:24
we're seeing in these stories, right?
01:06:28
Am I, I mean, am I being, if that turns people off, then fuck
01:06:31
them. I don't know.
01:06:32
So that was it. I just wanted to touch on that
01:06:34
before we before we wrapped up, which was I am baffled by the
01:06:42
outreach of support and money given to a killer.
01:06:47
You cannot justify what he did in the Carmelo Anthony case.
01:06:52
You just can't. So the purpose of the show was,
01:06:56
I don't know, whatever. I'm not like I'm going to change
01:06:58
somebody's mind, but you. You never know.
01:07:01
We never know. We have to put ourselves out
01:07:04
there and talk our opinions and try and educate people for sure.
01:07:09
Otherwise the cycle's not going to stop.
01:07:11
We have to well. I'm glad you said the cycle.
01:07:14
In my opinion, it can't be us. It's got to be black people.
01:07:18
It's got to be them saying no more.
01:07:21
And there are a few. I mean, again, I think I've
01:07:24
mentioned Officer Tatum, who's great.
01:07:27
The Hodge, I forget the name, forgive me, guys.
01:07:30
Hodgkins twins or something like that.
01:07:33
A couple of black guys. Terrence Williams, a comedian.
01:07:36
There's some others that have come out and saying this guys,
01:07:39
this is making us, you're embarrassing our entire culture.
01:07:42
Wasn't there a pastor that? Pastor, you heard this.
01:07:45
I I didn't. You told me this.
01:07:47
Earlier there was a, there was a pastor and you know, sorry, not
01:07:50
having all the facts or anything.
01:07:52
I no, just that's, that's what we do on the show, Drew.
01:07:54
It's, you know, maybe, maybe the boys let it in.
01:07:58
Yeah, but. Do your own research.
01:08:00
Yeah, there was a pastor that came out and made like a big
01:08:03
long apology for, I believe it was for the black community.
01:08:08
I could be wrong, but that's what I remember seeing as the
01:08:12
story. It's few and far between, but it
01:08:14
it's out there. Fortunately, thank goodness, at
01:08:17
least there's something where people that have a platform are
01:08:21
saying, hey, look. And again, man, I'm not trying
01:08:24
to, you know, beat the Bible or anything like that, but I
01:08:28
genuinely believe, you know, if we all follow Christ and live in
01:08:35
God's peace, then there is no violence.
01:08:37
There is no, I mean, naturally there's always going to be
01:08:39
violence. There's it's I don't know.
01:08:41
Well, and, and a lot of, I mean, some of the most quote UN quote
01:08:45
Christian religious people are the black, you know, the
01:08:48
churches and all that. And that's the stereotype and
01:08:51
come at me if you want, but that word has not been spread down
01:08:56
adequately to the youth because I don't think they'd be behaving
01:09:01
this way if they truly believe that in their hearts.
01:09:04
Tell me if I'm wrong. And so I just feel like and will
01:09:08
end here. I just feel like I feel like you
01:09:11
and I could talk about this for a long time.
01:09:14
What I'd like to do is have you back and have have somebody
01:09:16
here. And I have a couple of people in
01:09:18
mind that that are black and they can maybe.
01:09:24
Dialogue. Well, they can have dialogue,
01:09:26
but they can open the door to what it is that we're assuming,
01:09:31
which is that the culture, the cultural belief system is like,
01:09:36
hey, this is OK. And I can't imagine that it's
01:09:38
everybody. And that's what sucks is that
01:09:41
there are black families out there that are just like, Oh my
01:09:45
God, Like we're we're getting, we're going to get looked at
01:09:48
like this because of this. But instead of speaking out, I
01:09:52
mean, nobody is. I haven't, I haven't heard
01:09:54
anything. And if you if if they are to
01:09:57
their friends and the people at the bar and whatever, great,
01:10:00
good to keep doing it. But nobody of any kind of known
01:10:06
that has a platform as I mean, besides a few, like I said, you
01:10:10
know, Terrence Williams. I hear the stay in the Gray guy
01:10:14
is. Really.
01:10:14
That's right. I'm trying my best to stay.
01:10:17
But you know, Drew, I can tell you I'm going to get called all
01:10:20
sorts of shit for this, for this episode.
01:10:23
I hope you don't. I'll I'll free you and say that
01:10:26
this was my episode. Everybody leave.
01:10:28
No, I mean, I made my own decision to come on.
01:10:33
And talk about this. Exactly, I'm responsible for my
01:10:36
actions. It's a tough show.
01:10:37
And I did. I did a show not long ago about
01:10:41
the Carmelo Anthony story. And this was right when it
01:10:43
happened. And it was just a quick thing
01:10:46
with me saying, look, are we, is anybody, are we really defending
01:10:50
murder? Let's talk about if there's a
01:10:53
racial issue, let's talk about it.
01:10:55
But come on, if you switch any of the people around with their
01:10:59
race and ethnicity, things change.
01:11:03
As far as your view, my view, it doesn't change.
01:11:06
And that's the difference. That's the difference right
01:11:08
there, Drew. If the person who died was black
01:11:13
and the person who killed that person was white, I would
01:11:17
condemn the person who killed even though he was white.
01:11:20
No matter what. No matter.
01:11:22
What takes the life is the one deserving the exact.
01:11:26
Nation, right? Yeah.
01:11:27
And in this case, it's it's the reverse.
01:11:31
And everybody's going well, you're defending Austin Mecca
01:11:33
because he's white. No, I'm defending the person who
01:11:36
died for a basic conflict in a high school is 17.
01:11:40
Year old I, I think maybe more apt to say you're condemning.
01:11:44
Well, sure, I'm the killer rather than.
01:11:46
Anybody that decides to take an iPhone kill in a high thought,
01:11:50
especially at the high school age for that, if there were six
01:11:54
guys beating with bats, OK, fair enough.
01:12:01
That wasn't even close to what it was.
01:12:04
So my closing thought Drew you can love your community but
01:12:09
still call out what's broken. I like that, right?
01:12:13
I love. That Who said that?
01:12:15
Me, I wrote it down. You can support Black youth and
01:12:20
still say this is not OK. Until we stop glorifying or
01:12:25
excusing the violence, nothing changes.
01:12:29
I've been saying that whatever, I just put it into a little bow
01:12:32
here, but that that's my point. Nothing's going to change.
01:12:35
These are the people that want everybody to listen and go.
01:12:38
This is Black Lives Matter, Black national anthem, all these
01:12:44
things that they're doing but they're unwilling to say, stop
01:12:48
killing everybody. And I know that's harsh and
01:12:51
that's the way to end it, but I like it.
01:12:53
It's clipping. What do you think?
01:12:56
Give me some final thoughts and we'll roll.
01:12:59
No, you don't have to. No.
01:13:00
But then I'm I'm just trying to gather like like you said.
01:13:03
I'm done with what I wanted to talk about, so let's roll.
01:13:05
We, we could be, you know, talking about this forever.
01:13:09
Yeah. I.
01:13:13
It's a mess. It is and you know I.
01:13:18
And I'm tired of feeling like I walk on egg shells.
01:13:20
Yeah, you've had a couple days to kind of wrap your head around
01:13:23
what exactly you're going to say.
01:13:25
You know, last few hours I've been, you know, thinking about,
01:13:29
you know, everything. But I just, I feel like
01:13:33
accountability that some black groups want all of the, all the
01:13:38
breaks, but they don't want any responsibility.
01:13:42
They, they, they, they're entitled because they're like,
01:13:45
Oh my. That's hard truth, but it's it's
01:13:47
there. No, but it's there.
01:13:48
Yeah, it's there. They think because you know, the
01:13:51
black, you know, people were, you know, slaves, you know, back
01:13:55
in the day. But but you know, what's not
01:13:57
talked about is a lot of it was the black people in Africa, you
01:14:02
know, enslaving Africans and selling them to the black men.
01:14:07
Well, sure. The the first, the first account
01:14:09
of slavery in written texts is in Egypt, which is in Africa.
01:14:14
The Native Americans, you know, they would, you know, war with
01:14:19
each other. The Sioux and the Pawnee and
01:14:21
whoever was taking Gap did there's there's always been
01:14:24
slavery. So it's like, OK, that was ever
01:14:28
so long ago, let's heal, let's move on.
01:14:30
We're not going to heal from it if you keep bringing it up.
01:14:33
Well, and I always say. Stop playing the victim.
01:14:35
Right. And and I hate, I hate the
01:14:38
victim mindset. And that's why everybody yells
01:14:40
at me for saying, you know, Barack Obama instilled this
01:14:44
identity politics and the victim card and point your finger at
01:14:49
everybody else. And that's what happened.
01:14:51
And so in my opinion, it all it did is make people like Carmelo
01:14:55
Anthony and whether I'm not saying Barack directly did it,
01:14:59
but it's out there, this mindset of, you know, I'm the victim no
01:15:05
matter what, because I'm black. And, and that's the problem.
01:15:09
Native Americans have it. And that's a whole other show.
01:15:12
Drew, we can talk about I, you know, you heard one of my old
01:15:14
shows probably about that. And it, and there's more to it.
01:15:18
It's just not as simple as poor natives.
01:15:21
It's just not. There's a lot to it and there's
01:15:24
still accountability. And I'll call, I'll call out any
01:15:28
of the white people that were horrible, but I'll also call the
01:15:32
natives that were horrible. I'll call the black people that
01:15:35
are horrible anybody that that sucks.
01:15:37
Yeah. Anybody that does these types of
01:15:40
things needs to be called out and until they are, nothing's
01:15:46
going to balance out. And you're talking about the
01:15:52
quick statistic you're talking about. 15% of youth is in this
01:15:55
country is black and they are double the violent crime for
01:16:02
youth overall. Whites are 45% Mexicans or
01:16:08
Hispanic. I'm sorry, are 29.
01:16:12
I memorized all this, you know, you know, the Asians are like
01:16:14
11.5 and the Pacific Island are the same.
01:16:18
All that's down there, but it's it's, you're talking about 15%
01:16:22
of the youth committing double the crime.
01:16:26
And that's a problem. And instead of blaming the
01:16:29
system and blaming everybody else until there's
01:16:32
accountability, which is the word I use, till there's
01:16:36
accountability, nothing will change.
01:16:40
And it's going to keep everybody looking down at a certain group
01:16:42
going. Let's stay away from them.
01:16:45
And it's going to have other people going this and that.
01:16:48
I mean it, it's, it's just what it is.
01:16:52
If if everybody came out on that end and said, hey, this is
01:16:56
bullshit. We need to fix our own people,
01:16:59
our own ethnicity, our own race, whatever you want to call it.
01:17:02
And I'm not OK with what Carmelo Anthony did.
01:17:06
And we're using this story as an example.
01:17:08
I'm not OK with this. We need to be better.
01:17:11
We need to be civilized until that happens, right?
01:17:15
No, I agree 100%. I will call out any perpetrator
01:17:19
of violence. You know, some of the the most,
01:17:22
you know, the incidents of violence that have happened to
01:17:25
me in my life have all been by, you know, white people and I'm
01:17:28
going to call them out on it. I don't care what race, what
01:17:31
justice, justice, true justice is blind.
01:17:35
That's the way it's supposed to be.
01:17:37
If you're a victim, I'll advocate.
01:17:40
I'll advocate for you if you're, you know, the criminal.
01:17:44
I want justice done now. I don't want, and I'm not
01:17:47
talking about the specific case. I'm talking in general.
01:17:50
Don't go. Let the punishment you know.
01:17:52
Let the punishment fit the crime.
01:17:53
All right, there we have it. Tough conversation with Drew.
01:17:58
We had some technical difficulties and so I fixed it,
01:18:01
but Drew has moved on for the night.
01:18:05
Tough conversation, but one that needs to be had.
01:18:09
I think this no longer needs, this is not about white and
01:18:13
black. This is about the reactions that
01:18:17
a certain culture within the youth, certain reactions that
01:18:22
they're having, and it's not OK and they need to be called out.
01:18:27
Accountability needs to be had and we need to figure out how to
01:18:30
make it Better Together. But to sit here and pretend that
01:18:34
there isn't a pattern and behavior when it comes to
01:18:37
confrontations more so on one side than the other, Big time.
01:18:42
By a lot less amount of of youth committing way more of the
01:18:48
violent crimes 17 year olds going to school these days.
01:18:51
It's like, what's going to happen?
01:18:53
I don't want my children to go through it.
01:18:56
And that's sad because guess what?
01:18:58
I'm going to keep my eyes out for certain people over others
01:19:01
because of inability for people to to demand accountability on
01:19:07
this. I am baffled by the amount of
01:19:11
quote UN quote support I'm seeing for Carmelo Anthony and
01:19:16
the the support I'm seeing for, you know, he stood up for
01:19:21
himself. And this isn't 400 years ago.
01:19:23
I mean, this kind of stuff is, is, and I know that it's a
01:19:27
small, you know, minority, but it's enough.
01:19:31
You know, I've literally read hundreds, if not up into the
01:19:33
thousands of takes on this, supporting it and saying things
01:19:38
like that. There's even even some some
01:19:41
idiot who came on and he's got a million followers saying, you
01:19:46
know, come at him and he'll stab, stab, stab or whatever he
01:19:50
said and he thought he was being clever.
01:19:52
It will not turn out that way. And, you know, maybe that's
01:19:56
something the authorities need to look into.
01:19:58
So this guy's making threats, death threats to anybody that
01:20:01
comes near him that's white and then talking about 400 years ago
01:20:05
and he's not, we're not going to put take it anymore.
01:20:07
Take what nothing happened. You're training people to be
01:20:11
cowards. You're training people to murder
01:20:14
in response to a minor confrontation.
01:20:16
You're teaching people that the aggressor who went into another
01:20:20
tent he wasn't supposed to be and brought a knife is OK.
01:20:24
Is that that's OK? That behavior is nothing wrong
01:20:28
with it. And until that mindset changes
01:20:31
and until a lot of passionate black people come out and say, I
01:20:38
am not OK with our youth behaving this way, I'm not OK
01:20:42
with our youth being indoctrinated this way.
01:20:44
And I'm not OK with what comes out of it race wise.
01:20:49
I, I know that I'm getting tired of it.
01:20:51
I'm getting tired of wanting to help.
01:20:54
I just want to avoid it and go over there.
01:20:58
And that's a, that's a different topic and that's sad.
01:21:01
And I'm not a racist. You call me whatever you want,
01:21:05
but being tired of this does not equal being a racist.
01:21:09
Something to think about. Demand accountability.
01:21:14
Every every single white shooter, any kind of white
01:21:18
person that commits crimes is a piece of shit.
01:21:22
I will never condone it no matter the circumstances, and I
01:21:26
will never teach my children to use deadly weapons unless
01:21:31
somebody's using a deadly weapon on you.
01:21:33
And that was not the case. We know that.
01:21:35
So if there's somebody that maybe is interested in this and,
01:21:39
and needs to hear this kind of this point of view, the
01:21:43
uncomfortable side of things, check and give them the show.
01:21:47
Give him or her the link, introduce them to us and
01:21:51
hopefully they come on board and and come talk.
01:21:55
I'd love to have a conversation about it having, having Drew on
01:21:59
was great as a police officer and dealing with students now
01:22:03
with security, having somebody to be able to talk about the
01:22:10
insurance and outs of how it all works and his opinion on the,
01:22:16
the whole, the whole mess. It was neat.
01:22:19
So I'd like to get some people with different perspectives and
01:22:23
come talk to me and I'm always willing to listen.
01:22:27
But this one, this one just seems pretty black and white, if
01:22:31
you will. It, it seems cut and dry.
01:22:33
It seems like there is no excuse and the fact that excuses are
01:22:39
being made and the behavior of of the killer's father and
01:22:43
mother and crying victim is just too much.
01:22:47
So pass it on if if you know anybody and I will see you on
01:22:52
the next show. Love you guys.