Back from a holiday sickness and ready to rant, Ryan kicks off this episode with fresh heat on social trolls, political chaos, and the never-ending battle over immigration, religion, and free speech.
From George Carlin’s take on blind faith to the mess around H1B visas and Elon’s platform policies, nothing is safe. You’ll get:
A takedown of online trolls
A breakdown of the H1B visa debate and American job security
Criticism of Musk, Trump, and algorithm-driven outrage
Reflections on God, fear, and why “open-mindedness” is now radical
Plus, a dose of Carlin and Christmas sarcasm
Chapters:
00:00 - Personal Update & Holiday Recovery
02:09 - Social Media Trolls & Clownery
05:47 - News Highlights & Body Trivia
21:29 - Christmas, Religion & Blind Faith
28:39 - George Carlin on God
33:22 - Trump, Musk & Politics Collide
35:11 - The H1B Visa Debate Begins
50:11 - Free Speech vs. Algorithm Control
52:33 - Final Thoughts & Listener Challenge
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I don't have a problem. No one has a problem with legal
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immigration. But if you're going to move
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65 Indian tech engineers to the front of the line so that
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they can take the the jobs of the ones here or most of them or
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however it works out and continue to do that yearly, I
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think that's where people have an issue.
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Think about it. Religion has actually convinced
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people that there's an Invisible Man living in the sky who
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watches everything you do, every minute of every day.
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And the Invisible Man has a special list of 10 things he
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does not want you to do. And if you do any of these 10
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things, he has a special place full of fire and smoke and
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burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live
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and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and
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ever till the end of time. But he loves you.
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Welcome to Stay in the Grave podcast.
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We explore news that gets people talking by blending comedy and
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controversy. I'm Ryan and I'm Trey.
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Together, we dive into tough topics with a combination of
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humor and some insight to join us as we navigate the Gray areas
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of the world and we're engaging in real conversation.
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Come get to know us all right? Hey guys, I'm excited to be
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here. It's been a while.
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I've been sick. I'm antsy, I'm excited.
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I'm ready to roll. It's been pent up.
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I was sick all Christmas. My kids fucking bring home shit
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from school and I'm out. My wife's out.
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We're just, our house was a germ farm, but things are getting
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better and there's so much look, our, our, our country's jacked
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up right now. The world's jacked up, but our
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country's is jacked up. Just when you think one, one
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side's this way, the other side's that way, then it gets
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all clustered fucked. And we're, we're going to talk
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about it. I'm excited.
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I'm excited to be back. I, you know, this is what I need
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to be. This is what I do.
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And so I hope you guys appreciate me being a little bit
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under the weather. I know I'm not supposed to be
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drinking while under the weather.
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However, I do have a cocktail in hand.
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It is vodka. Let me tell you, when you
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haven't had a chance to get to the liquor store, vodka with
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some of your kids, mango. Mango passion fruit punch does
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the trick. So I'm enjoying a dab of that
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with a nice Tito's vodka. So let's get rolling.
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Let's do the headlines that made it through editing somehow.
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This one was a was an actual headline and you know, obviously
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you know what what they're trying to say, but they just
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can't quite get it out. This one says fireworks show to
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be aired on the radio. All right, I don't feel like
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they're going to get a good ratings for that, but you know,
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good luck to them. Let's go to but her comments to
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the show. You know, I I used to enjoy this
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and I think I'm I'm I'm starting to doubt doing this anymore
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because I just feel like people are I just you know, I I'm
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trying not to name call. So you substitute what you think
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I'm about to say, but my goodness gracious, it is to the
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point where, you know, I'm starting to realize the more
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I've been getting involved, the the more I'm growing that there
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are people that wake up in the morning looking for the term
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troll is an actual, actual thing.
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I thought, all right, you know, just something to, to to say to
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the people that were being unpleasant.
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But the I really feel like these people get up, You know, they
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have 11 subscriber on YouTube, a picture of a damn cat and
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they've been on here since 2019. And but man, they're ready to
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call you names and to tell you you're an idiot and that your
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show sucks. Those are called trolls.
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That's what I've learned. And I just don't get what does
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it make you feel better about yourself to stop on a real on a
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short on a on a show and say, hey, you know, you suck.
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I can tell you if I thought every single person would like
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what I have to say and would like this show, then I this is
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not a good business because I would be taking a lot of
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rejection. I am aware that not everybody
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likes this, but do you need to stop and say it?
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Go ahead. You're going to make butter
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comment to the show and people can, you know, enjoy have some
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entertainment of your your pettiness.
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But you know, this one's this one was funny here short slash
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reel that we put up and all it was was about the small town in
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Canada that was being fined for refusing to fly the pride flag
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during pride month. And they were being fined.
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And I and I thought that was you can't find somebody.
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You can look at them and go, I don't agree with that, but
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define them. I, I didn't agree with it.
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That was just my opinion that I came to and this comment said,
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keep on making stuff up just to cry about it.
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And immediately I, I, I just was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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First off, if you're going to and I got to stop myself and
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realize these people are these people, but you better not what
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I make up. It was an actual story told a
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story didn't make anything up, and my opinion is my opinion and
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I and I'll stay. It's an opinion.
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It's not a fact that they shouldn't be fined.
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It's my opinion they shouldn't be fined.
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So you know, there was no crying.
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I mean, I didn't see one tear during that real slash short.
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So I'm not sure what this guy was talking about.
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And so I just told him to like and subscribe unless you're a
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bot again, this is one of those that had, you know, zero to 1
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subscriber and has been on here for quite a while.
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And I think this is probably, you know, the, the the name is
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JWDAHNXJI mean one of these one of these accounts.
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So maybe it's a bot and maybe that bot got me.
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So let's start focusing on AI and the war on social media with
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AI. The other one for was was kind
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of something that I I ended up again having to block.
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I'm just, you know, we'll, we'll get to that because Elon's
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decided that that Twitter slash X is, there's some stuff going
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on that platform right now. And, and we're going to talk
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about it tonight. But one of the things is, is a,
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an algorithm that's blocking people actually matters.
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And it's, and it's kind of like, whoa, whoa, whoa, let's tap the
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brakes on that. And, and so, you know, people
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are just blocking left and right.
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And I'm trying not to do that because I don't want to silence
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assholes. I don't want to silence people.
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All I've ever said is I want to talk to people.
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So by doing that, I feel a little bit hypocritical and I
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hate hypocrites. But this, you know, at a certain
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point you got to say, OK, enough's enough, we're going to
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move on from it. And I feel like, you know, I had
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a video where I, I put up, I mean, I've had a bunch of them,
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but this, this, so the, the free healthcare really just gets
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people and you, you know, it's, it's somebody that looks at me
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and goes, finally goes, you're right, or, or excuse me, you're
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wrong. I'm right.
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That's the end of it really. I, I, I don't, I don't agree
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with that. First off.
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And you know, I try to say, look, I'm not going to get into
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this with you because I've, it just doesn't work.
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So that's the other tactic is to sit here.
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And, and then lastly, you have these people that go, hey, blah,
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blah, blah, blah, blah, You're this, this, this and this.
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And then and then they block you so you can't respond.
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And that's the most cowardly pussy act that there is.
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If you're, if you're going to go in here and talk and be a
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keyboard warrior, I learned that term behind a picture of a
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fucking cat, at least have the balls to hear my response.
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And then maybe if you don't like it, we can block each other.
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But to go in here and spout off and then immediately block, man,
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what a loser. So any of you that might be
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seeing this, that have done that looking at you.
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And I know I said the last, but I just remembered another one,
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which again, it was so many gums on and goes, I did a video the
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other day about how I've been sick and, and you know, usually
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we do Tuesday and Friday releases and Friday we we missed
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it because of being sick. And I put out something that
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said, hey, look, this is what's going on.
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New show trying to be upbeat. It's 65 damn degrees in Dallas,
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TX. And I'm the guy that wants the
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snow. If it's winter, it needs to be
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snow or at least cold. And it, it, it has not been.
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And so I was out in short sleeves and, and I just put up a
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video. Why not?
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Whether you like me or not, I have people that listen to this
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show. I just do.
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I have the analytics, I have the data to support that.
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You may think it's low. I think it's pretty good for as
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long as I've been doing this and if I reach anybody, I'm happy.
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But this guy comes on and he goes literally use the word
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literate, which everybody knows is another pet peeve.
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He was literally nobody cares about you.
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And I thought that was nice of him.
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Thank you for coming on and taking the time to stop what
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you're doing and tell me that you don't care that I just put
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out something that said, hey everybody, I hope you had a
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Merry Christmas. I've been sick, you know, blah,
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blah, blah. But no, you had to say that.
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So either he heard something before that he didn't like and
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he's lashing out, or he's just a piece of shit and he's a troll
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or he's a bot and he said that. So, you know, again, I should
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just ignore these people. But you know what?
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Interactions, interaction, right?
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So I, I, I just respond. And simply, that's not true.
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I have analytics to prove otherwise.
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At least somebody does care, not literally nobody.
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So there's my butthurt comments to the show segment.
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It, it's, it's not that creative.
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It's just a bunch of trolls. Give me something creative.
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And I've had some, I've had some good ones.
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The other, you know, but I didn't want to do them tonight.
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I'll do them next show. Maybe because of the main topic
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tonight is what they were responding to, and there's some
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good ones there. But it's just be creative, be,
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be, give me some substance behind the insults at least.
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But usually when you immediately come on with your credentials
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and insults, that means you don't have anything if you have
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to tell somebody. So let's move on from butter
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comments. I wanted to mention real fast
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and I thought this was fucking hilarious.
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Before we do news, President Biden says he regrets
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withdrawing from the election. He claims he would be have would
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have been victorious over Donald Trump.
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Now, I've already read this enough to where my laughter is
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gone. So I, I can do the show and, and
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tell you that he said this. Two things.
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Two things. One, if Biden or anybody else
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thinks that he actually had say and whether he was going to drop
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out or not, you're on something because that man was tossed to
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the curb by that party. He had no say.
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And #2 you think you had a chance to beat Donald Trump
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after not only the performance you gave at the debate, but just
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your performance as a president in the last four years.
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Then you're also on something. So I thought it was very
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interesting. And I don't even know if he knew
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he was saying it or if somebody told him to say it or if, if,
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what does this do? What does this do for the
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Democratic Party to have Joe Biden come on and say, I, I
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should have stayed in, even though they know damn well that
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it wasn't him that bowed out. He was pushed out.
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What does it do? Does it kind of make up for it
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saying, oh, man, we, we could have won this thing.
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We're we're we're good for 2028 or does it kind of make them
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look petty? I just thought it was funny and
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that you should know that Biden thinks that he could have won
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and should have stayed in it. I'm not sure which year he
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thinks it is. Good luck, Joe.
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So let's do news. It's my two drink news, but I
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only made one this time. So you can wait for three
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seconds. Those were three Mississippi's.
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But yeah, you'll be all right. All right, how about this?
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Let's talk about commutes to work and to school.
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And, you know, I had, I had one, I think back in the day that was
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about 45 minutes to work, never to school that long.
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You know, I've been lucky to have kind of the commutes have
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been under an hour, which is still long, but it gave me time
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to drink coffee, listen to some tunes back in the in the 90s and
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2000s when you didn't have everybody on their phone and
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crashing into one another. But this takes it to a whole new
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level. And I'm going to butcher this.
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Guangli Zhu, the 28 year old student from China, if you can,
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couldn't tell by my perfect Chinese slash Mandarin accent.
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I'm not sure which one it is, but he's he's in his final
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semester at the Royal Melbourne Institute in Australia.
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This isn't an online class. I'm sure some of it is, but it's
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not an all online class. It says he posted a video on
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Duyen Dalian, which apparently is the Chinese TikTok.
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I thought TikTok was owned by China so I didn't know they had
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to have their own. Maybe this just means TikTok in
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Chinese? I don't know.
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I don't know but the Chinese version of TikTok he put he
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posted a a a video about his weekly commute.
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His weekly commute is 5468 miles.
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That's a long way to get across from New York to LA is about
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3500 miles or maybe a little less I believe.
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Tell me if I'm wrong, but it's not 5000 and I didn't think it
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was 5000 from China to Australia, but I'm learning
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better and better geography with all the news I give you.
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This guy was from the Des. Look, I'm not Chinese, I, I, I
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never claimed to to know how to speak it or the accent or the
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pronunciation. So Des Howell, which is in the
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Shandong, don't mean to laugh, but I'm laughing at myself.
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The Shandong Providence and he would go to Melbourne and back
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in each week he 11 times made the trip during a semester just
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from August to December it was a semester or September to
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December $1500 round trip which isn't too bad.
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You know, for us over here in the United States, that trip to
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Australia is a lot more money than that.
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I believe. I don't think you can get one
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for 750 even back in the back with the peasants.
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But he claims, and his quote was, I think the money is better
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spent to stay at home. So man, I don't know.
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I don't, I don't know. And maybe you do your school
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work on the commute. Maybe he likes to fly.
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Maybe I don't know. I don't what would you do?
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I'm, I'm, I'm kind of torn. I thought about it and I, you
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know, the experience, but it just seems like why not stay and
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embrace another culture and try and learn it and experience it
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and you can go back home after. But I guess maybe he's either
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got a big set, a case of homesickness, or he prefers his
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own culture every day. Fair enough.
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Next sister. Meaning none for the layman
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sister Anna. I'm going to say Anna 'cause
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she's Italian. So I think that sounds more
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Italian. Anna Donnelly was arrested in
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relation to Mafia investigations in northern Italy.
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So she's a volunteer at a prison.
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You can't make this up. And it gave her as a volunteer,
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as a nun, and it gave her this access to penitentiary can't
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talk the all the facilities. And So what happened was that
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she was relaying messages between the Indrangheda mafia
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and all the incarcerated members of that group.
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So she was like, you know, getting private information from
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1:00 to the other, and I guess they're in their master plan of
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whatever the hell they were going to do, and she's awaiting
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trial. That story is very quick and
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very simple, but I just picture a nun going to visit a prison
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and being sentenced for dealing with the mafia or aiding and
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abiding the mafia. I don't know if that's what God
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meant when He said good deeds, but what do I know?
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All right, here's some fun facts.
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Real quick, this is my third bit of news and then we're going to
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move on because I got a lot to get to.
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These are 4 facts that I found I found entertaining about the
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human body. The butt is the largest muscle
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in the body. So the glute glute, and I
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thought it was the tongue, but I guess that's the most, the
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strongest is the tongue anyway. But the butt is the largest,
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apparently the largest muscle Luteus, whatever it's called in
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Latin, the way we sit, which you know, I, I have bad posture, as
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you can tell. But the way we sit, it affects
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our memories. If you're looking up, you'll
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remember your good memories, your positive memories, the good
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times in your life better than if you're looking down.
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And I think maybe that's why everybody's an asshole these
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days is because everybody's looking down into their fucking
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phone or looking down to avoid eye contact because everybody's
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pissed at the world and they're remembering bad stuff.
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That's my theory, but it's very interesting.
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So I don't know if everybody's supposed to walk around and just
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kind of like, you know, looking up.
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But if you're meditating or if you're, you know, daydreaming,
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relaxing, having a cup of coffee, having a drink at night,
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keep your head up and you'll remember the maybe that's where
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the phrase keep your chin up comes from.
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And you know what? If everybody already knew this
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and I'm just throwing shit out there, then fuck you because I'm
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excited that I learned something.
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So there we go. Dirty hair can help the
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environment. Did you know that it absorbs the
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ozone? Because of this, I guess the
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scalp oils absorbent, which makes them look, I guess, dirty.
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So if you see me on a day where my hair looks greasy, you're
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welcome environmentalist, I'm here for you.
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Lastly, did you know that humans actually glow?
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I immediately thought of Twilight and the and the
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vampires how they sparkle and I don't know whether that makes me
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kind of a a weenie or if any of you thought of that when I just
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said that humans glow. Please comment if you did so
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that I know I'm not alone. 1000 times less intense than levels
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that are human eye can spot. That's why we can't see it.
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I wonder if there is there anything else that can see it
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that might be able to capture that.
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Maybe that's, you know, two different animal, we glow and
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freak them out. It goes up and down each day and
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the least amount of glow is at 10:00 AM in the morning.
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Makes sense. Wake up coughing kind of, you
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know, whatever long day the most is 4:00 PM.
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And I think maybe that's maybe we're trained with the work day.
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So people are like, OK, 5:00 is almost here. 4:00 I'm going
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ready to roll Happy hour. Let's get drunk.
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Let's party or let's go home and watch, binge some show.
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But either way, 4 O clock is when you're at your brightest.
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So there you go. That was news.
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Quick news because I have two main main topics to get to
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tonight and I wanted to kind of latch onto the last show and the
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last show was my Christmas show. I missed a show in between.
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This will be the New Year's Eve release.
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I don't have any fun facts about New Year's.
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That was a my old Co host Trey. That was his his responsibility.
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He was the good good, always good with those facts and and
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lists about holidays and events. I failed you in that regard for
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New Year's. But I would like to piggyback on
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to what I was talking about with Christmas and religion because I
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started thinking about it after I rewatched the show that
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released on Christmas. It's episode 420.
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Go back and check it out. I have a beautiful Pittsburgh
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Penguins Christmas sweater. But I start thinking about how
00:21:43
Christmas, it's a season. To me, it's, you know, how many
00:21:48
times during the Christmas season, the holiday season in
00:21:52
this country, as so many lefties mainly like to say, religious.
00:21:57
Of course, the Christians are get angry about that and they're
00:22:00
mostly right wing, but it just seems like more of a season.
00:22:05
It doesn't seem like I hear too many, you know, Oh, I'm so
00:22:10
excited about Jesus's birthday coming up.
00:22:13
It's more of I'm excited about Christmas or I'm excited about
00:22:16
going to look at lights or the Christmas tree or if you're a
00:22:20
child or an adult, a presence, sweet presence, visiting with
00:22:26
family, drinking eggnog, watching Christmas vacation,
00:22:30
watching cheesy fucking Hallmark movies that I I did a one so far
00:22:35
with my wife and I'm willing to do more because I don't mind
00:22:39
them that much. I'll admit it.
00:22:41
And then I watch football, but it's a season and so I started
00:22:47
thinking about it and it but it makes people happy.
00:22:49
I just feel like, you know, this year's maybe a little different
00:22:53
in the election and everybody's still kind of wanting to fight
00:22:56
and spit at each other. But overall it's it seems like
00:22:59
it's it's more of a season. And I like that to a point.
00:23:03
You know, Christians die hard, You know, even, you know, Jews
00:23:08
and Muslims and things like that can embrace the season.
00:23:10
They don't. It doesn't have to be.
00:23:12
That's not my religion. I can't embrace everybody being
00:23:16
Cherry. I can't embrace the, you know,
00:23:17
beautiful lights, New York City and Christmas is something
00:23:21
special. I was able to go up there in
00:23:23
December and see it. It's it's and all of this
00:23:28
surrounds the Christian faith. But there was, you know, and I
00:23:33
should have pulled it up. Maybe I'll post it on social
00:23:34
media. You have the United Arab
00:23:36
Emirates, main airline, Emirates.
00:23:40
And I realized people that they, that they're, they have probably
00:23:44
done things the right way and they've used their oil money to
00:23:47
create this beautiful city, as we know, called Dubai that many
00:23:53
tourists go to and want to see. And so they're catering to those
00:23:57
tourists. I get that, but they had I've
00:24:01
never seen anything like it where they had motorized Santa
00:24:05
and and reindeer pulling not really, but pulling the plane
00:24:10
and as it took off, Santa took off 1st and the plane took off
00:24:13
behind it and it was just cool. But this was a this is an Arab
00:24:16
country. Technically it's the United Arab
00:24:18
Emirates. And so to do that is what we
00:24:21
should all be doing. Let's all you know, whatever
00:24:24
admittedly Muslims, I need to know your holidays.
00:24:27
I don't know them all, and you know, if you told me the names
00:24:30
that may have, may have heard of them, but tell me what they are
00:24:32
so I can wish you a happy one or a merry one or whatever you
00:24:36
prefer. Because guess what?
00:24:38
It's about individual spirituality.
00:24:41
In my opinion. Whatever makes you a better
00:24:43
person, whatever makes you happy, whatever makes you do
00:24:46
good, whatever makes you in your heart feel like this is where I
00:24:50
belong, Do it. And let's stop yelling at each
00:24:55
other. And for fuck's sake, let's stop
00:24:56
killing each other in these stupid wars.
00:24:58
Governments leaders, fucking terrorists.
00:25:03
But it got, it just got me thinking about individual
00:25:05
spirituality and I want to know why it's bad.
00:25:08
Why is me saying that bad? Because a lot of people, I need
00:25:11
to be careful now because according to some of my Muslim
00:25:14
friends, there's some extremists that would not like to hear
00:25:16
that. There's some Christians that
00:25:19
would not like to hear this Jews, same thing.
00:25:22
The Hindus and, and, and some of these people, they're probably
00:25:25
the peaceful, the Buddha and all that shit.
00:25:28
From what I know about that, they're, they're peaceful and
00:25:30
they'll be like, oh, you might, you're probably right.
00:25:32
I think I might, I may have checked more into that and just
00:25:35
kind of hang with those guys. They always seem like just
00:25:37
chilling. They're not fighting anybody.
00:25:39
They're just chilling in their robes and like relaxing.
00:25:43
That's what I want. My religion.
00:25:44
Who cares if you're worshipping some weird fucking statue or
00:25:47
cow? I'm all for it.
00:25:49
Let's roll joke people, calm down.
00:25:52
Unless you're Hindu and I'm with you.
00:25:54
But what really bothers me about this and that that that ties on
00:25:59
to what I was just saying is that people, just because you
00:26:01
say it doesn't mean it's the only way, doesn't mean it's the
00:26:04
way. You don't know anybody.
00:26:07
Nobody can offer me proof. The Bible says this and there's
00:26:11
been archaeological bullshit. There's enough in there that
00:26:14
hasn't been. You're going by blind faith.
00:26:16
In fact, that's something that you tell people.
00:26:19
All these religions. There has to be blind faith.
00:26:21
There has to be or it does not check out and there's nothing
00:26:25
wrong with that. That's a great blind faith.
00:26:28
If you feel it and you go all the best, but don't nitpick.
00:26:33
Let's quit nitpicking. Don't tell me I'm going to go to
00:26:37
hell or don't tell me that I'm an infidel or don't tell me that
00:26:41
you know all anything you can tell me because I'm with you.
00:26:45
I believe in God. I don't know all the other
00:26:47
details and there's nothing wrong with that.
00:26:50
Being open, wanting to learn, wanting to open all the books
00:26:56
and read them all. I learned that the first five
00:26:59
books are used in all three of the Abrahamic Abrahamic
00:27:03
religions. Did all of you know that
00:27:05
Probably maybe I'm late to the party, but all I know is that
00:27:09
that to me tells me that we shouldn't be fighting.
00:27:11
We should be like, let's have a discussion on on how you feel.
00:27:15
I'd love to hear it. And I hope that I get to get to
00:27:18
have that soon. But what I'm going to do now is
00:27:20
I'm going to play you if I can find it.
00:27:23
I'm, I haven't been great at this.
00:27:24
I'm going to play right here a clip.
00:27:27
This is from one of my favorite comedians of all time and, and
00:27:31
probably 1 of yours if you're, I'm not going to put an age on
00:27:35
this, but he was from the, you know, he, he passed away and he
00:27:40
had a long career. And this is a man named George
00:27:42
Carlin. And he is fantastic.
00:27:45
And, and I saw this clip and this is when he was older,
00:27:48
probably maybe five years before he passed, and it made too much
00:27:53
sense. And I don't agree with all of it
00:27:54
because George was more of an atheist.
00:27:57
He was more of a, you know, the religious stories and all that
00:28:01
are bullshit and they've got you believing in it.
00:28:03
He, he did have a lot of that in him and that's fine.
00:28:05
But he was comedian, he was an entertainer.
00:28:08
And I took bits and pieces. But there is a part here that
00:28:11
I'm going to play for you that we're going to listen to that
00:28:14
fits exactly what what I'm saying about being open, wanting
00:28:18
to to learn more individual spirituality and check this out.
00:28:22
It's really funny. Here we go.
00:28:25
I think they'll put it somewhere you choose, boys, put it
00:28:31
wherever you like on the screen. Here's George.
00:28:36
Think about it, Religion has actually convinced people that
00:28:40
there's an Invisible Man living in the sky who watches
00:28:44
everything you do every minute of every day.
00:28:47
And the Invisible Man has a special list of 10 things he
00:28:49
does not want you to do. And if you do any of these 10
00:28:53
things, he has a special place full of fire and smoke and
00:28:56
burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live
00:28:59
and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and
00:29:02
ever till the end of time. But he loves.
00:29:05
You, I thought that that is the best and he goes on a little bit
00:29:13
and and of course he's big time anti government and all that.
00:29:17
But but he thinks everybody's conspiracy against, against you.
00:29:20
But that is exactly what I'm talking about is this idea that
00:29:25
if I don't believe the way that you do, then you're going to go
00:29:29
here and you're going to burn and you're going to do this.
00:29:31
But but, but he loves you and he whatever.
00:29:33
So my, my thought is that God isn't mean.
00:29:36
I hope not. That would suck.
00:29:38
I don't believe in this idea of fearing God.
00:29:42
There are people that say I'm a I'm a God fearing man.
00:29:45
Why do you why would God want you to fear him versus use other
00:29:49
word like respect or love or I don't know, but fear?
00:29:54
Do you think God wants us to fear him?
00:29:56
I don't know. And then these are one of the
00:29:58
things one of the topics I like to to talk about.
00:30:01
But if he's all knowing he's all infallible, he's all infallible,
00:30:05
he's infallible, then he should understand.
00:30:08
If there's somebody like myself who, who doesn't, I don't not
00:30:11
believe. I'm not atheist.
00:30:13
I'm not sitting here saying that's stupid, there's no God.
00:30:16
Then God should go, Hey, look, I I actually like this, this human
00:30:22
that I made and created and whatever wants to know more.
00:30:26
That's how everybody should be. Let's learn.
00:30:29
Let's be good to each other. Let's listen to each other.
00:30:34
I don't know, you know, tell me I'm full of shit when it comes
00:30:37
to religion all you want, but I don't think so.
00:30:39
I think it's a personal choice in that the more we talk about
00:30:44
it and listen to each other and learn from each other, maybe the
00:30:48
less will kill each other over it, you know, whatever.
00:30:50
Anyway, sorry, I didn't look at my nose.
00:30:52
I just don't like the way it's politicized.
00:30:54
Also, I, I feel like if you're religious, you're supposed to be
00:30:58
on the right. If you're not, you're on the
00:30:59
left. If you, you know, if you're
00:31:01
Muslim, you're on the left. Like it's like it's, it's, it's
00:31:04
all of a sudden this the, your religion dictates where you fall
00:31:08
politically and that's stupid. Remember that our brains are
00:31:12
only capable of so much, and I just don't think anybody,
00:31:15
anybody can claim that they understand it and that they get
00:31:18
it and they can tell you straight up what it's all about
00:31:22
and that you're right or wrong. So let's move on.
00:31:25
All right, let's get to let me see what we're doing on time
00:31:29
here. Jesus.
00:31:31
OK, let's get to it. I'll try and make it quick,
00:31:35
Elon, for those of you that don't know Elon Musk, who has
00:31:45
been a Trump guy, who's been his biggest donor, who's probably a,
00:31:50
a big reason that Trump won, maybe not the biggest, but he
00:31:55
definitely didn't hurt. His relationship with Joe Rogan
00:32:00
didn't hurt. Joe's endorsement didn't hurt.
00:32:03
And then Vivek Ramaswamy. And, and so Trump has appointed
00:32:06
these guys and I, and I'll get to that, that he's putting them
00:32:09
on his staff. They've come together.
00:32:11
Vivek is, is conservative Indian American born here, but
00:32:18
definitely from Indian descent. And Elon was a former Democrat
00:32:23
from South Africa. OK, simple background.
00:32:28
And I want this to be an example of having a discussion about the
00:32:32
Gray areas of a topic and not this, you're on this side or
00:32:39
this side. So fuck you.
00:32:40
And that seems to be what I'm getting with this topic, which
00:32:46
and it guess where it's coming from the right.
00:32:50
I always talk about the left doing this and that how I can
00:32:54
never align with those guys. I'm a registered independent.
00:32:56
I voted for Donald Trump. And now the right is, is getting
00:32:59
crazy. Go on Twitter, Elon's platform,
00:33:02
go. It's fucking crazy right now
00:33:06
and, and I wouldn't be surprised if it hit you normal people who
00:33:09
just went on Twitter for sports or something like that and all
00:33:11
of a sudden you're looking and going, what's going on?
00:33:13
But I digress. Here we go.
00:33:15
H1B visas. I think that's how you say H1B
00:33:21
visas are the topic. What that does is it allows US
00:33:26
employees, employers, I'm sorry, to hire employees from another
00:33:33
country for specialties, specialty occupations.
00:33:40
It's the largest visa category and you have to have a
00:33:44
bachelor's degree or higher. Seven of ten of these are from
00:33:48
India of all the countries in the world, and it's for a Max of
00:33:55
six years. Elon and Vivek, let me tell you
00:33:57
what happened. So their title that Trump gave
00:34:01
them is the the, the head of the Department of Government
00:34:04
efficiency, whatever the hell that is.
00:34:07
At the time, I was like, oh, that's cool.
00:34:09
You know, I like, I like the idea of having Elon and Vivek on
00:34:12
board. They haven't up until whatever
00:34:17
stirred the pot. They're definitely doing it now.
00:34:20
And the claim from them is that H1 BS are are essential because
00:34:27
our US culture, and this is the part that gets everybody wound
00:34:31
up, the US culture doesn't prioritize success in science
00:34:36
and engineering. And essentially Vivek literally
00:34:40
said this quote. American culture has venerated
00:34:44
mediocrity. There's some more, but I trust I
00:34:48
didn't change the context. I promise.
00:34:50
So his claim is that we value the prom queen over the math
00:34:54
Olympiad, the jock over the valedictorian, etcetera,
00:34:59
etcetera. Before I move on to what Elon
00:35:01
said, I, I, you, Vivek, just because you might have been that
00:35:05
guy, that math dork, doesn't mean that you need to like lash
00:35:09
out at everybody else because you need a little of everything.
00:35:14
There's nothing wrong with being prong prom king, prom queen.
00:35:17
There's nothing wrong with being an an athlete jock.
00:35:19
I mean, look how much these fuckers get paid.
00:35:22
People are entertained by people like it.
00:35:24
It's not easy. I'm talking as if I'm one of
00:35:27
those. I'm not a professional athlete,
00:35:29
but give me a break. I mean, that's, that's a very
00:35:31
vague blanket statement. And it's, that's, that's
00:35:34
dangerous. It's a little bit of, I don't
00:35:36
like the way you put that because guess what?
00:35:40
Americans like myself don't like being told that we are OK with
00:35:45
mediocrity. There are a lot of reasons that
00:35:48
our education system is mediocre, which by the way, was
00:35:52
it's fallen to what, 18th, 20th or something like that.
00:35:56
Correct me if I'm wrong, people write me, but it's not
00:36:00
substandard per SE. So to say that it was a little
00:36:04
surprising to me. I don't know if he feels
00:36:06
comfortable now that Trump won that he can say whatever he
00:36:08
wants. But Elon, Elon said there's a
00:36:11
shortage of extremely talented and motivated engineers.
00:36:15
Let me clarify, he said. I'm referring to bringing in,
00:36:23
via legal immigration, the top .1% of engineering talent for
00:36:31
America to be the best, essentially.
00:36:33
So that might not sound like a lot and it's not in the big
00:36:37
scheme. And I'm OK with point 1%, I
00:36:39
think. But is it really point 1%?
00:36:43
And that's what people are talking about right now.
00:36:46
Trump said a month ago And I, and that's my biggest thing, is
00:36:49
that who gives a shit what what Vivek and Elon are saying?
00:36:53
What is Donald saying? I have a feeling he can nip this
00:36:56
in the butt if he needs to. Problem is, is that on a
00:36:59
podcast? I, I forget which one, I'm not
00:37:02
going to plug you. Apparently you're doing well
00:37:04
enough if you talking to Donald. Donald, if you want to come on
00:37:08
ours, I would love it. But apparently he said that once
00:37:13
illegal immigration was kind of handled, he wasn't opposed to
00:37:18
bringing in the H1B visas and, and, and to help out in that
00:37:23
regard. And I, I'm pretty sure that was
00:37:24
probably advised by Elon and Vivek.
00:37:29
This is the problem right here. This is what people are upset
00:37:32
about. 65 visas of this type per year Max an additional
00:37:39
20 if you have masters or higher.
00:37:44
What are your thoughts initially when you hear that a year These
00:37:49
people can come in mostly from 70% from India right off the
00:37:53
bat. The others are China, Taiwan,
00:37:55
some other countries in that region for the for the most
00:37:58
part. Other than that, it's very, very
00:38:01
minimal. I feel like, and I thought long
00:38:04
and hard about this because this is divided people who voted for
00:38:08
Donald Trump. I think that 90% of the people
00:38:11
that voted have made the decision and are like, fuck you,
00:38:14
Elon and and Vivek and are saying, hey, immediately, Are
00:38:18
you kidding me? Donald Trump has ran on a
00:38:22
platform of bringing jobs back, of not letting jobs out of this
00:38:26
country. And all of a sudden you're,
00:38:27
you're, you're telling me you're going to bring in 65.
00:38:31
And it's not just for top jobs. We don't have 65 top notch
00:38:37
engineering tech jobs in this country.
00:38:42
Apparently the list of jobs is available for anybody to see for
00:38:47
these visas and some of them are are are even janitorial work
00:38:53
within some of these tech facilities making the same
00:38:57
amount as an American would. Some of them are a little bit
00:39:02
higher up maybe What do you call it the desk work and and all of
00:39:06
that filing assistant work phones the same amount an
00:39:12
American would make. And if you mean to tell me that
00:39:15
we can't do those all of those jobs and inspire and motivate
00:39:20
somebody to do that higher than a mediocre level, I would
00:39:25
disagree with you. Everybody knows that I voted for
00:39:31
Donald and that I was very proud of Elon and Joe Rogan and all
00:39:35
these guys. Vivek is a smart guy.
00:39:38
I think he's a cheese ball at times, but he's very smart.
00:39:42
Maybe he was the math Olympiad or whatever, but he's he's a
00:39:46
dorky guy, but he's smart and and probably really, really nice
00:39:50
and fun to to hang out with, but he'll probably tell you straight
00:39:53
to your face. He's a dork.
00:39:55
But I like him and, you know, he jumped on the Trump train as
00:39:59
soon as he realized that he had no shot at being president.
00:40:02
He immediately was one of the only people that said, I'm, I'm
00:40:05
back in Trump. Other people that were running
00:40:09
for a Republican candidate still were bashing Trump.
00:40:14
And you don't hear from those people, oddly enough.
00:40:19
So I just I I don't understand why you need 65 a year.
00:40:26
And that's my question to everybody.
00:40:31
To Elon's credit, he did say that the H1B system needs to be
00:40:36
overhauled. Good for you, Elon.
00:40:40
There you go. Because that makes more sense.
00:40:42
If you're saying we want to bring in my point with the H1B
00:40:47
is that if you want to supplement this country and its
00:40:52
great minds, which we have regardless of whether Vivek
00:40:56
Ramaswami thinks that we overall embrace mediocrity, which I
00:41:01
don't agree with, not overall, we need to maybe boost up, boost
00:41:07
up in general. But there are people here with
00:41:11
brilliance, brilliant minds. And so to supplement that with
00:41:19
a, with people, a certain number of people, great.
00:41:24
That's what this country is about.
00:41:25
I don't have a problem. No one has a problem with legal
00:41:27
immigration. But if you're going to move
00:41:30
65 Indian tech engineers to the front of the line so that
00:41:35
they can take the, the jobs of the ones here or most of them or
00:41:41
however it works out and continue to do that yearly, I
00:41:44
think that's where people have an issue.
00:41:47
So if you're able to, as Elon said, to adjust this a bit and
00:41:54
to overhaul it and to say, hey, look, yeah, we definitely don't
00:41:58
want to close be closed off to having people here that can make
00:42:01
this better. Great.
00:42:04
But but those amounts are extreme in my opinion.
00:42:06
And and I'm going to, I'm going to go ahead and and state my
00:42:09
case that that's that's too high every year to have that.
00:42:14
I mean, I mean, you're, you're literally it's an influx and
00:42:17
it's not about race. People, of course, are making
00:42:21
about race. And and you know what, all you
00:42:24
on the left suck it. You know, everybody.
00:42:26
Oh, this is so much fun to watch.
00:42:28
The, the Trump voters are tearing each other apart.
00:42:31
No, it's called trying to debate and figure out an issue like
00:42:34
adults. I admit there's some tearing
00:42:37
each other apart, but there's nothing like what they do on the
00:42:40
on the left. So shut up.
00:42:42
That the what? You're not helping.
00:42:45
I've never seen a group of people cheer for the country to
00:42:47
fail like I do. The modern liberal, it's crazy.
00:42:50
They lost the election. And now it's like, you know,
00:42:53
deep down they're like, oh, I'll deal with four years of complete
00:42:56
and utter failure in this country just to say I told you
00:42:59
so. And that's absurd.
00:43:04
So the main issue is that Trump has campaigned on bringing jobs
00:43:09
back to the country. If he does this, that goes
00:43:14
against what he's been campaigning, in my opinion.
00:43:17
Again, some of them bring over some great minds, bring over
00:43:21
some people that would would add, contribute to society,
00:43:25
contribute to our country. But this seems extreme.
00:43:30
And I'll say it again, both Elon and Vivek, upon receiving this
00:43:36
backlash, have now compared it to sports.
00:43:40
And so that's what I'll do here for you if you're kind of trying
00:43:44
to figure out what the Hell's going on.
00:43:46
What they're saying is that, hey, in basketball, they use the
00:43:50
NBA as an example. I'm not a big NBA guy.
00:43:54
Those guys are a bunch of prima donnas if you ask me, compared
00:43:57
to hockey and football, even football.
00:44:00
But college basketball is a whole different.
00:44:04
This is not a sports podcast as much as my Co host, old Co host
00:44:08
Trey and I wanted it to be at one point, but he compared it to
00:44:12
sports team and he said, hey, you know, Wimby Yama for the
00:44:16
NBA. If anybody doesn't know, he
00:44:17
plays for the San Antonio Spurs from a foreign country.
00:44:21
Luka Dokovic. I can't ever say his name.
00:44:24
So Yokovic or Djokovic, whatever his name is from different
00:44:28
country. These people, the, the NBA are
00:44:32
drafting a lot of people from foreign countries to make their
00:44:37
team better. And so that's what they're kind
00:44:40
of comparing it to. Hey, look, if we need a point
00:44:42
guard in technical engineering over here and we don't have one
00:44:47
that we think is as good as this guy over here in India, why not
00:44:51
bring him over? And I'm, I'm all for that to a
00:44:54
point. There's a line.
00:44:56
And I think, I think there's a Gray area to this, which is what
00:44:59
I'm talking about. Bring over some why, why not
00:45:03
make the best, But don't sit here and tell us that 65
00:45:10
Indian visas need to be handed out because we can't handle that
00:45:16
in the United States because of a mediocre mindset, because of
00:45:22
striving for mediocrity. According to Vivek, that was an
00:45:25
inappropriate thing to say, even with the context that he meant
00:45:30
it in. I I don't think there's a way
00:45:31
out of that. I think the only way out of that
00:45:33
is to say, you know what? All right, these are my
00:45:38
opinions. Let's see what we can do to help
00:45:40
fix that here before jumping across.
00:45:44
So I was torched, torched for saying this, that there's a Gray
00:45:53
area. And this is from all the people
00:45:56
that are like minded to me when it comes to American politics.
00:45:59
We're all people that voted for Trump.
00:46:01
And I'm getting all these beside, like I said, besides the
00:46:04
lefties that are going on here to be trolls, all the
00:46:08
Republicans are like, oh, you know, you're, you know, giving
00:46:11
me memes of people doing the, the blowjob motion for Elon
00:46:16
because I, I made a, a positive comment in response to his tweet
00:46:21
or his post. Heaven forbid I'd be positive
00:46:24
and say, Hey, look, you know, you know more than me.
00:46:27
You have done more than me. You're Elon and you helped
00:46:32
Donald get elected. I'm willing to listen to you.
00:46:35
And I got God, I got torched and it made me think it's not just
00:46:39
the left. So righties, let's be better.
00:46:44
And I, and I don't even view myself as a righty, a righty.
00:46:47
I'm, I'm an independent that leans right because the left has
00:46:51
gone insane. And I've said that before.
00:46:54
So don't act surprised. But come on, let's talk show the
00:47:00
left that we're better. Show the left that that this is
00:47:02
an issue that that's come up and that we're going to figure it
00:47:07
out. But you got to hang in the Gray
00:47:09
areas. I'm not just plug in the show,
00:47:11
ladies and gentlemen, but you do the last thing that I want to
00:47:15
talk about and then I'll wrap it up.
00:47:17
My boys are going to be upset because I cannot keep a show
00:47:20
close to 30 to 40 minutes. It always goes a little over,
00:47:23
but it's because it's great content and I hope you're
00:47:26
enjoying it. Lastly, very fast.
00:47:30
Elon has always spoken out about free speech and it's why I want
00:47:37
to want to spend some time on XI, want to support that because
00:47:41
I believe in it too. Free speech, let's do it.
00:47:45
You can say whatever, whatever the fuck you want on on X,
00:47:50
there's none. And that's whatever.
00:47:51
All of a sudden he comes out and says, by the way, the algorithms
00:47:56
will be affected by how many people block you.
00:48:02
OK, Elon, you're one of the smartest minds of our world.
00:48:08
People are going to use that block button like it's just just
00:48:12
all day long. I don't agree.
00:48:14
I don't agree. I'm going to block, block, block
00:48:16
and try and silence everybody. This is not a good thing that
00:48:20
you're that you're proposing for these algorithms.
00:48:23
I wouldn't say up and coming anymore, but I'd say a podcast
00:48:25
trying to grow, trying to reach people.
00:48:27
And you're telling me if someone disagrees with something, I say
00:48:30
they can hit block and it's going to affect my reach.
00:48:33
That's against what you said. That's against what you wanted.
00:48:36
What's the fuck is going on? And this is coming from you.
00:48:41
This isn't like people are are reading some false publication
00:48:45
from the liberal rags. This is from you.
00:48:48
And I just ask you to rethink this.
00:48:50
How, how am I supposed to grow? How's anybody supposed to grow?
00:48:54
How are we supposed to get reach?
00:48:55
I support you. I support Donald.
00:48:58
And you're sitting here telling me that if all these liberals
00:49:00
are blocking me, blocking me, blocking me, that it's going to
00:49:02
affect my reach. You say it will balance out with
00:49:05
positives and reposts and likes and comments.
00:49:10
But how are how am I going to get that if the algorithms don't
00:49:14
give me reach? So I just wanted to mention
00:49:18
everybody that you need to. And, and by the way, apparently
00:49:20
you're not supposed to use hashtags anymore either,
00:49:22
according to Mr. Musk. So he's going off.
00:49:25
He's got a lot to say now. Donald Trump won an election and
00:49:29
Elon's just rolling out with all this different stuff and it's
00:49:33
kind of hitting everybody at once and everybody's kind of the
00:49:37
wind knocked out of them. And, and I went on the other
00:49:40
night and I hadn't been on in in one day and I was like, what is
00:49:43
going on? So take a look at all of it.
00:49:46
It's kind of crazy, you know, and that pretty much ends the
00:49:48
show. It's kind of like like and
00:49:51
follow help word of mouth. Who knows what the algorithms
00:49:54
are going to do And, and X is one of the platforms that I'm
00:49:58
trying to build and get people to shoot over to YouTube or get
00:50:02
people to shoot over to Spotify where the where the the show,
00:50:05
the shows are based. But man, if Elon's going to take
00:50:09
away reach because people disagree with me, I'm fucked.
00:50:13
So anybody that is enjoying this or that is like minded to me in
00:50:17
any way, or even if you or some some yes, some no, but maybe you
00:50:22
like my smile or you don't give me a like, give me a give a
00:50:29
follow, subscribe, tell people check this guy out or at least
00:50:34
check out his clips, check it out, give some likes and and go
00:50:38
from there. I just I'm way over on my time
00:50:42
or or else I'd probably go off more.
00:50:44
But my goodness, with Elon and this whole thing now the right
00:50:48
wing is and you're, you're kind of going, was this the plan of
00:50:52
somebody like maybe deep down they backed Trump to get to the,
00:50:57
there's so much you could take out of this.
00:50:58
The bottom line is, I think that Ilana Vivek had some sort of
00:51:03
idea about this, these, these visas and, and, and they're
00:51:09
going to roll with it. And they believe only in
00:51:13
innovation and being the best. Is it worth it?
00:51:17
That's what I'll leave you with. Is it worth it to be the best to
00:51:22
sacrifice some natural born American citizens jobs?
00:51:28
And I'll leave that with you. And we'll go from there.
00:51:32
Let me give you the End Quote of the night and we'll wrap it up.
00:51:36
This is it. Work until your idols become
00:51:39
your rivals. I'm coming for you, Joe Rogan.
00:51:44
You're my idol now. But hopefully will be arrival
00:51:48
one day, a friendly arrival. I'd love to smoke a cigar with
00:51:51
you one day on the note. Love you guys.
00:51:54
Hope you have a great safe New Year's Eve tonight.
00:51:57
I said tonight because I know it'll be released on New Year's
00:52:00
Eve and let's start the new year off great and start listening to
00:52:03
each other, having a conversation and go from there.
00:52:07
And I look forward to having lots of guests coming up and
00:52:10
embracing the new format of the show and can't do it without you
00:52:14
guys. So love you, see you next year,
00:52:19
bye.