In this thought-provoking episode of Stay in the Gray, Trey and Ryan unpack the real-life story of Prisha Mosley—a young woman who publicly regrets her gender transition. We explore what went wrong, who’s to blame, and how her experience sheds light on a growing conversation about medical ethics, identity, and youth vulnerability.
Also on deck: bagpipes might not be Scottish (?!), why some medications are making anxiety worse, and the haunting reality of cousin marriages and the “City of the Silent.” Plus, we preview our safari trip, share some hilariously odd listener updates, and dive into our latest Awareness of Self-Awareness segment covering elevators, photo faux pas, and right-turn rage.
If you’re ready to question everything and laugh while doing it—this one’s for you.
Chapters:
00:00 – Intro
01:13 – Trey’s Pre-Workout & Guest Recap
03:13 – Listener Location Updates
06:58 – Bagpipes: Not Scottish?
09:11 – Safari Preview
24:01 – Prisha Mosley & Transition Regret
50:12 – Anxiety & Medications
1:02:26 – Twilight Zone Facts: Teeth, Cousin-Marriages, City of the Silent
1:14:43 – Awareness of Self-Awareness: Elevators, Pictures, Right-Turn Lanes
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This is where it's at. Here we are, just old, good old
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episode 32. Wow.
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Tonight. Yeah.
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Wow. No part of me feels like it's
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it's. Only been a few, but part of me
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also feels like we've been doing this for years.
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I think it's the quality of the show.
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I think that's as opposed to quantity.
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It's got to be it. The quality makes us feel like
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we're we're true podcasters. That is crazy.
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That's #32 already. There were flying.
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I love it. It the old adage, Trey.
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Time flies, right? All that, all that bullshit, all
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that jazz. Yeah, Let me.
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It's been a little while, Trey, since I've had to apologize and
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I'm going to go and do it. And no one really cares.
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And I don't think this person listens to the show, considering
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they're pretty famous. You never know.
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Never know, you got to be careful.
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A couple episodes ago, Trey and I talked about, I believe it was
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called Pabhara Breve. Something along those lines
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filled with three q's. Right, two r's and Oh yeah, the
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odd silent Italian cue. There we go.
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And it makes sense. So in Italy they had that
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groping. You remember the 10 second?
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Oh, absolutely. So I had mentioned that the
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actor I said actress in White Lotus Paulo Camilli.
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Well, it's actually a man, a very, a very manly man and I
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just the the article had a picture of a woman and I I just
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mix it up. So in case, Paulo.
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I was listening. I apologize for calling you a
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woman. So we thought a woman's name was
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Paulo. I think I even said like, this
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is OK. I guess that's pretty masculine.
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For a woman this day and age, right?
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I thought, OK, whatever, I guess it's possible.
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So there's my apology for the evening.
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Not that big of a deal, but again, I always want to get my
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facts straight, including the gender slash sex of a actor I
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feel. I feel better about that one.
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I don't feel as as offended anymore, so I appreciate that,
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right? Man what a what a another fun
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show with Megan Antoine. Right.
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Always. I I guess I can apologize for
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getting so I I, you know, I call it tipsy to kind of cushion blow
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but I think I I might have been a little drunk there by the end
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of the show. But I you just never anticipate.
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I mean the first time we we got them in here, we were 2 1/2
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hours and now this was almost 3 1/2 hours and you just kind of,
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you know some people say well Ryan, you still talk quite a bit
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when they're in here and I, but. I don't think I talk as much.
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And so during those moments of listening, I'm taking sips,
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sucking down more alcohol. Yeah.
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So either I need to change the alcohol.
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To a lower alcohol level or. I need to mix it with water or I
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need to drink just water? What do you think?
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That was like a plan, yeah. Yeah, I'm going to try and and
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work on that when we have guests.
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I just like to have fun, Trey. That's all it is.
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We all like to have fun, I think.
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But. How are you?
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Can't complain, Yeah. Are you doing all of your usual?
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Your biking? You're working out, man.
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I'm trying to stay active, you know, So it's a, it's a daily
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grind. I've keep, you know, trying
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different supplements and trying different things to make me feel
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young and make me feel like, you know, I can go do another
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workout, actually try to a pre workout for the first time.
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And I have a pre workout, pre workout and so it's a powder of
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course, and it's actually endorsed or owned, I should say
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by Arnold Schwarzenegger. So I get my daily motivational
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speech from him. So I saw that on there.
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But it's also he's part owner of this particular product which,
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you know, thinking preworkout. I guess there's no two better
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people to endorse it when it comes to preworkout than Arnold
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Schwarzenegger and actually LeBron James.
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So I mean, he's in great shape for his age, you know, So it's
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like, well, if anybody's going to endorse it, at least it's
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somebody actually in decent shape, so.
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Well, I don't. Is Arnold paying us to promote?
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I don't know. We need to reach out because
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that was a quite the promotion you just gave.
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You're welcome, Arnold. Good.
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Old Arnold and LeBron you look I you know and no one can argue
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Lebron's talent. I just some he said some shit
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and he just kind of his the whole.
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I'm the king and he throws up the powder or whatever that is.
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Yeah, I just not this guy. I'm a Jordan guy and even a Kobe
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guy. I think over LeBron.
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What do you think? Who are your top three?
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Top three, actually. Or, I mean, I guess you got to
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put Akeem and not Akeem. Kareem.
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Abdul Jabbar Kareem Will. Honestly, I really was a huge
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Shack fan. Yeah.
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Yeah, he's got to be up there. I think if he would have stayed
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in shape he would have been probably up there at the top I.
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Just don't think Le Bron is the far and away competitor to
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Michael Jordan. Yeah, that They're all kind of
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do their thing. You can't start to compare a
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power forward to a shooting guard.
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Well, and I hate to say it, I mean, you know, he didn't get
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the publicity he probably should have, but even like a Tim
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Duncan, you know, and I'd. You know how much I hate to say
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that. No, you don't love Timmy and I I
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do. He was my boy.
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But the numbers speak for, you know.
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Yeah, so, so, but good for Le Bron and Arnold and they're
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doing this together, yeah. And they're in the in business
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together for on this particular product.
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So it's a whole. Line of different things.
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Your muscles start popping. Well I tell you what I was
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really dragging ass earlier and I this pre worker out and I'm
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I'm running on pre workout right now so well good let's enjoy
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this ride so so I may pass out. All the sudden it really kicks
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in. You're just like and then all
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the sudden you pass, I'll paint the house and then fall asleep,
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so. Okay, Well, good.
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Another quick update for you, my esteemed cohost.
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We are, we're having A and I and I just don't, I don't like to
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brag, but we're having a really, really solid month compared to,
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you know, this is only month #4, but we're having a fantastic
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month. And did you know that we have 56
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countries? Wow, that have.
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Listened at some point and you know I get it.
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Summer VPNs I get it. Shut up.
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Just let us enjoy this. Shut up.
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But the bottom line is that not all of them are and even if you
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take a few of those countries away that's still pretty
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impressive. And to me it's, it's been really
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neat to watch and some of these have risen and and some of the
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promos we've been doing with other companies that I've been
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working, we've been working with and.
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So, so a lot of it's legit, it's 29% of the countries out there
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have tuned in at some point. Likewise, the number of states
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in this country. Do you know how many states
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there are? Right?
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Maybe. We have 40.
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Three of the 50? Wow. 86% of the states have
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clicked in and only a couple of them are one or two listens that
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only a couple are one or two. Most of them have enough to not
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be considered, maybe VPN users or whatever, but it's pretty
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cool. I wonder if these people are
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using the VPN because they're embarrassed to show where
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they're listening from. I don't know or they don't want
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to be found. Out it's.
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It's just a security thing and it just doesn't.
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It can't that way. Doesn't track you back or
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whatever, but they don't. They don't want anybody to know
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that they listen to stay in the. Grain that might be the same,
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but the gentleman that explained tried to explain it to me as
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well as he could. It was just mentioning that it's
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just security thing. Every quote.
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Everybody should be using it, but I guarantee you there aren't
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that many people using it, so. It's cool to see and those are
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the updates. Keep it going.
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Let's keep it rolling. Maybe they're all from East
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Texas. And they're just all using VPN
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around the world. I'd be quite a few.
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We'd have all of East Texas if that was the case, like
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everybody in East Texas. So Ryan, let me ask you this.
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I've actually got a couple questions here for.
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You But all right, this one jumped out at me because I know
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as a bagpipe player. Well, I try my best try.
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Did you know that it's a myth that they're actually Scottish?
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Shut up. I'm not listening to that.
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Someone tried to tell me that before I knew you'd get butt
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hurt of that. All right.
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I'll take a deep breath and try and listen to you.
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Remember, we stay in the grain, but they're actually from the
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Middle East really, and that's where they originated from now,
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it says. The Scottish people did,
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however, develop their own style of bagpipes and bagpipe playing.
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They just weren't the 1st. Like to actually maybe use a bag
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itself or something like that? The air that's in a bag through
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the pipes, No, I just wanted to check your butt about it in a
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little bit, so especially being from the.
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Middle East? Well, it did.
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I'm sitting here going, well, I've never heard that.
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I've heard, like other places had instruments that were
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similar, but I hadn't heard that about the Middle East.
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That's interesting. Yeah, if anybody doesn't know, I
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picked them up and tried to learn them for my wedding to
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play. You did well, though.
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Well, I played a Journey song with the house band at the
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party. It was okay.
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It was fun. It was something that now I know
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how to play them. I just haven't.
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It's hard to practice. What do you practice at?
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Yeah. And now I have a house.
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But if you're not coming to my place to play.
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I'm gonna say I'm gonna practice here.
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My kids taking a nap and blare the bagpipes.
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Yeah, wake it and wake them up. So but that was definitely be
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pissed about. That that was a fun fact.
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Thank you. I want to go ahead and have to
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research that now. But we're leaving on our African
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adventure. Yes.
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And for those of you that listen to this show, we've.
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We've talked quite a bit about it over over the IT is at the
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end of July and here it is. Our trip has arrived.
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Our Koro, our guide who originally emailed us, really
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was just informing Trey that he was what it what would be
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Nigerian royalty, Nigerian Prince in my in my family?
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That's right. And so you're due some money and
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you think that he's just kind of waiting until we get there.
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Maybe it maybe it's a lot less of a hassle just to give it to
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me there. I think so.
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I have to bring it back, you know.
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Yeah, he he didn't want to. He didn't want to ship it.
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He wanted to be responsible, make sure it doesn't get lost in
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the mail. It doesn't.
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It won't be shady at all if it's cash in a briefcase.
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And as long as you have, we have our our, our trip money that he
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made us promise to have, right $10.
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So we'll see what happens with that and but we're meeting up
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with him and he emailed us some final instructions, very
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specific instructions on on where to go and who to meet and
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what plane to get on and and which parachute person.
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Again, that makes me nervous. Who's packing those parachutes?
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I don't know. I don't know.
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But I I can't. There's no reason to not trust
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Akoro and Chiambi. That's true.
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And they're meeting us to They're going to meet us.
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We're going to spend a little time in Nigeria and then we're
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going to head down to the Congo, right.
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That was our meeting point for chiambi and koro and and by the,
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you know, I, I don't want to jinx it, but by the looks of it,
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our African, the word has gotten out because our listens over
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there are skyrocketing. Yeah, Ghana, we have Zambia,
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zombie Zambia. Is that how you pronounce?
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Is that the land of the zombies? Yes, true.
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It's got to be, right. Yeah.
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And I mean, we can, we can practice our.
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Zombie survival that we Yes, that makes sense.
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You're looking at what are the. There's so many.
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Mauritania, I believe is a okay. Africa S Africa's gotten in
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there. Kenya.
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I've summered there before. Tunisia.
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Senegal. All of these have tuned into the
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podcast. Wow.
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And of course, Nigeria has just spiked.
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So, so corro spread. Corro in Jiambi or yeah, am I
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saying Jiambi like that old catcher?
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Or the 1st baseman? Jason Jiambi?
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Jason Jiambi. He's in Africa now.
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Just like, Yes. Why don't you be him?
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He's like he's an ambassador. That jiambi no.
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This is spelled Ch. So chiambi chiambi.
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And so we're meeting in the Congo and I started thinking
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about. Yeah, So I was looking up stuff
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to do and in the Congo because I wondered about our outfits and I
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think we, I think we're OK. I think so.
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From what we got and bright and colorful and but it also blends
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in at the same time. It's kind of like we're there
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but we're not. It's not total camo but it's
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close. You'll see.
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We're gonna don't worry everybody, you'll see some
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pictures. Hopefully they have good
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Internet service there in the Congo, so we can post.
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We want to do plenty of plenty of social media while we're
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there. And what else are we going to do
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at night except they are saying there are some night walks
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available that they will take us.
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That sounds fun. Which I don't know how I feel
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about that. I started thinking I was like
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immediately. I was like, no, no, we would
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die. You and me die easy.
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We've got to take advantage of the full experience.
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Yeah, well, I OK, I started thinking maybe that was the case
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and then they said like, OK, you know, you can see the.
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Palm Civets, and I don't know what that is, a palm civet.
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Saw a Palm Civet. Is that like a tree?
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No, that's an animal in a galago.
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A galago. Galago.
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Sounds like a video of galago. An Italian.
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What is that? No, these are, these are a lot
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of, these are little primate mammal things.
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And I looked these up and I was like, and I'm looking at them
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right now and they have the biggest eyes I've ever seen.
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Oh yeah. And it's because they're of
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course, nocturnal. That's why they're available on
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these walks. All the other animals are
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sleeping soundly. And so these two mainly.
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And then they talk about fireflies.
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Well, you can see that here, just because they're they're,
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they're called flickering giant fireflies, and I'm sure they're
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giant fireflies. How big?
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I don't know what is that considered giant.
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That's what I'm saying. I couldn't see on the picture.
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It look like normal fire. It's like 6 foot three, 280
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pound walks out. He's glowing.
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He's got like, a light bulb. What's up, bitches?
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Yeah. But so we might do some night
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walks, but when we're not on the night walks, we are going to
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look for some social media interaction with the Wi-Fi
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service. Sounds like we're going to do
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some night runs. Especially if these little
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things are coming at me. They're the they look kind of
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cute and tiny. But if this if these eyes at
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night started running straight at me, I'm getting the fuck out
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started crawling at you. And so I started looking at the
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Congo and it turns out, Trey, I feel like such an idiot all the
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time. Or just.
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Just, well, most, I mean, mainly right now I'm thinking, I mean
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we can talk about other times too, if you want, but right now
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let's talk about this time. Did you know that I was calling
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it? I believe I was calling it the
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Democratic Republic of Congo. Are they actually know if I said
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that or no, that doesn't make sense.
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Never mind. Cut that out.
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And I don't know if if I feel like I was calling the, I'm
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calling it correctly, the Democratic Republic of China,
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maybe? Which I think is the correct
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terminology for it. I don't.
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The bottom line is that that Koro made sure that I knew that
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I had made a mistake and that it's just the Democratic
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Republic of Congo. It's not.
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No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
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It's just the Republic of Congo. Gotcha.
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No, democratic. They're not very democratic
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about anything. And it's also known as Congo
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Brazzaville. You know, just need to know
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these things before we go over there.
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And it is a huge rainforest. No shit.
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Yeah, right. Like, I felt like an idiot, I
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thought. All right, Well, here we are.
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You know, getting ready for the desert.
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Same castle. Trees and then just the Nile,
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but apparently I don't think the Nile.
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Goes through this area? Well, that's some bullshit.
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I know we need to. Well, we'll ask.
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I'll ask a coral where? How we can get there.
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Because we need at least a day. I brought it to lay out on the
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night. I had a special swimsuit for
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that. Well, apparently this rainforest
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also has some rivers that go through it, so we wouldn't lay
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down the banks again, I'm sure that.
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Yeah, the animals may be a little bit nicer in the
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rainforest. That makes sense.
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It's covered up a lot. Cooler maybe?
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I had no idea that they call this the Congo Basin rainforest.
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They call it green lungs, and I had no idea.
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So this is historic shit that we're going to see well.
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Absolutely. And we'll have no problem
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breathing, right? I know as we run away, we won't
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run out. All of a sudden I've been
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running for 37 minutes and I'm not even, I'm not tired.
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Everything's good. I had no idea.
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So I feel and I'm excited because now all of a sudden
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they're saying in these forests there are gorillas.
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Of course. Great.
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Look forward to meeting some gorillas, forest elephants.
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And I said. What are forest elephants versus
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like regular? They better at climbing trees
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and stuff. What is that?
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I don't know. Do elephants, Can these
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elephants climb the trees, shit out?
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Are they the little bitty, tiny ones that are like dog dog sized
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elephants? That makes sense.
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That makes more sense. Right.
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Yeah, I think maybe that's them. Yeah.
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We can still ride them, though. I think that'd be pretty fun.
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That would be funny. Yeah.
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Yeah. I don't know.
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I need to look and see what a forest elephant is.
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But did you know there are Buffalo in the rainforest?
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Really. Yeah.
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Actual Buffalo. OK.
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And hippos, of course. Those hippos.
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Those cute little friendly hippos that are ever rolled
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around with you and stuff. And an extremely rare bongo
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antelope A bongo antelope. So they're very musical, I.
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Guess I played the bongo. I don't know what the name find
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out is. And so and 100 other mammal
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species. Are in the rainforest.
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Sounds pretty busy and including a bunch of birds, there's an
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African Gray parrot, which I thought applied to us an African
00:19:03
Gray parrot. Stayed Gray.
00:19:05
I thought that might apply. Have to bring a shirt for that
00:19:07
one. Yeah, yeah, Throw, yeah, toss on
00:19:09
my tshirt and then you've got a great blue torocco.
00:19:13
I think I had one of those in in Cancun one time.
00:19:17
A drink? And then the rest of them are
00:19:25
like really pretty blue. Is it cocktail?
00:19:19
And I'm looking at it now. And they they've got these big
00:19:22
black Mohawks. So I'm, I'm kind of excited to
00:19:27
see these guys. That's Toronto's.
00:19:30
And then you've got the giant Kingfisher, which is another
00:19:34
bird, and he. He's a weird looking.
00:19:37
He's a little tiny guy and he's got he's got spikes on his to
00:19:40
do. But his beak looks like he could
00:19:41
do some damage. Yeah, like he's a little bitty.
00:19:44
If he didn't have that beak, he'd be the cutest bird ever.
00:19:46
Now he looks like the most dangerous bird.
00:19:47
Stay away from him. It looks like the the garfish.
00:19:50
Oh shit, you know how it's a fish?
00:19:52
But then it just got the beak. Well, this kind of looks like
00:19:54
that. If he crashed into you, his beak
00:19:56
would go through your nose. Oh, that's not fun.
00:19:59
Yeah, so let's just you know what?
00:20:01
I'm good without these guys. Let's avoid the Kingfishers.
00:20:04
And then there is a very rare picothardis.
00:20:07
Picothardis. You know what that is?
00:20:09
I've read about those. That's another bird.
00:20:11
So. And they're pretty cool looking.
00:20:13
They're kind of weird, just something you don't see a lot.
00:20:15
Of land on your shoulder? Take a picture with I imagine
00:20:18
they'll take some selfies with this.
00:20:20
And the last thing that Coral actually mentioned here for the
00:20:23
Congo is that they have small villages throughout that
00:20:28
welcome. They welcome tourists.
00:20:30
Interesting they they want tourists to have authentic
00:20:33
experiences in those villages. That's cool.
00:20:36
Yeah, right. I thought if anybody's going to
00:20:38
do that, it's us. Absolutely.
00:20:40
He mentioned like, hey, they if anybody would be invited, it'd
00:20:45
be us. They're really excited about it.
00:20:47
And so they said that they would make us authentic Congo in or
00:20:52
Congo in. I don't know how to say it
00:20:55
cuisine interesting, so we may not.
00:20:58
Have there. We're gonna have like wings.
00:21:00
Have stuff or no? What if we got there's a spread
00:21:03
of wings? Yeah, it's Buffalo wings.
00:21:05
The spicy ones are over there. There's some alligator Nuggets.
00:21:09
Yeah. What is it gonna be, some tiger
00:21:12
fries? I don't know, cuz guess what?
00:21:14
We're not gonna get Whataburger. We're not gonna get pizza.
00:21:17
No, Panda Express. I don't think Panda Express is
00:21:19
over there, so we're gonna have to just basically trust these
00:21:23
locals and see what they give us.
00:21:24
So do. We find out what we're eating
00:21:26
first. Or do we eat it and then find
00:21:28
out later? I don't know.
00:21:29
I don't know if there's a preset menu or if they I mean.
00:21:31
Which route would you rather go? Would you rather go ahead and
00:21:34
eat it before you know what it is?
00:21:36
I don't know. Cuz I think I would rather eat
00:21:38
it, don't you think? Before I know what it is, cuz I
00:21:40
probably won't eat it if I know what it is.
00:21:43
Well, I definitely won't eat it if I know what it is.
00:21:45
And that's the problem. So I think maybe you're right.
00:21:47
I think we need to to go ahead and do that.
00:21:50
It is. It is going to be an adventure
00:21:51
to say the least. So yeah, we're looking forward
00:21:54
to. I can't wait to see the
00:21:55
pictures. We're going to head out.
00:21:56
It only is only supposed to take 2 1/2 days travel to get to our
00:22:00
final destination. We have like 4-4 flights and
00:22:05
then we get on 2 buses, 2 bus. I think we get on a riverboat.
00:22:09
Oh, so maybe that's maybe when? He said.
00:22:12
Maybe we do hit down the Nile on that.
00:22:14
Wonderful. See any anacondas or anything?
00:22:17
Yeah. Is that the wrong.
00:22:18
I think there's like an Anaconda petting zoo off to the side of
00:22:20
the Nile that I that I heard. I'm not sure.
00:22:25
I don't know how, how. I don't know how much business
00:22:28
it's received. Recently they he mentioned they
00:22:30
were having some financial woes. Can you imagine going down
00:22:34
something like that and you see this poor guy hanging from a
00:22:37
tree? Just keep going, guys.
00:22:40
Yeah, that was the that's the Anaconda petting zoo over there.
00:22:43
Yeah, we'll just keep going. We're good.
00:22:46
So yeah, in about 2 1/2 days we should be there.
00:22:49
And and like I said, I'm assuming some of these villages
00:22:52
have great Wi-Fi and we'll, we'll update, we'll update you
00:22:54
guys. I do remember this little Side
00:22:56
Story. We were in Belize and we were
00:22:58
doing one of these Little River tours and they did actually.
00:23:02
It was a waterfall tour. Anyway, so we're going down the
00:23:04
river. We happen to look up, we see a
00:23:06
little crocodile head pop up out of the river.
00:23:08
So I go, OK, cool. Yeah, crocodile.
00:23:10
I swear to God, we got about another 20 feet down and there's
00:23:13
a a swing that you can swing out over the water and the guys
00:23:17
like, hey, do you guys want to swing?
00:23:19
Hell no. Yeah, yeah.
00:23:21
Not only, no, but. Pass a crocodile?
00:23:23
No. Hell no.
00:23:24
Yeah. Did you see?
00:23:25
You're like pointing back. Did you remember that shit?
00:23:28
That. Yeah.
00:23:28
So anyway, yeah, that was. That's pretty funny.
00:23:30
I didn't know you saw. I went to Belize.
00:23:33
Yeah, Belize. Cool.
00:23:34
So that was a fun trip. All right.
00:23:36
Well, I can't wait to update you guys And and some pictures.
00:23:38
And I I think if there are two guys that are the least
00:23:42
qualified to go on this trip, it's us.
00:23:44
It's gotta be us, but we are going to fight through, right?
00:23:49
Should be interesting, but I do think we have probably a couple
00:23:51
of the best guides that are available.
00:23:53
Gotta hope so. I think I could hear a choral
00:23:57
laughing as he typed. We'll see you in a couple days,
00:23:59
right? We'll see now.
00:24:02
You know, I, I, I know here it's staying in the grey.
00:24:04
We have a really, really solid ability to transition from one
00:24:10
topic to another and have them have absolutely no nothing that
00:24:15
reconnects the. 2 I want to talk about.
00:24:20
Our specialty, just if someone's still listening, going, alright,
00:24:23
well, this is good. This is kind of funny.
00:24:25
I would listen to this and then all the sudden we're going to
00:24:27
take you somewhere that just it's not funny.
00:24:29
It has nothing to do with this. It's an actual intense kind of
00:24:33
story. But Tre and I were talking about
00:24:36
this. Before the show and it's just
00:24:37
like I debated bringing it up because we've talked about this
00:24:41
topic quite a bit and I don't want to like overdo it and I
00:24:45
really would like to have somebody that's experienced it
00:24:49
to come on and share it with us. Unfortunately, I don't know
00:24:54
anybody yet and I'm hoping to hopefully meet somebody that
00:24:58
will and it's. More talk about transgender
00:25:03
situations and I don't know how popular the story was Trey but
00:25:09
in North Carolina there is a young woman, and I'll say kid
00:25:15
because she was 15 when she kind of started thinking differently
00:25:19
and her name is Prisha Mosley. So PRISHA Prisha Mosley.
00:25:28
And she was 15 when she kind of started going.
00:25:31
I don't feel I've got anxiety. I'm stressed.
00:25:34
I'm I'm not stressed, but I just, I don't feel good if this
00:25:38
ever. And something feels off if
00:25:40
something's off and she knew she had mental struggles and instead
00:25:45
of you know maybe getting help she kind of latched onto this
00:25:51
idea that if she was actually a boy that it would solve all
00:25:55
these things. She thought maybe it was women
00:25:57
problems or. Maybe she's in the wrong body,
00:26:01
maybe she's in the wrong body, but more so.
00:26:02
Just like, I don't like being a girl because I'm feeling so bad.
00:26:06
I've got pain in my shoulders all the time.
00:26:08
I've got this, you know, maybe here.
00:26:11
I think she said she was having menstrual stuff at 15 when she,
00:26:14
you know, probably a little younger than that when she went
00:26:17
through puberty. And you know, all these things
00:26:18
about being a girl, we're making her physically uncomfortable.
00:26:22
Interesting. That's so, she thought so.
00:26:23
She wanted to be a boy. And then she kind of latched
00:26:26
onto that idea and she said, all right, well, maybe, you know, I
00:26:28
want to do this. And so when she was 17.
00:26:30
She talked to a couple of doctors, and these weren't
00:26:33
psychologists or psychiatrists. They were medical doctors, just
00:26:37
doctors. And they had, you know, little.
00:26:39
One of them was, I think a dermatologist, actually a skin
00:26:42
doctor, and one of them was just regular, regular what a foot
00:26:48
doctor, foot doctor is. That a podiatrist?
00:26:51
Yeah, podiatrist. Yeah, What should be some, like,
00:26:54
just ridiculous. So.
00:26:55
She went to a dentist and a podiatrist to see what's going
00:26:57
on. One of them was, I guess just a
00:27:00
GP, a general doctor, and and they told her that they felt
00:27:06
that she was right in thinking they wanted to support her in
00:27:10
her in transitioning her at 17. Wow.
00:27:14
So technically she's not 18. And I'm sorry, did you already
00:27:16
say what state? This was in.
00:27:17
This was in North Carolina, Okay.
00:27:19
Is that a very progressive state?
00:27:21
I, you know, I thought there was, I thought it was mostly a
00:27:24
non, honestly. I thought it was mostly a non
00:27:27
progressive if that's what you call it, more of conservative
00:27:29
state. That's what I thought.
00:27:30
It usually goes red, which is the right.
00:27:34
But again it's, you know, I think every state's got pockets
00:27:37
here and there in cities and and there's a little bit of
00:27:39
everything, a little bit of everywhere catch you.
00:27:41
That's the way I like to look at it.
00:27:43
And so they told her. They told her that if she had
00:27:48
got on hormone therapy. And had testosterone jabs, if
00:27:52
you will, that she would grow a penis.
00:27:57
This is a medical. Yeah.
00:27:58
Grow a penis. Which, which is the one of the
00:28:02
wording that this woman now is who is 25 by the way, now and.
00:28:08
So let me back up. So I've been to many medical
00:28:10
doctors to see how I can get a bigger penis.
00:28:13
But they're telling this woman. That they just take this
00:28:16
hormones and she can actually. Grow it and grow penis.
00:28:18
Maybe if you took the same hormones you would grow more
00:28:22
interesting. Yeah.
00:28:23
So maybe it's you wouldn't need to grow new when you would.
00:28:26
Just need this article. Yeah, take it out.
00:28:28
We'll ask these doctors. See what they think.
00:28:31
Carolina. Yeah, Okay, Sorry.
00:28:33
But so get this. So a year later, as soon as she
00:28:37
turned 18, she claims. And again, I'm going to try and
00:28:42
stay, you know, like we always try and do and try and see both
00:28:47
sides. And is this, there's any reason
00:28:49
for this, this woman to lie? And is she?
00:28:51
Whatever. But she's claiming that the same
00:28:53
doctor convinced her to get a double mastectomy.
00:28:57
And this is at 18, you said? She was 18 so she could do it
00:29:00
herself, that part of it. So she started feeling this way
00:29:03
in 15. She started transitioning it.
00:29:05
Transitioning with therapy, hormone therapy, testosterone
00:29:09
jobs. And those. 18.
00:29:12
Cross sex hormones, it says, and then and and double breast
00:29:16
removal after a a brief consultation saying it only
00:29:20
lasted minutes. See, and I can't being a parent
00:29:24
to a child like this, going through this you you want to be
00:29:26
supportive, but I'm kind of curious, you know, what were the
00:29:30
parents just leaving it strictly into the medical doctors hands
00:29:34
and just saying, you know what, we've got to trust in them and
00:29:37
if this is going to help our daughter out then.
00:29:40
So be it. Let's help our daughter.
00:29:43
Did they just kind of back off? Well, yeah, I mean, I'm glad you
00:29:45
jumped to it, because that was one of the first things I
00:29:47
thought was, what the fuck are the parents, right?
00:29:49
What are they doing? Second opinion?
00:29:52
Anything. Second opinion, that's what was
00:29:54
so disturbing about this is that Prisha was claiming that.
00:29:59
These consultations were, I mean, the first one, she said.
00:30:02
After about 80 total minutes, which isn't short.
00:30:05
But it's definitely not that much time spent with the patient
00:30:08
to decide that you should alter your entire life with hormone
00:30:11
therapy and and testosterone treatments and like they said
00:30:15
cross sex hormones and and all these things and they it's
00:30:18
basically like they took her on and said this is what you need
00:30:20
to do and without taking any time she said the double
00:30:24
mastectomy was just minutes she went in and.
00:30:28
We talked for five to 10 minutes or something very, very short.
00:30:31
And they said, yeah, we need to go ahead and do this And this
00:30:33
will be great. And this will be, this will
00:30:34
speed the process, this will solidify it, this will take away
00:30:37
your breasts and therefore, you know, whatever.
00:30:40
Does it say what year this was? This was around about 2015, I
00:30:45
believe, when the hormone therapy started when she was 17.
00:30:48
Got you. In 2016 was the double
00:30:50
mastectomy? So it wasn't that long ago.
00:30:52
No, it wasn't that long and she's kind of grown in, so now
00:30:54
it says that. Of these treatments and I wonder
00:30:57
why it took, you know, seven years or whatever to kind of for
00:31:00
the story to come out. And I don't know if she was
00:31:03
trying to, if she's just trying to reverse it all and it's it's
00:31:07
not happening. And so now she's But it says
00:31:10
that it left her irreversible scars.
00:31:13
Yeah, I can imagine. And then some of course mental
00:31:16
like or more not scars, but like a deep voice body and facial
00:31:22
hair. And then more pain in her neck
00:31:25
and shoulders, a damaged vagina. And then, of course, she will
00:31:30
not be able to breastfeed and maybe now infertile.
00:31:33
So did she finally maybe go to the therapist?
00:31:35
And maybe that's why it's taking us so long to come to
00:31:37
realization this wasn't the right that could have been I.
00:31:41
Think I think that you know that may be it.
00:31:43
I mean it says she, you know, her quotes are they lied by
00:31:46
omission. They didn't do this and they
00:31:48
didn't give her critical information and and she.
00:31:52
Feels that all she needed was therapy.
00:31:53
Now she's saying that in 17, from 15 to 17, she wasn't
00:31:59
getting that and she thought she she didn't know that's what she
00:32:01
needed. Now she's growing up and living
00:32:04
this way and and realizing that OK, I am a I'm a girl.
00:32:09
Like she's saying, OK, I don't, I don't feel like that anymore.
00:32:13
So you know, Fast forward beyond this story, Tray.
00:32:16
That's what we've been trying to say.
00:32:18
Is that when you're that young and 15 to 17, isn't that young?
00:32:21
I mean, when we were getting fired up, it was about, you
00:32:23
know, 13 year olds or even 11:00 and 9:00 and these crazy
00:32:27
stories, 15 to 17 and this girl only needed therapy and she's
00:32:31
turning around going obviously my whole life is jacked and and
00:32:37
and I don't want to be a boy. Does she have any animosity
00:32:40
towards her parents for not stepping in and being a little
00:32:43
bit more white? Let's let's think about this.
00:32:46
I'm with you about the parent thing.
00:32:47
I I don't know where where they were in all this.
00:32:49
If they if they were so concerned that they just kind of
00:32:51
took these doctors. I mean a lot of people do.
00:32:53
They take doctors advice and that's it.
00:32:55
That's finite. And I like to, I like to have
00:32:59
doctors I can trust because I'm not a doctor.
00:33:02
I don't know all these things. And when you have medical issues
00:33:06
or you have any kind of medical scares or you have something you
00:33:08
want to be able to confide and and be comforted.
00:33:12
By the knowledge and experience of a good doctor.
00:33:14
And nowadays it's just like, what the hell?
00:33:16
And I'm not putting any blame on the parents, but cuz I can't
00:33:19
even imagine trying to figure out what a good course of action
00:33:23
for your child is going to be. Especially when it gets to this.
00:33:26
Something this drastic, you know?
00:33:28
So it's like you want your child to feel better mentally, but you
00:33:32
know. I can't even imagine sitting
00:33:34
there going, yeah, let's do this because I'm assuming they had to
00:33:36
get the parents consent at that age.
00:33:38
Well, at 8:00. If they in fact did at 18 and my
00:33:41
under, my understanding was that it said a year.
00:33:42
Later, so I'm assuming that was 18.
00:33:45
But I mean they. Don't need her.
00:33:46
Yeah, the hormone. That all that stuff.
00:33:48
That I think would be easier for parents to say, OK, go ahead
00:33:51
because it's hormone therapy versus these big time
00:33:54
operations. Yeah.
00:33:55
And and I think that that the mastectomy, the double
00:33:58
mastectomy, I I again I couldn't.
00:34:00
Find it. But I think it was she was 18,
00:34:03
so she could have gone in there. But still, where are the
00:34:05
parents? Like like still, especially
00:34:09
while there's a year of this kind of hormone therapy going
00:34:12
on, Like are they not wondering how it's going?
00:34:15
Are they just kind of like, well, good luck and we'll be in
00:34:18
the other room. It's just it's crazy to me.
00:34:21
And again I say again, I say it all the time.
00:34:25
But again, we've talked about it.
00:34:28
It's something that somebody can't possibly know 100%, at
00:34:34
least until maybe they're a little older.
00:34:35
I mean, maybe, maybe it is 25. Maybe that's the magic age where
00:34:38
you're around 25. Isn't that the age where you
00:34:41
know? I mean, ours still haven't yet,
00:34:43
but the brains are supposed to have fully developed by 25.
00:34:47
I thought that's what. A female develops a lot quicker
00:34:50
than a male, no, but I thought it was still.
00:34:53
In the mid 20s or something like that, where it was funny,
00:34:55
finally fully developed like it. It, you know, you think things
00:35:00
are growing, everything's growing and everything's
00:35:02
developing till 20. That's what I heard and maybe
00:35:04
all I need to look that up. Honestly, I would say anything
00:35:07
before 18. I would have questioned as far
00:35:10
as do you really need all this, But once she turns 18, I mean
00:35:15
that responsibility kind of goes on her at that point.
00:35:17
Well, it does, but at the same time what I'm saying and I'm
00:35:21
going to take the opposite approach is.
00:35:24
Legally, we have it set up that yes, at 18 they can make these
00:35:28
types of decisions on their own, but I'm talking from a mental
00:35:31
standpoint and how fragile an 18 year old, how fragile they can
00:35:38
be mentally and obviously. I mean, look, she started doing
00:35:42
all this. She got, she got her boobs
00:35:43
chopped off her because doctors told her to, and now she's
00:35:47
claiming that she never really wanted that and it's just kind
00:35:49
of like they're fragile. Well, let's go at a different
00:35:51
angle, because I know you brought this story up for a
00:35:53
reason. What?
00:35:54
Didn't you say she's suing? She is.
00:35:57
She's trying to get sue and and get some financial.
00:36:00
She has a don't worry, I won't read it all, Trey.
00:36:04
It's a I think it's a 53 page complaint that she has sent in
00:36:11
and she's looking for some some financial.
00:36:16
You know, what's the what's she's looking for?
00:36:18
Some sort of a payoff. I'm saying the wrong word, but
00:36:21
you know what I'm saying, right. She's looking to some kind of
00:36:23
compensation. Compensation.
00:36:25
That's the word. Thank you.
00:36:25
I do have the masters in writing, but Trey sometimes
00:36:28
saves me. Because I you know when you look
00:36:31
at that piece of it, cuz I can understand making decisions
00:36:35
based on your mental state, thinking that it'll help you and
00:36:38
and then come to find out it doesn't but can you really go
00:36:42
back and sue a doctor for? At the age of 18, because I, you
00:36:48
know, anything before 18, okay, I get it.
00:36:50
You know, you're you're a minor and who's at fault?
00:36:53
Is it the parent? Is it the doctors?
00:36:55
But at this point, you're 18 years old.
00:36:57
You had to have signed some kind of consent saying, yes, I'm I'm,
00:37:00
I'm willing to do this based on a doctor's recommendation.
00:37:03
Can you go back and sue for something like that?
00:37:05
Well that's I mean that's a good question.
00:37:07
I don't, I don't know. I'm in.
00:37:08
I'm seeing here that by the way there was there were some
00:37:12
objections from her parents initially said.
00:37:16
That she had other problems and needed treatment.
00:37:18
I'm assuming that they meant therapy, but they were sidelined
00:37:21
from those medical decisions for whatever reason by the doctors
00:37:25
and I guess that what that means is they finally caved is my
00:37:28
thought. But what they're saying.
00:37:31
What I guess what she's saying is that she's suing because she
00:37:34
feels that the the speed and hastiness that the doctors took
00:37:39
is was a way for them to make money.
00:37:42
I mean, they're basically like, no, let's do this and and it's a
00:37:45
lot of money. I mean these these things aren't
00:37:47
this isn't cheap. This is something where the
00:37:48
doctors are definitely going to benefit financially and I think.
00:37:52
Well, I get it, but it's not like.
00:37:53
So that's what she's going for. It's not like she goes in and
00:37:56
talks to him and while she's talking to him, they put her
00:37:58
under anesthesia or what is it called, anesthesia.
00:38:01
And she didn't know what the Hell's going on.
00:38:03
I mean, I'm sure it was quick, but she had to make that
00:38:07
decision to say yes or no right at the age of 18.
00:38:10
And regardless, if we feel it's younger, not.
00:38:12
I mean that's that's considered an adult at that point, no?
00:38:15
No, you're right. I mean, legally, you know,
00:38:18
you're right. Legally she might not.
00:38:20
I mean that that may be where she's shut out of luck.
00:38:23
I mean, this is, it's a shitty situation by all means.
00:38:26
And and again, you wanna you want to think the doctor has
00:38:30
your best, you know, your best interest at hand.
00:38:32
But I mean. Yeah, Well, I just think what
00:38:35
she's saying is that if they can somehow prove that there was
00:38:37
some sort of gain. And that there was not the
00:38:41
legitimate process maybe to go to get started on these types of
00:38:45
things. Because what she's claiming is
00:38:46
that the speed of these consultations and how short of
00:38:52
time they actually spent with her before doing these types of
00:38:55
things is not the right procedure, is not the right
00:38:58
process. And they're trying to get them
00:39:00
that. They're trying to say that the
00:39:01
doctors did this wrong, regardless of what she signed.
00:39:05
So there is it more of are they saying is more of a money grab
00:39:08
type deal or more of an agenda that they had to say a little
00:39:11
bit of both, OK. That's what she's claiming is
00:39:13
that it's a money grab and it was to enhance their reputation
00:39:18
and in that in that for that industry and.
00:39:20
OK, with that demographic? Demographic.
00:39:22
You know, maybe they want to be known as this.
00:39:24
I mean, it could be a number of reasons, but the bottom line is
00:39:27
that they took advantage. Her point is they took advantage
00:39:29
of a young girl and apparently some freaking parents that just.
00:39:34
Didn't they just? I don't know.
00:39:36
I want to know more about the parents.
00:39:38
That was one of your first. Well, reactions.
00:39:41
You know, I can't even imagine having to make a decision for
00:39:44
your child, especially these days when these kids are so.
00:39:48
I mean, you know how you were at 15 or 16.
00:39:50
Your parents didn't know shit. You know?
00:39:53
That's how you were. You knew everything at that age
00:39:56
and your parents didn't know anything.
00:39:58
So you have to wonder if if somebody's going through this
00:40:00
kind of mental anguish and they think, okay, this is what's
00:40:03
going to fix it. Mom and dad, I don't give a shit
00:40:05
what you say. I need you to do this for me.
00:40:07
You know what point you know that?
00:40:09
Do they say okay? Yes.
00:40:10
Let's let's let's get you fixed. Let's, let's do what we need to
00:40:13
do. And I guess the hormone therapy,
00:40:16
like you said, is it is that drastic?
00:40:19
I don't know. But when she's 18, like she
00:40:22
didn't, she'd have a double mastectomy at 15.
00:40:24
You know, then we'd like, OK, what the fuck?
00:40:26
Where are the parents at on that?
00:40:27
You know, she's an adult at 18. You know, no matter how hasty it
00:40:31
is, at that point, she had to sign something.
00:40:33
No, no. Again I agree on it.
00:40:35
From a legal standpoint that's fine and she may be shout out
00:40:38
luck because of that. But at the same time, my my
00:40:42
problem is that at 18, she just do you remember what we were
00:40:48
like at 18? I mean, my parents didn't know
00:40:51
that they weren't right. I knew everything.
00:40:53
I know, but that's that's the point is I don't think that.
00:40:56
I don't think this is the same situation.
00:40:57
I don't think she wanted to make decisions.
00:40:59
From what it sounds like, it was like she wanted help.
00:41:03
She just wanted help and that the help that she's claiming she
00:41:06
got were two doctors that forced her into this.
00:41:09
And it says that she's joins a growing list of young people who
00:41:14
undergo irreversible transmedical procedures.
00:41:18
But who regret them and sue the doctors and therapists who say
00:41:21
they fast track them onto drugs and surgery.
00:41:24
And so yes, you're right if they sign something and whatever, but
00:41:27
if you're getting fast tracked in, what do you call it?
00:41:31
Malpractice. I mean, if they're viewing it as
00:41:32
malpractice, I get what you're saying, but there's just
00:41:36
probably so many more details that we don't know exactly what
00:41:39
was signed and things like that. I just.
00:41:41
I brought it up tonight because I'm just.
00:41:44
I'm tired of saying this and saying it over and over and over
00:41:47
and people going, you know, come on, what's the big deal?
00:41:49
You know, if that's how they feel and that makes them happy.
00:41:52
They don't know shit when they're young, when they're
00:41:54
kids, you just don't. And there it's a growing list of
00:41:59
young people is what this and I, and that's what I've been
00:42:01
saying, is that it's more than you think.
00:42:04
And people are out there making these, these just rash decisions
00:42:08
and then they're going, uh, Oh, my penis is gone.
00:42:13
Well, and maybe, maybe this is a little farfetched to say
00:42:17
something like this, but I guess at one point, do you just have
00:42:21
to live with the decision you made?
00:42:22
I mean, it's just like I went and got a tattoo.
00:42:25
Now I changed my mind. Do I go through the tattoo
00:42:27
artist for not talking me out of it, you know?
00:42:30
That's true. That's why they have the same
00:42:32
age 18. You can't go without, you know.
00:42:34
So I mean there's there's different stuff that I get it,
00:42:39
you know. And why wasn't a therapist, you
00:42:43
know, why wouldn't she pushed it to therapy before it was to
00:42:46
these medical doctors? I guess would would have been my
00:42:49
only question with the parents as far as that's concerned.
00:42:53
But at some point you got it. You got to be responsible for
00:42:57
this decision you make. It's at some point, you know you
00:43:01
can't. At some point.
00:43:02
But what point is that? Everybody's a little bit
00:43:03
different. I think that's that's where I'm
00:43:05
kind of going. I just hate to.
00:43:08
I hate to put this on her 18. Yeah, if these doctors spent
00:43:13
more time with her, if she maybe had a year or two of actual just
00:43:17
therapy and they come to that decision together, well, and we
00:43:21
don't know what kind of demeanor she had.
00:43:23
I mean, does the doctor sit there and say, okay, I know
00:43:25
you're 18, but you seem a little bit more fragile as an 18 year
00:43:28
old. So we're gonna back off of this.
00:43:31
You know they they don't know how, you know what kind of
00:43:33
mental state they and she's in. I mean, did she come in frail
00:43:37
and not knowing what the Hell's going on And then doctors like.
00:43:39
Yep, let's do this. Or do what she very adamant
00:43:42
about. You know what?
00:43:43
I feel like I need to make this change.
00:43:44
OK, well, let's let's go ahead and get you prepped and get you
00:43:47
taken care of. Sign this paperwork.
00:43:49
You know, take her into the next room, you know 5 minutes later.
00:43:52
But that's that's the point, is that as a doctor, as a medical
00:43:56
professional, as somebody who's taking this young child into
00:43:59
adulthood. Maybe you shouldn't be quite as
00:44:03
OK, whatever she seems. OK, let's do it.
00:44:05
I mean that's again, I'm just playing this side of it and
00:44:07
you're playing that side of it. I'm just, I just feel like it's
00:44:10
not as quick of a 80 minute conversation And then and then,
00:44:14
all right, let's go take your shirt off.
00:44:16
Well, let's play devil's advocate a little bit too.
00:44:18
We don't. We weren't in the room.
00:44:19
How adamant was she when she was in there?
00:44:21
Well, that's true. I mean, that would be the only
00:44:24
they'll be. The only way I would say it was
00:44:26
justified on the doctor's end is if she's full of shit.
00:44:29
You know what she's saying. And in fact she was in there 18.
00:44:33
Go and do this right now. I'll sign it.
00:44:34
I'll sign whatever you want. I know for 100% fact this is
00:44:37
what I want. Maybe she lied.
00:44:39
Maybe she told him she had been talking to the therapist.
00:44:42
Or maybe she had, you know, the the hormone therapy was probably
00:44:45
working to a point. She was probably growing some
00:44:46
facial hair, somebody hair, because I'm hoping because think
00:44:50
about it on this side. She still never grew that penis,
00:44:52
so neither am I. But I'm hoping that she
00:44:57
understands what she's doing, cuz if this is legit, she, you
00:45:00
know, she was railroaded into doing something that maybe she
00:45:04
wasn't fully on board with and now she's wanting some type of
00:45:08
compensation for all the damage that's been done to her body.
00:45:10
I get that, but if this is a money grab for her.
00:45:14
You mean money grab on her end? Think about it.
00:45:17
Sure. If this is a money grab on her.
00:45:18
I thought you meant the doctors before.
00:45:20
How much damage could that do to people that are ready to make
00:45:24
that decision? And doctors are like, let's wait
00:45:27
another year, let's well, let's wait another year.
00:45:30
Well, and the next thing you know, they're not able to get
00:45:32
the surgeries that they're ready for because these doctors just
00:45:36
got sued and for doing something that they thought was something
00:45:40
that this girl really did want. So, right.
00:45:43
So I'd be curious to see how this all plays out.
00:45:46
But. Yeah, I mean, the money grab
00:45:50
thing was kind of the last part of what I was gonna say.
00:45:52
I mean, the bottom line is we're taking, we're reading this and
00:45:55
we're going over this and we're taking this girl or this woman's
00:46:02
word for it, right? She's telling us this is what
00:46:05
happened. This is what happened.
00:46:06
And we're going, oh, and I'm and I'm sitting here and I'm, I'm
00:46:08
guilty of it. I'm like, oh, how that's
00:46:10
bullshit. She's so young and it very well
00:46:14
could be two innocent doctors that just kind of did what they
00:46:18
thought they should do. We we're going to be open and
00:46:21
we're going to respect people that want to make this decision.
00:46:24
And this girl is now a woman at 18 like you said it did.
00:46:30
Was there any comments by the doctor in this article or?
00:46:32
No, they they they refused to talk to this publication.
00:46:36
So gotcha again. It might be one of those things.
00:46:39
It says, you know, there's a survey which is always
00:46:42
interesting and they were, they tried to do it across a
00:46:46
combination of what they say, you know, red and blue states if
00:46:49
if you will. And they found that most were
00:46:52
large. Most Americans are largely
00:46:53
against gender affirming procedures for children.
00:46:56
Well, good. 61% rejected giving puberty blockers to 12 year
00:47:02
olds. That seems low 61% that's it, 12
00:47:06
year olds, while 21% said it was acceptable to. 12 year olds, 12
00:47:10
year olds, puberty blockers, which I guess is was
00:47:14
self-explanatory and to where it makes maybe makes it easier to
00:47:17
transition if you don't go through.
00:47:19
That process as a as one or the other.
00:47:22
They also deemed cross sex hormones and breast surgeries
00:47:25
unacceptable by similar margins. So it's still surprising 21%.
00:47:30
It seems like a lot of people are like, yeah, kids, whatever.
00:47:33
So I guess my last question here too is her.
00:47:36
Her main complaint is the hastiness that the decisions
00:47:39
were made, not so much as they didn't butcher her body.
00:47:43
Like the surgeries I'm assuming were well done even though maybe
00:47:47
she wish she hadn't done it. But did they least?
00:47:50
I mean, do the surgeries to where they were nice, neat, and?
00:47:55
Well, I mean, she's claiming. I mean, I don't think it
00:47:57
matters. I mean, I think she's claiming,
00:47:58
she's just claiming flat out that they, you know, you, I read
00:48:02
it, you know, her vagina is all messed up her.
00:48:06
She has no more breasts. She has.
00:48:08
I mean, she's viewing these as irreversible scars.
00:48:12
Well, yeah, I mean. Which they are technically.
00:48:15
And and she's having a hard time.
00:48:17
And I don't mean to chuckle, but she's having a really hard time
00:48:19
getting rid of her body hair. She is what she said.
00:48:22
So I guess hastiness. The decisions are made.
00:48:24
So is there a timetable then? Because I've never heard of a
00:48:28
timetable and to make these decisions in SO that's a.
00:48:31
Good point. I think there should be.
00:48:35
Well, how do you decide how long is a good amount of time?
00:48:37
Where's the line? I mean, I I'm sitting here in my
00:48:39
head when you were talking earlier about that in 17 being
00:48:42
18 and signing it. I'm sitting here going, I think
00:48:45
that, you know, hormone therapy, okay, that's one thing.
00:48:50
And it's, it's a little different than having these
00:48:52
actual procedures, right. So start there, see how you
00:48:55
feel. And maybe, you know, maybe
00:48:57
somebody will go, OK, you know, mom, this isn't.
00:49:00
No, no, it may. Or maybe the other way, which is
00:49:03
OK, great. This is exactly what I wanted.
00:49:05
And then while you're on this hormone therapy, here's a
00:49:07
therapist. You talk to, talk to while
00:49:09
you're going through it. Because it isn't.
00:49:11
It isn't something that simple, right?
00:49:13
It's not. It's not normal either.
00:49:14
No matter what people don't like to say, it's.
00:49:16
You know what's normal and not, but it isn't normal.
00:49:19
It's it's very, very, very low percentage, very low percentage.
00:49:23
And so have a therapist be willing to say, all right, well,
00:49:27
I'm about to make huge decision. So, you know, three years or
00:49:32
five years or something like that, I don't know.
00:49:34
And again, people then go who are you to make that call and
00:49:38
who is the government to make that call?
00:49:39
So it's a very, very. Tough spot.
00:49:42
And I think that's why they said, all right, you're 18, you
00:49:43
know, whatever you want. Same with tattoos, Same with
00:49:46
buying. 18 is what cigarettes, 21, alcohol.
00:49:49
And they have these these laws that basically when you're of
00:49:54
age these these places are let off the hook.
00:49:57
And so I'm curious how this ends up.
00:49:59
I wonder if she's going to, Yeah.
00:50:00
Who's going to win this thing? And so I'm going to, I'm going
00:50:01
to try and keep an eye on it. And I know we say all the time
00:50:03
we'll do some follow it. But God, you know, so many
00:50:05
stories go on here and then you look and there's nothing.
00:50:08
I think it's like they tell you to keep reading and then there's
00:50:11
nothing. But because my my exwife was
00:50:13
very much about let's hold off on the medications and let's not
00:50:17
medicate ourself and this kind of stuff like that, because I I
00:50:20
went and saw it. There, that's not fun.
00:50:22
Well, and I I wouldn't saw a therapist before we got a
00:50:24
divorce. And you know, I was kind of
00:50:27
telling him based on. That for the first time, the
00:50:29
second time no. No, no, I mean the the first
00:50:32
time you saw a therapist was at this point.
00:50:34
No, actually, I'd seen a therapist before.
00:50:36
I'd. We did my first marriage.
00:50:37
We went to couples counseling. But I felt like I was getting.
00:50:40
I meant for you, you personally, just by yourself.
00:50:43
This would have been second or third.
00:50:45
Yeah. So when when saw a therapist and
00:50:48
literally within I would say about 20 minutes of me talking
00:50:51
to this man for the first time, I've got a medication for you.
00:50:55
You know, I'm like, wait a minute, we just, we just started
00:50:57
talking. You don't know me.
00:50:58
Yeah, I had the same, but yes, but based on what you're telling
00:51:01
me, I've got this medication that will fix that.
00:51:05
So it's like when you know why is medication automatically the
00:51:09
be all end all fix you know? It's easy for and I went to a
00:51:14
psychiatrist which are, you know, these therapists that can
00:51:18
prescribe and the difference there and I found it later, is
00:51:21
that the therapists and psychologists are the ones who
00:51:24
spend more time with you and really really kind of talk and
00:51:28
you know do that whole thing and.
00:51:30
And the psychiatrists are the ones that tend to be that more
00:51:33
doctor like when you walk in there and they go and they have
00:51:36
like a go to anti or what do you call it any depressant and anti
00:51:41
anxiety medication. So you're saying that I went to
00:51:43
a psychiatrist thing because he was the one that?
00:51:45
They would OK the. Other ones cannot prescribe
00:51:47
gotcha. OK and.
00:51:48
So you go to a psychiatrist and they look and they go, all
00:51:50
right, well, this sounds like you're depressed.
00:51:52
Or it sounds like you had an anxiety attack.
00:51:54
Well I'm going to give you anti depressant and this is the one
00:51:58
he, you know they they all seem to like you know one or the
00:52:02
other and and they're like here. I mean then one guy spent 15
00:52:05
minutes with me and he was kind of like half my he was like half
00:52:08
my I think he was probably like a residue he was like 24 or
00:52:11
something whatever that age would be.
00:52:13
But he was really young and he kind of sat there and he's like
00:52:16
playing with one of the, you know, little kind of.
00:52:19
The thing where the Pens go on your hand and it makes the shape
00:52:22
and all that just kind of playing there, sitting in his
00:52:24
seat all awkwardly and he's like, yeah, you need, you need
00:52:26
this. And I'm like, you're not even
00:52:28
looked at me and you're just going to throw this on me.
00:52:31
And. Of course, at the time I was
00:52:32
kind of feeling like, oh man, I really just need something.
00:52:34
So OK. But later on I was like, I
00:52:37
didn't. This isn't comfortable.
00:52:39
And until I really saw a therapist that was focused not
00:52:42
on prescribing me something. And talking then did did I go
00:52:46
and see somebody else and and that therapist worked with them
00:52:49
and said this is what I think. And I think that's that's the
00:52:53
that's the key is when you do anything hasty and obviously you
00:52:57
have a situations where you need something quick.
00:52:59
You need something and you can't just, you know fight it off for
00:53:02
six months while you work with somebody.
00:53:04
You need something but but instead of just like tossing it
00:53:08
your way, that's what you're saying, right?
00:53:09
I mean, instead of on the other hand, I, you know, I went to my
00:53:14
actual primary care doctor said, hey, this is what they
00:53:17
prescribed. Yeah, she she made reference
00:53:19
that that's actually a pretty good medication.
00:53:22
So I did my homework there. I slow.
00:53:25
It took me a couple weeks before I actually tried it.
00:53:28
I have to say it actually did workout pretty well.
00:53:31
So you're saying you wins. They said that and you didn't
00:53:34
you you took your, you gave yourself your own advice and
00:53:38
said I'm not going to do this, I didn't jump on it, right?
00:53:40
Wow, that's interesting. I I got the prescription, filled
00:53:44
the prescription and then I took it to my doctor said hey, this
00:53:48
was prescribed to me. Do you see any issues with it
00:53:50
based on what you she's like? No.
00:53:52
This is actually pretty good. You know, I try it out for a
00:53:55
couple weeks, see what you think and the only the only bad thing
00:53:58
about it is made me kind of nauseous kind of going through
00:54:01
that first couple weeks with it. Something new to your body.
00:54:04
So yeah, that was that was the only thing.
00:54:05
Frustrating. But I tell you what I mean, I
00:54:08
felt wonderful on that medication, which sucks.
00:54:11
Unfortunately there was other issues that came up that I
00:54:14
wasn't a fan of and like even my boss mentioned it said I can see
00:54:19
you're a lot happier, but man, you were really scatterbrained,
00:54:21
you know, all over the place, so.
00:54:23
There's always going to be you know you trade this for that
00:54:26
kind of thing and it's worth it and then you play kind of this
00:54:29
game of OK, well this does this and this is this and you have to
00:54:32
wait this amount of time to try the new one.
00:54:33
It's it's it's a mess Now there are some things that I wish I
00:54:37
could take all the time and and. You have to kind of restrain
00:54:42
yourself and understand that there are better ways and that
00:54:44
some of it, you know these benzodiazepines are are so
00:54:48
amazing but they're so they're so bad.
00:54:51
I don't think there any is anybody in the medical field
00:54:53
right now that's even trying to push these anymore.
00:54:56
I mean that bad. The benzos the the your your
00:55:01
Ativan and your what's the big the main one Xanax.
00:55:06
This is your your benzos, the the for antidepressants.
00:55:10
Well, no. Well no, no.
00:55:11
This is kind of an anti anxiety type, not muscle like Valium.
00:55:17
But then it's like a whole different type of it's Xanax and
00:55:21
that kind of stuff. Gotcha.
00:55:22
And so doctors are shying away from it now.
00:55:24
There's been all these studies that are.
00:55:26
It's like if you take this for a long periods of time, in 10
00:55:30
years from now, everybody's gonna be, yeah, it's really bad
00:55:33
for the brain, really. So they're.
00:55:35
These are the benzodiazepines. Well, I'm taking it.
00:55:38
I'm taking the anti anxiety. That's not it.
00:55:40
That's not it. OK.
00:55:41
So you know what I'm taking, OK. I know, yes, I know.
00:55:44
Antidepressants, anti anxiety medications that are daily
00:55:48
benzos are meant to be as needed.
00:55:50
And what happens though is a lot of people get addicted and it
00:55:54
becomes a daily thing. It almost becomes like a like an
00:55:57
antidepressant. I can understand that.
00:55:59
And all of a sudden you're going OK and then your body gets used
00:56:01
to it. So you pop maybe a little more,
00:56:03
maybe a little more, and. You know, I had an amount that
00:56:07
my doctor was like, right, come on now.
00:56:09
And it wasn't that I necessarily needed it every day.
00:56:12
It was that because I didn't need anything.
00:56:15
I thought that was why. Yeah, OK well, this is great.
00:56:18
I pop it. I feel normal.
00:56:19
It didn't make me. It wasn't like I was getting all
00:56:22
high or messed up on anything. It just made me feel normal.
00:56:25
Yeah, I can believe that. But tapering off is difficult
00:56:29
and it's a very addictive. Those benzodiazepines are so
00:56:32
addictive and so I think that's that's where.
00:56:35
You know, we kind of got off a little bit on this, but but it's
00:56:38
a good it's a conversation because there's still people out
00:56:40
there that are taking it, just why the hell not kind of thing.
00:56:43
And people that look for it, they don't even need, they just
00:56:46
want to take it and then they it's the equivalent of having
00:56:48
like a couple of three drinks or something with an added mental.
00:56:53
It's just not. It's not good.
00:56:55
Well, it's frustrating cuz I mean I haven't.
00:56:57
I learned I have a very addictive personality.
00:56:59
And so once once you find something that takes an edge off
00:57:02
you know whatever the case may be is you know I I I was to help
00:57:06
me sleep I would take you know pain and sleep aids.
00:57:10
Well didn't realize if you don't take it with food it it ended up
00:57:14
messing up my esophagus really bad.
00:57:15
So I had issues with that and I which.
00:57:18
Gives you symptoms that it makes you think you have.
00:57:20
Some whole other right? And you know there was a
00:57:23
migraine medication. I don't have any issues, thank
00:57:26
goodness, with migraines, but it had caffeine and it was a pain
00:57:29
reliever. So you get that midday headache,
00:57:31
you get the caffeine going, the headache's gone.
00:57:34
You feel great. But again, wasn't taking it with
00:57:36
food. So I damaged it, did a lot of
00:57:38
damage to my esophagus at some point.
00:57:40
So you you try to find this stuff that helps take the edge
00:57:44
off what it whether it's pain, whether it's you need an extra
00:57:47
boost of energy, whatever the case may be is and yeah, you can
00:57:50
get addicted real quick and that's tough, so.
00:57:53
A lot of, you know, a lot of people use other things that
00:57:56
aren't drugs. You know, alcohol and.
00:58:00
And I won't lie to you, I mean, you have a drink at night.
00:58:03
It helps if you have a little bit of anxiety or if you're.
00:58:08
And again, the issue is for people that have addictive
00:58:10
personalities and are really battling it at certain stages.
00:58:15
I know from personal experiences you get ups and downs and big
00:58:19
time and so all of a sudden sometimes you go.
00:58:22
All I want, I just want to sit down and have that drink and
00:58:26
maybe watch something that I think is funny or entertaining
00:58:29
and just gets my and all you do is crave that place.
00:58:34
I'll be like, I just need to get to that time of day when no
00:58:37
one's around. Maybe the wife goes to sleep and
00:58:41
I can sit down and I can just get lost and not worry about
00:58:45
anything. Anything I can believe?
00:58:47
That, and again, it makes it easier when it's just a glass of
00:58:52
Scotch or something like that, or a couple, as we know I
00:58:55
contend to do. But you're an adult, I'm an
00:58:58
adult. And again, as long as you're
00:59:00
keeping an eye on your liver enzymes and things like that,
00:59:04
but some of these other drugs is the same idea.
00:59:07
Okay. I can't wait till, you know,
00:59:10
Trey, it was like, you know it's like every eight hours, right.
00:59:12
You can take something every eight hours on these types of on
00:59:15
the benzodiazepines kind of like Advil or something like that.
00:59:19
You every six to 8 hours, right. Well, you look at the time.
00:59:23
I would. I'd start looking at the time
00:59:24
I'd be going, oh, I can't. You don't want to miss.
00:59:27
The time or or just like at this time, I can take this and and I
00:59:32
can sit down and just like get lost in it.
00:59:35
And even if it didn't. Really do that much.
00:59:37
It was this Peace of Mind. It was just this idea.
00:59:41
It's almost like, what do you call those when you get the
00:59:44
placebo, the whole placebo effect, Right.
00:59:47
You could have been giving me anything.
00:59:49
You tell me it's the Xanax and I'd be like, and you take a sigh
00:59:53
of relief. Yes.
00:59:54
And so I think a lot of people get into that.
00:59:57
Sometimes I wish they would just give me a placebo and tell me,
00:59:59
yeah, you'll feel better. And I think my mindset would
01:00:02
help me. Because one of the reasons why I
01:00:05
got rid of the antidepressant is it was giving me some sexual
01:00:08
side effects and it was more frustrating.
01:00:12
We can't have that right? And you know, so it was like I
01:00:16
felt great and I was always in a great mood, but then, you know,
01:00:19
sexually things happened. That was frustrating.
01:00:22
You're getting laughed out of the Lifetime club.
01:00:25
Could perform, but I was in a great mood.
01:00:28
You're in a great mood, yeah. Everyone's like, he's fun to
01:00:30
hang out with. You can't fuck, so come.
01:00:35
On Now I know, I know. I'm giving you a hard time.
01:00:37
I kid because I'm jealous. Now it's shit.
01:00:39
I don't even know where I was going with.
01:00:41
Now we we've kind of been babbling, but but yeah, it's you
01:00:45
know it's. You were saying that it affected
01:00:47
you sexually. Yes.
01:00:50
And. And ultimately that's what led
01:00:52
to me, you know, dropping, getting off the medication, so.
01:00:58
And a lot of times it's the medication itself and that you
01:01:00
can have something that's the same type of medication.
01:01:03
It's just it's just different and have completely different
01:01:06
results, side effects and side effects.
01:01:07
And things like that and everybody kind of goes through
01:01:09
it. I think I had, I think I went
01:01:11
through something similar to it was just like it wasn't.
01:01:13
I didn't have an issue with performance.
01:01:15
It was more like the drive. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, whatever.
01:01:18
I can get laid. I get whatever.
01:01:21
And you start seeing somebody and they're just like, you
01:01:24
don't. Is it me?
01:01:26
And I'm like, whoa, whoa, what? No.
01:01:29
And then you tell your doctor and you switch off, and a month
01:01:32
later you're just ready to bounce like you're humping
01:01:34
everything. That walks.
01:01:37
I'm sorry. I didn't realize I was humping
01:01:38
your leg. Right.
01:01:39
Yeah, I'm ready to roll. What's your name, by the way?
01:01:42
Yeah, So, but anyway, that's a good topic and I think that's
01:01:46
something you and I could talk about, I'd like to have.
01:01:49
Somebody on that really, you know, doctor maybe or a
01:01:53
therapist or somebody that has experience with this that would
01:01:55
be willing to because I think you and I both experienced some
01:01:59
of this in our lives and in different ways, but also very
01:02:04
similar ways. And I think we've hopefully at
01:02:06
times have been a support system for one another and really
01:02:09
fortunate that, you know, I don't think our, our lives have
01:02:13
been impacted too much. I think they're like I said,
01:02:15
there have been extremes, maybe both ways.
01:02:19
But overall, we've been able to manage it and I think that's
01:02:21
what's key is that is being able to manage it.
01:02:24
But I think it's a topic we could talk about.
01:02:26
But but yeah, so let's, let's get on to Twilight Zone Facts.
01:02:30
What do you got for us tonight, Twilight Zone?
01:02:32
Facts that make us feel like we're in the Twilight Zone.
01:02:35
So the first one kind of was interesting, I hope, because how
01:02:39
much I love the dentist. So I can only imagine that this
01:02:41
kid. Went I've spent time in the
01:02:42
dentist 2019. So very recently a 7 year old
01:02:47
boy in India complained of a toothache.
01:02:57
No, don't say I knew. Yeah, after examination he was
01:02:53
found to have over 520 extra. What?
01:02:59
Is that crazy or what? How can they even fit?
01:03:04
So he always refused to allow doctors or dentists to see
01:03:08
inside of his mouth. He always complained about, but
01:03:11
he's. Seven You you open his out.
01:03:13
Well, like, right. I mean just like the last story,
01:03:16
I mean start cutting shit out. But said that once he was having
01:03:21
a bad episode, they finally got him to a hospital.
01:03:24
He was given some anesthesia and the doctors found the boy had
01:03:28
over 526 teeth in his small mouth.
01:03:33
How do you not see that? Is that just all impact?
01:03:36
I mean, there's what? Yeah, I mean, is it under the
01:03:38
gum or? I mean, I'm trying.
01:03:39
I see the story here. I'm looking at cuz it's a 7 year
01:03:43
old boy so it's not that freaking big is it?
01:03:46
Look at this though like. It's just a picture and it's
01:03:49
like that's your entire upper. It's a picture of the teeth and
01:03:53
then it's got like 3 rows of teeth behind it.
01:03:57
That are almost the same and it's all impacted, a bunch of
01:03:59
impacted. Up into the It's not even gum
01:04:01
though. It's what do you call the roof
01:04:03
of your mouth. And it's just like it makes me.
01:04:06
It makes me cuz I already have that issue where it's tropo
01:04:10
whatever, where you see a bunch of circles and patterns in a row
01:04:14
and it weirds you out. Is that only when you drink too
01:04:16
much or what? No.
01:04:19
It's not as bad right now, for some reason, I haven't had my.
01:04:21
I haven't had my third drink yet.
01:04:24
Yeah, no, I don't need to. I need to get rid of the
01:04:27
pictures. That's, yeah, stop looking.
01:04:28
That's gross. So.
01:04:30
Okay. Yeah, that poor little kid.
01:04:31
What are they gonna do? Extract all of them, right?
01:04:33
I mean. Like, I don't even want one
01:04:36
tooth pulled, much less 500. How much?
01:04:38
Imagine that kind of surgery in your mouth.
01:04:40
That's yeah, we're. Going to put you under for four
01:04:42
days. I mean, I would, you know, I
01:04:43
went through a time growing up where I had to have teeth pulled
01:04:46
just so my my adult teeth would grow in straight and I would.
01:04:50
I did as well. I would get 4 pulled at a time.
01:04:53
You know, I hated the dentist at that point.
01:04:54
Wisdom teeth. But it's only four at a time, so
01:04:57
that's not too. I had two extra teeth that he
01:04:59
said most people didn't have. And then one was below, one was
01:05:05
below the and then there was another below the gums on the
01:05:08
bottom. And they had to dig down and tie
01:05:10
a they had to tie out like a wire to it and then attach it to
01:05:14
my upper bracket on the braces. And then just slow the gums grow
01:05:17
back, grew back over it. And then just as I would talk
01:05:20
and whatever I wouldn't, I would start not feeling it and it
01:05:22
would just slowly pull it out, That's.
01:05:24
And yeah, so it's four wisdom teeth, two others, and then this
01:05:27
one. And it was like a one big
01:05:29
swooping surgery. Damn.
01:05:31
And I don't. I think it was like 16 or
01:05:35
something And and it's just weird.
01:05:37
I was like, really? Yeah, like I have to deal with
01:05:39
this bullshit. Why?
01:05:40
Why is this? Why?
01:05:42
Anyway, interesting. So that's interesting fact.
01:05:44
What's next? I've got one here that was, I
01:05:47
don't know if it's interesting or just really creepy 20%.
01:05:52
I like creepy. Let's go.
01:05:53
Yeah, 20% of all marriages globally, So not just in
01:05:57
Georgia. 20%, Yeah, You wrote it.
01:06:01
Yeah. Yeah.
01:06:02
So 20. Oh, we have friends in with
01:06:05
Georgia family, don't we? No, that's Louisiana.
01:06:08
Never mind. So anyway, 20% of all marriages
01:06:11
globally are between first cousins.
01:06:15
What, 20 percent? 20%?
01:06:17
No globally. In case you don't know, that's
01:06:19
1/5. That's a lot.
01:06:21
That's 1/5 of everybody in the world In the world.
01:06:24
First cousins. Yeah.
01:06:25
This isn't like, you know, OK. Down the road there's, you know,
01:06:28
5th. Whatever.
01:06:30
Wow, it says some countries are almost at 50% of marriages.
01:06:36
Being reaching cousins. Like what?
01:06:37
I wanna know what countries does it say?
01:06:39
No, unfortunately. Okay, we got a little tidbit.
01:06:42
We can make it up though, yeah. I'm not gonna research the
01:06:44
serious stuff we talk about, but this needs to be we've got to
01:06:47
figure this shit out. So is Burrow married to his
01:06:49
cousin? As we talked about.
01:06:51
On the last show with Meg and her shoot, those stories.
01:06:54
Remember those two half siblings?
01:06:56
Yes, yes. And they didn't even know for 10
01:06:58
years. Yeah, they had four kids and
01:07:00
fortunately they were all normal.
01:07:01
But that's crazy. They walked in circles, but
01:07:05
occasionally they're cute. Occasional zigzag.
01:07:09
Yeah, so we got a ton of worldwide listeners now.
01:07:12
So I wonder how many cousin married cousins we have
01:07:14
listening to us. And if anybody knows that you're
01:07:18
actually married, I mean, what? But again, that's the same
01:07:20
question we asked. About the siblings, like do you,
01:07:24
I mean did they stay together or do you go, this is, I can't do
01:07:27
this, I'm out. I mean, how many people split
01:07:29
and how many people stay together, right?
01:07:30
Right. That's what I want to know.
01:07:32
And if and is there are the percentages like crazy in
01:07:35
certain countries? Is there a certain country where
01:07:37
it's like 99% we're going to stay together.
01:07:39
So tell us. You know, write us.
01:07:41
If you're married to your first cousin, we won't.
01:07:43
We will not say your name, we swear.
01:07:46
We please anything at all to get you to write us and tell us your
01:07:50
story. We will not mention any names
01:07:53
and maybe not even your country if that makes you feel better.
01:07:56
We just want to know, especially if it's in the same state as us,
01:07:58
we won't make that's true. We'll make up a state so.
01:08:01
Yeah, and by the way, all the Georgia people, Trey apologizes.
01:08:04
We we love you. Sure, yeah.
01:08:06
Anyway, so the last little interesting one in in coma.
01:08:11
So that's spelled COLMA coma. Coma Col. would be, I guess,
01:08:17
Coma. Coma.
01:08:18
Yeah, OK, A tiny Californian city, which that makes sense.
01:08:21
I'm acting like I know. I'm like, I don't know, the dead
01:08:25
outnumber the living by almost 1000 to 1. 1000 to 1A 1000 to.
01:08:33
One they're showing me that Coma is a very, very small town, it
01:08:37
says. They're out, not the living or
01:08:39
outnumbered by the like in the graveyards and all that.
01:08:42
Yeah, it says said that they have a population, so let's say
01:08:47
go, let me go back here. So it's located in San Mateo
01:08:50
County. I don't know California.
01:08:53
I don't know. Is that Southern?
01:08:55
My second wife was from California, so that's about all
01:08:58
I know. You blocked it out now.
01:08:59
Don't marry from California. I'm going to look at it while
01:09:02
you're talking San Mateo. Go ahead San Mateo County, so
01:09:06
they have a population of 1500 and seven people, according to
01:09:10
the 2020 National. 15 That's OK, not a lot, but still it's
01:09:13
national census. Sorry about that.
01:09:15
Most of the city's land is dedicated to cemeteries, with
01:09:19
the number of deceased rounding at 1.5 million.
01:09:24
People says Coma is currently known as the City of the Silent.
01:09:30
Wow, I wonder if they have some cool Halloween parties.
01:09:33
I like. I just like the name City of the
01:09:34
Silent. That sounds really cool.
01:09:36
Can you imagine driving through that city and just people
01:09:38
creepily looking at you like? Well, it's like it's like where.
01:09:44
You from Coma? It sounds stupid versus I'm from
01:09:47
the City of the Silent. Yeah, it actually is.
01:09:51
Near San Jose, so not quite Northern California, but it's
01:09:57
just South of San Fran and Oakland.
01:09:58
So it's not, it is I would consider that northern, but it's
01:10:02
it's at the South side of the Bay.
01:10:03
You know, the Bay Area along the coastline is a big county called
01:10:08
San Mateo, so I'm assuming that's where this was.
01:10:12
So yeah, that. Was, I would have guessed it
01:10:13
more, you know, central California, like in the deserted
01:10:18
deserts, you know, that kind of deal.
01:10:19
But apparently it's near the coast.
01:10:21
Yeah. Anybody in California that knows
01:10:24
otherwise let me know. But that's what I'm seeing here.
01:10:27
Here's one last interesting. OK, it is more interesting.
01:10:30
And and of course this had to be in America, so not globally.
01:10:34
But it says in 44 states there is no.
01:10:38
So how many states do we have? 50. 50 but we have 40.
01:10:41
Three of them who have committed at least one listen to Stay in
01:10:45
the Grape. OK, so we've got 44 that there
01:10:48
is no legal minimum age for marriage as long as there is
01:10:54
parental consent. Oh, OK.
01:10:55
I kind of. I think I kind of knew this one,
01:10:57
but I didn't know it was 44 states, 44.
01:11:00
Those are all our states, that listeners says.
01:11:03
Unbelievable as it may sound, child marriage is perfectly
01:11:07
legal is a perfectly legal practice in almost all states in
01:11:11
the United States. The only caveat is that the
01:11:13
parents have to give permission for marriage.
01:11:17
How dramatic is that? Maybe it was like somebody 17.
01:11:22
Is that considered a child? I mean, well, my understanding
01:11:26
like at least in Texas, not that I've looked too too much into
01:11:28
this tray back in the day that it's 17, They're not considered
01:11:35
minors if you are like 19, you know what I mean?
01:11:40
They're not going to let 218 year olds, one of them, turn 19
01:11:42
and then there are. You know what I mean. 18217 year
01:11:46
olds and one of them turns 18 and then all of a sudden they're
01:11:48
fucked. And so the 17 year old was where
01:11:51
I understood that parent consent came into play as long as the
01:11:53
parents were okay with it. 17 was not minor.
01:11:56
Anything below that was gotcha and I didn't know that you did a
01:12:01
lot of research on it, but you hear.
01:12:03
Sounds like you have a you hear? You know what?
01:12:06
I have a great story. Nothing creepy.
01:12:09
Don't worry. Just tell the Prom story.
01:12:11
That's the story I was just thinking of.
01:12:13
So we'll tell that at some point, because it involves a
01:12:18
story that's not too detailed that I can get in too much
01:12:21
trouble for. But.
01:12:23
But I think below that I know that there are, you know, you
01:12:26
hear about these marriages. This 54 year old guy married a
01:12:29
15 year old girl. Why would the parents, the
01:12:32
parents would have had to consent.
01:12:33
Why? Why would they consent?
01:12:34
That's creepy. They're like, the dad's like,
01:12:36
this is the golf buddy I can go hang out with like I don't and
01:12:39
even the. Dad was probably younger, like,
01:12:40
I don't get it. So it said.
01:12:42
And unfortunately, Texas is not on here.
01:12:45
The only states in which you must be at least 18 years old to
01:12:49
marry are Delaware, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, PA, and
01:12:54
Rhode Island. Any of those states surprise
01:12:56
you? No, I mean maybe Pennsylvania
01:12:59
because of all the Amish. And I know they get they can
01:13:02
marry young, okay. I mean they get married.
01:13:04
Don't think. Is that what I'm thinking.
01:13:06
They get married really young. Well, not not in Pennsylvania.
01:13:09
Well, I mean, no one really knows the Amish you're doing,
01:13:12
says twenty. Others have no legal age.
01:13:17
Okay, so and then it says According to Equality Now, in
01:13:22
just the years between 2000 and 2010 / 240 child marriages
01:13:30
occurred, with the majority being older men marrying
01:13:34
underage. Girls, Well, well, that isn't
01:13:35
that part. Doesn't surprise me.
01:13:37
But the 200 and whatever thousand, That's a lot, 240,
01:13:40
yeah. Jesus, where?
01:13:41
They're underage, says underage. I'd be curious to know how
01:13:44
underage, because there's got to be some creepy backwoods shit
01:13:47
going on in there. Sure.
01:13:48
And I mean, I've heard stories. I say 15, but I mean I've heard
01:13:52
stories where it's even younger. And then of course you not.
01:13:55
You mean we usually make jokes. But I swear I don't watch the
01:13:59
talk shows. But you see a Jerry Springer or
01:14:02
a something and they have these people on there and they're the
01:14:05
girls like 12. And you wonder if it's the
01:14:07
producers that are making it up. But some of them seem pretty.
01:14:12
Legit, they little good actors, you know.
01:14:15
Pretty disgusting. Pretty disgusting.
01:14:16
So I I don't. Yeah, I don't.
01:14:20
I may have to shower after. Yeah, I don't.
01:14:22
Yeah, this, this, this Twilight Zone episode with all the
01:14:25
fucking teeth. And it'd be first cousins.
01:14:27
And, I mean, I think the City of silence is sounding or whatever
01:14:31
the hell that is. Sounds pretty good right about
01:14:33
now. Yeah.
01:14:34
I kind of want to go there a little quiet time.
01:14:36
Yeah. Trey and I, we're going to go
01:14:37
there because we're going to want first cousins and teeth and
01:14:39
all that shit. But anyway, that was good, good
01:14:42
one. How about self-awareness?
01:14:44
You want to do that? Absolutely.
01:14:46
All right, being aware of self-awareness, do you want to
01:14:50
go first? Sure, I've got a couple.
01:14:53
So one happened to me the other day.
01:14:55
And always, you know, this shit always happens when you're in a
01:14:58
hurry. But anyway, so you know how
01:14:59
you're going up. Straight.
01:15:02
And now that I've got a truck, it always it's a lot more
01:15:07
difficult actually. I can go over the curb anyway,
01:15:09
that guy. So even with the Jeep, I go.
01:15:12
Just go. You start anyway, so you want to
01:15:15
go get into the right turn lane, and of course you got a red
01:15:20
light, so traffic's backing up. You have a chance to get in the
01:15:23
right turn lane. You can kind of miss the traffic
01:15:25
turn right. The right turn lane, or some of
01:15:28
them have to return lanes. An actual turn lane.
01:15:30
An actual turn lane? Turn right.
01:15:31
Got it. So you've got two lanes and then
01:15:33
you've got a 3rd lane that's an actual turn lane got You want to
01:15:35
get into that turn lane. Just making sure miss all the
01:15:37
traffic I can get into my apartment and good to go, right?
01:15:40
Well, there's always that one asshole that for whatever reason
01:15:43
wants to leave a full car length in between the car in front of
01:15:46
them, right? So if they just pulled up a
01:15:48
little bit. Oh yeah, I know what you mean.
01:15:51
You can jump. That's a good one turn lane.
01:15:53
That's a good one. And turn.
01:15:54
But no, you have to wait till the light turn screen for them
01:15:57
to to scoot up. And of course this lady decides
01:15:59
she you know, she she doesn't pull up.
01:16:01
But I've got this big old truck now and I'm parked right behind
01:16:04
her. Of course, I'm probably about 6
01:16:06
inches from her fucking bumper to let her know I'm there.
01:16:09
What she do. She picks up her phone, she gets
01:16:11
her phone a little bit and stuff like that.
01:16:13
So it was it was enough to where I couldn't go over the curb,
01:16:15
which I normally do because I didn't want to be that much of
01:16:19
an asshole. But yeah, that was super fucking
01:16:21
frustrating. This is a this is one that I
01:16:23
think really the name plies, it's just a lack of awareness.
01:16:28
You're just not like what are you doing?
01:16:30
Do you You don't need a car length.
01:16:32
I mean, and and we say car length.
01:16:34
I've had it literally. Car length.
01:16:36
Absolutely. Or more.
01:16:37
Yeah. And you're going.
01:16:38
If you moved up 3 feet, I can get by you and turn right.
01:16:42
And of course there's a line behind me that would like to do
01:16:45
the same. Yeah, people.
01:16:46
I try to scoot up enough where people can pass through and.
01:16:49
Turn. I always try and do that and I
01:16:51
almost get frustrated if I can't do it.
01:16:54
I'm like, man, I don't wanna be an asshole even though I'm
01:16:56
trying my best. Yeah.
01:16:57
So the only other one is I'm trying to be a little bit more
01:17:00
courteous of a driver. Well, especially now that we're
01:17:03
doing self-awareness. Yeah, well, it's more so thanks
01:17:06
to somebody that tends to ride with me quite a bit.
01:17:08
So she's on my ass about certain things.
01:17:11
So anyway. She rides rides you quite a bit.
01:17:14
Rides me quite a bit about my traffic.
01:17:17
Habit. I see.
01:17:18
So anyway, so I try to be more curious and let people over when
01:17:22
they need to and stuff like that.
01:17:23
Which sucks sometimes cuz you're going down the highway at a
01:17:26
decent speed you know, and not too crazy and cart needs to get
01:17:30
over cool. You start slowing down, well
01:17:32
then they start slowing down. You slow down a little bit more,
01:17:34
then they slow down a little bit more and it's like, what the
01:17:36
fuck You know, get over, you know, next thing you know,
01:17:39
you're stopped on the highway just to let this one person over
01:17:41
to be courteous. Yeah.
01:17:42
And then now you're backing traffic up.
01:17:44
So I'm like, you know what, keep some, keep your speed.
01:17:47
Yeah, You know, cuz somebody's gonna slow down a little bit,
01:17:50
just not to let you in where you're not totally fucking up
01:17:53
the flow of traffic, so yeah. There's a flow, and I feel like
01:17:56
a lot of people don't get it. And I just, and if you're on the
01:17:59
highway, there's no need to slow down 20 to 30 miles under the
01:18:02
speed limit to get over into the next lane.
01:18:05
You know what? Keep your keep your speed.
01:18:07
Somebody will let you. Well, it's very similar to the
01:18:08
one that I talked about the one time, which is where they would
01:18:13
get over to let you buy and then they'd speed up.
01:18:15
Yeah. So you can't get up and over
01:18:17
back over. It's like, why weren't you doing
01:18:21
that before? Or, you know, somebody's pacing
01:18:24
you on your on your on the back tail of your car and you need to
01:18:28
get over. Yeah, but you start speeding up,
01:18:29
they speed up, you start slowing down, they slow down and they're
01:18:32
just pacing you. It's like, what the fuck you
01:18:34
know? So anyway.
01:18:37
Yeah, those driving ones are good.
01:18:38
I I think I have one, I have a couple.
01:18:40
I always have something pissed off about something.
01:18:43
Yeah, you know what? None of these are driving,
01:18:45
believe it or not, how long it's been since we've not done
01:18:48
anything. I know, Let me I think this is
01:18:51
very similar. There's a couple of these that
01:18:52
are real similar. We've talked about when you're
01:18:54
in a walkway. The big one is the airport, but
01:18:58
not everybody's at the airport a lot.
01:18:59
I've been fortunate and unfortunate to be in airports
01:19:04
quite a bit over in the last maybe 10 years.
01:19:06
A lot. Enough.
01:19:08
And you're just walking and then so think about airports, but
01:19:11
think about the mall, I think you brought that up.
01:19:12
Think about grocery stores. Think about, well, you don't get
01:19:15
a lot of one of these in the grocery store, but tourist
01:19:18
attractions or or in the city when I lived in Chicago, you're
01:19:21
walking around and you're just trying to get from point A to
01:19:23
point B. The first one is when you're
01:19:26
walking and there's a flow, especially Chicago say you know
01:19:29
you you wouldn't came and visited and we walked around the
01:19:31
city and it's like New York people are just everywhere
01:19:33
going. And you're and everybody's
01:19:35
walking well, if you're on your phone.
01:19:37
And all the sudden you lose focus and you just kind of stop
01:19:41
right in the middle of everything.
01:19:42
And then I run into you because I'm walking.
01:19:43
I might look over here and yeah, check out the girls.
01:19:46
Don't expect somebody to stop. Right.
01:19:48
And they just stop and just crash.
01:19:50
And then they're like and they kind of look at you and you're
01:19:52
like, OK, seriously, that's one. The other one is, you know,
01:19:56
these Dicks that take up their, you know, with their families
01:19:58
and you know, look, I'm a dad, I'm a husband.
01:20:02
And they they. Yeah.
01:20:03
They have affairs, but they're they're there and they they.
01:20:07
They want everybody to stop on a walkway so that they can take a
01:20:11
picture of the family, right. And and, you know, then little,
01:20:15
you know, Jimmy's running this well.
01:20:17
Come back, come back. We got to take a picture.
01:20:19
Smile. You're not looking at the
01:20:20
camera. No.
01:20:20
Look over here. And everybody's like stacked up
01:20:23
waiting for the picture to be taken.
01:20:25
And then it's taken and they, you know, let me try one more.
01:20:28
I mean, it's just unbelievable. And I and I, sometimes I just
01:20:32
walk in front and just like someone keep going.
01:20:35
Yeah. Yeah, I'll duck.
01:20:36
I'll be, yeah. Are you trying to duck a fast
01:20:38
duck underneath it? Yeah.
01:20:39
Yeah, something like that. But that one's annoying.
01:20:42
And again, if you do it really fast and you look like you're
01:20:45
doing it and you do it and go, that's fine.
01:20:47
But why don't you be the one that waits?
01:20:49
I have some urgency. Yeah, wait until everybody else
01:20:51
who's trying to get by in these situations.
01:20:53
Now again, if it's at a park or something huge.
01:20:57
And I happen to want to go there.
01:20:58
OK fine, I can go around you, but not in the the thin wall,
01:21:01
the the narrow walkways. Let me ask you this, how how
01:21:04
often has somebody asked you to take a picture and you decided
01:21:06
to take a selfie with their phone?
01:21:08
Oh, I, you know, I've only done that like once or twice.
01:21:10
Oh yeah, but that's, that's, I do that all the time.
01:21:14
I bet you do. I can see that.
01:21:15
How many people have pictures of Tray?
01:21:17
Oh, and I I love seeing them walk off and they'd look down at
01:21:20
their phone. All sudden they look up at me.
01:21:25
Well, now you just gave them free.
01:21:27
When when the podcast grows bigger and bigger and bigger,
01:21:30
then they're going to go, oh sweet, I knew this guy.
01:21:33
Yeah, this guy. Gave me a selfie.
01:21:35
So what an. You're welcome.
01:21:36
Yeah, yeah, you're welcome already.
01:21:40
The other ones real quicker. People that lead off and I never
01:21:44
realized this bothered me because I don't do it though I
01:21:47
just never do it. But it's very common people that
01:21:49
lead off sentences with with all due respect.
01:21:53
Yeah. And the joke there, of course is
01:21:55
that doesn't mean you can say I forget what comedian did there
01:21:57
or a movie or something. You can't just say anything.
01:22:01
It's bricky. Bob was it, was it Talladega
01:22:03
Night with Will Ferrell? And just because you say with
01:22:07
all due respect doesn't mean anything can follow that.
01:22:09
Well, I said, with all due respect.
01:22:12
And it's just like what it means if you say.
01:22:14
If you looked at me and Trey and you came, use it.
01:22:16
With all due respect, I know you're going to say some shit,
01:22:18
Some insulting, yeah? Something that I'm not going to
01:22:20
need to hear or want to hear, and with all due respect doesn't
01:22:23
make it better. Yeah, just say, guess what, you
01:22:26
ain't going to want to hear this, right?
01:22:27
That's one. And lastly, God, I never
01:22:32
realized how much it's annoying me until the other day.
01:22:35
When it happened and it when you're on an elevator, I I
01:22:38
bitched about escalators on the show that you you the last one
01:22:42
that I did by myself. Does somebody fart the
01:22:45
escalator. It's like, just in case you
01:22:46
didn't listen to our show, I get just, you said Just scoot over.
01:22:51
Just stay on the right. I did listen to the show.
01:22:53
Yeah, I'm trying. Just get out of the way.
01:22:55
Stay over the damn side anyway. Elevators.
01:22:59
If I'm on the elevator and it gets to the floor that I'm
01:23:02
getting off on and somebody's waiting to get on.
01:23:05
It is common courtesy to let the people on the elevator off
01:23:09
first. Don't be lying your way into the
01:23:12
elevator that I'm trying to meet around you and through people to
01:23:15
get off and the doors are closing on me and see whatever.
01:23:18
I always go get off and I try and hold the door of somebody
01:23:21
there. But it's just it happened in
01:23:24
this like lady just knocked me over trying to get it.
01:23:27
I'm like, well, I'm getting off here and she just didn't.
01:23:29
I just didn't give a. Shit on.
01:23:31
So those are mine tonight. Good ones, I.
01:23:33
Didn't mean to rush the room, but I felt like they didn't need
01:23:35
a lot of time. They just need you.
01:23:37
Just need to think they need to be addressed.
01:23:38
Needs to be addressed and you know when we do this segment I
01:23:43
always stop and I have to like calm down and it's because I
01:23:47
don't think these things are very difficult things.
01:23:50
I think that's what makes. I think that's what makes them
01:23:54
good for the segment is that it's not, it's not like you're
01:23:57
asking you to do all this crazy stuff and.
01:24:00
It's irrational. These things seem pretty easy.
01:24:03
You would think You would think, but yeah, people just don't have
01:24:06
that just courtesy anymore. I don't know.
01:24:09
Or is there an, like you said there, an unawareness of what
01:24:11
happened to the wave? You know, yeah, I let somebody
01:24:16
in earlier, just a little wave in the rearview mirror.
01:24:18
Nobody does that. I swear when I was younger and
01:24:22
started driving, it was like everybody all the time.
01:24:25
I know that maybe it's other thing but I.
01:24:28
All the time, no matter what. I mean, you could you could
01:24:31
almost run the guy off and oh, sorry, I'm sorry, my bad.
01:24:35
And now it's like I'm going to shoot you if you get close to
01:24:38
me. It's just ridiculous.
01:24:40
I just feel like a lot of these things are very simple.
01:24:42
They should be the elevator thing.
01:24:44
The, you know, with all due respect is probably one that
01:24:49
Ryan's just being Ryan. But but I just just shut up to
01:24:52
say that shit. But anyway, so that's all for
01:24:56
tonight. What do you think?
01:24:57
It's good. I had fun.
01:24:58
It's good. It's good.
01:24:59
It was good. It's good.
01:25:01
It's good. We'll see how good it is.
01:25:03
It's definitely quieter in the studio tonight, don't you think?
01:25:06
Yeah, a little bad rather. Than Antoine and Meg, a little
01:25:09
calmer. Crazy Antoine and Crazy Meg.
01:25:11
We we love those too. And just got the two old white
01:25:14
guys in here now. You know, you know, I didn't
01:25:16
agree with a lot of the stuff that Meg said, but I just kind
01:25:18
of let her go. Is that bad?
01:25:20
Should I have? Should I have kind of prodded
01:25:23
her a little bit? That's what I do a lot of time
01:25:25
for. You just let you go.
01:25:27
May not agree with it, but you know what I was like?
01:25:29
You know, people are gonna think he's an idiot.
01:25:31
So that that works out well. Well, that's not what I meant,
01:25:33
but OK, glad to know that how you really feel.
01:25:36
But I just felt there are a few things that she said.
01:25:38
I was like, oh, I wanted to sit there and argue a little bit,
01:25:41
but I didn't. I let those gins ears kind of
01:25:43
have their way they think they know best.
01:25:45
They think they know best, right?
01:25:47
They'll learn in 20 years when they're our age.
01:25:53
You should have listened to Ryan and Trey.
01:25:54
Well, I mean, in all fairness, Meg is going to law school, so
01:25:57
it's kind of like I wanted to give her the benefit of the
01:25:59
doubt. But I mean, come on.
01:26:02
The one thing I wanted to say before we end is anybody that
01:26:07
has a podcast probably has heard of a man named Joe Rogan, right?
01:26:13
Yeah. Anybody that doesn't have a
01:26:14
podcast is probably better than Joe Rogan.
01:26:16
Joe Rogan, Yeah. Well, Joe Rogan.
01:26:18
The day after we put our OR, we recorded our episode on Jason
01:26:23
Aldean said Almost the exact same thing that I said.
01:26:27
No shit. Which a lot of people, in all
01:26:29
fairness, look, a lot of people are going to say this, but it
01:26:32
was the idea that it's this idea that look, this is blown way out
01:26:36
of proportion that all the rap songs, not all the rap songs,
01:26:40
but a lot of the rap songs are way worse and.
01:26:43
He used those. A lot of the rap songs are way
01:26:45
worse. I'm not saying Joe knows all.
01:26:48
I'm not a joke, apologist, whatever.
01:26:50
I enjoy a show every once in a while and whatever.
01:26:53
But I'm just saying this isn't just me spouting off.
01:26:56
This is a common perception that people have, and it's something
01:27:01
we should talk about. Well, and I'm sure there's other
01:27:03
genres of music that's way worse too than just rap.
01:27:06
I mean, I know some songs. Actually, I was listening to
01:27:09
some songs on my playlist that I'm like.
01:27:13
Well, there's a one rock song crazy.
01:27:14
There's a one rock song that she's a she's a bitch.
01:27:18
And it's really anyway, but it's a rock song and it's pretty bad.
01:27:22
So, I mean, I've heard a crazy bitch or something like that.
01:27:25
Yeah. But you fuck so good.
01:27:26
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that one's got a little
01:27:29
like, whatever cherry. I think.
01:27:31
Is that Buck Cherry? Yeah.
01:27:32
So there's some songs out there, but I think the rap.
01:27:35
To me, has just been the most where I put it on.
01:27:38
And I'm like, what? What did he just say?
01:27:40
Like, what the hell? Very polarizing.
01:27:42
And yeah, and whether it's against women or whether it's
01:27:45
well, like N.W.A came out with, fuck the police, you know?
01:27:49
And and I think they got arrested at concert because the
01:27:52
cops said, listen, if you play this song we will arrest you and
01:27:55
they. Because it's inciting the
01:27:57
violence. But that, I mean, that's pretty
01:27:59
like, come on, Aldeans. We had to, like, break down with
01:28:02
some Gen. Zers trying to find the
01:28:04
violence. This was no hidden message.
01:28:06
This is basically, yeah. So I just thought that it was
01:28:09
interesting to bring up, but we're going to move forward and
01:28:13
we have one more show. In season one, everybody, we're
01:28:18
going to do a 33 episode season, yes.
01:28:22
And so our finale will be. We're thinking about trying to
01:28:26
do it from our African trip. So we'll see.
01:28:28
I'm not sure, we don't know, but if we can get the Wi-Fi and
01:28:32
survive and certainly we're alive by next Wednesday, which
01:28:36
is when we record. I will.
01:28:39
We'll we'll definitely do the show from there and it'll be a
01:28:41
great season finale. Why don't I picture us on
01:28:43
Windows with this spigot over some fire spigot as a spigot?
01:28:49
But what are those things where you had a little pig?
01:28:51
Ohh why? Don't know what that's called.
01:28:53
I don't. Know it may be, but I it just.
01:28:55
I don't know but it sounds funny.
01:28:56
Spigot, Spigot. Spigot.
01:28:58
That sounds really inappropriate.
01:29:00
Sounds like, I don't know, some sort of racial stuff.
01:29:02
Anyway, hopefully we're not dangling over some fire for some
01:29:05
soup. Oh, rotisserie.
01:29:07
Some tribe a rotisserie. Yeah, you know where you see a
01:29:10
big fire? Where they're rolling the OK.
01:29:13
So I'm gonna go with rotisserie. So yeah, let's hope we're not
01:29:16
over somebody in Africa. It's like it's like, oh the the
01:29:20
the locals will give you an authentic experience.
01:29:23
Yeah, us, us being cooked, yeah we're the cuisine.
01:29:27
But we'll we'll hopefully we'll be safe and we'll do the season
01:29:30
finale and we've got some great stuff lined up already for
01:29:33
Season 2, including maybe not right at the beginning but some
01:29:38
cameras since we'll. We'll get video, basically.
01:29:40
See our crazy mugs for the each episode.
01:29:43
So thank you guys. We'll see you next time.
01:29:46
Love you later, Ryan.
01:30:07
I'm happy. I should be proud to say that
01:30:10
neither one of my marriages were to my cousins.
01:30:14
I need to get Olivia tested.