Tariffs, TikTok & Trade War 2.0 | Trump’s Economic Power Play
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Tariffs, TikTok & Trade War 2.0 | Trump’s Economic Power Play

Trump’s back—and so are his tariffs.
60% on China. 145% cumulative by 2025. A global 10% baseline on everyone else.

In this episode of Stay in the Gray Podcast, Ryan breaks down what may be the most aggressive economic move in modern U.S. history. Is it suicide—or long-overdue strategy?

🎙 Topics include:
– What Trump’s tariffs actually do (and who pays)
– Why China’s retaliation may be backfiring
– The EU and Japan’s quiet repositioning
– Why “cheap” might be costing us more than we think
– Supply chains, national leverage, and American jobs

No spin. No safe takes. Just names, numbers, and unapologetic perspective.
🔥 Hit Follow if you think protecting U.S. industry shouldn’t be controversial.


🔹 Chapters: 

00:00 - Introduction: The Epidemic of Bad Driving

00:46 - Welcome to Stay in The Gray Podcast

01:24 - Today's Topic: Terrible Drivers

04:24 - Distracted Driving: A Deadly Issue

07:34 - Tailgating and Left Lane Hogs

09:43 - Unrestrained Dogs: A Furry Danger

11:56 - Ryan's Rant: Turn Signals and Common Courtesy

15:05 - School Zones: A Serious Matter

17:20 - Final Thoughts: Be Considerate on the Road

27:07 - Conclusion: Stay Alert, Stay in the Gray



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245% Tara. 245% started from Chinese imports.

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Our President of the United States, Donald Trump, has now

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imposed on China. Are you kidding me?

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Is it to the point to where you hate Donald Trump that much that

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you're going to say we're with you?

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China, probably our largest enemy right now.

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If we don't make hard choices now, we'll get harder ones

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later. If we can't pay a little more

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for freedom, then what's it even worth?

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The tariffs are messy, controversial, but just maybe

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they're necessary to get where we want to go.

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Hey you guys, April 16th, 2025 the Trump trade War 2 point O

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let's get into this. I just heard I'm trying to

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figure out how to work this in. I I literally heard minutes ago

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that the tariffs that were imposed on China have now been

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raised again in response to China's raising of the raising.

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Now we're at 245% Tara. 245% started from Chinese imports.

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Our President of the United States, Donald Trump, has now

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imposed on China. Obviously they're not happy.

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And this penis size war continues on.

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Who has the bigger ego and the bigger peace?

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Let's talk about it rationally. I'm going to give you my

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opinions and then I have some numbers.

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I have some some thoughts and I have both sides because this is

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a big deal to the United States. It's a big deal to everybody.

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I think in this world and I it's important that everybody

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understands. And I don't think that that

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everybody does. I think that that people are

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being on both sides are being continuing to be told what to do

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and say and how to act and nobody's thinking for

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themselves. Some of you I'm sure are, but

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let's talk about this a little bit.

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They started out the tariffs of 60% on China, OK, 145%

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cumulative by this month. Well, when China upped that

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instead of what some people say is caving, and I don't agree

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with that. I think other countries have,

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which I'll talk about in a minute, have jumped on board and

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they're saying, all right, let's let's talk about this.

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China is not one of those and I'm not surprised.

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So once they raised it, apparently today we have

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continued to raise it. And it wasn't some big, big

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announcement, some big, you know, I didn't see Caroline

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Leavitt, press secretary up there.

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But the other thing is global tariffs on just about every

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other country except for Canada, except for Mexico.

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And the response to that has been crazy.

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Again, one side, I hate Donald Trump, so anything he does

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sucks. The other side, Donald's the

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best and fuck everybody else. I lean towards the latter, of

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course, but I'm also understanding that there isn't a

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Gray area. There is a neutral a, a spot to

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be in and say, hey, look, maybe we slow down or maybe we do this

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or, or you know, whatever. But the bottom line in my

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opinion is that this is about a mindset.

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This is about America first. This is about we're not going to

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be taken advantage of. This is about we don't care what

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China does. We're going to do us.

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We're going to do, I'm going to do me.

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And I think that that's what you're seeing spread a little

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bit, not only in this country, but in other countries around

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the world. Is it national security?

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Is it political points or is it finally putting the United

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States first? Let's roll.

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And yes, I'm going to name names.

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Let's flashback to 2018. If Donald Trump kicks off this

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new trade war. We've, we've always had issues

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with China. I mean, he kicks off this new

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one by slapping tariffs on the Chinese goods, billions worth.

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This was in 2018. Why?

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Because China has been treating our economy like a doormat,

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stealing IP, forcing tech transfers, subsidizing their

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industries and buying more Russian vodka instead of Jack

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Daniels. Everyone freaked out.

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The markets dipped. Farmers were getting nervous.

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And then it just kind of faded and you didn't hear much more

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about it. The Biden administration, they

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weren't as concerned about America first.

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They were concerned about, oh, we have to keep everybody else

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happy. And by doing that, they

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basically bent over to China. And that's what Donald Trump is

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undoing. You heard it here, my opinion.

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But now it's bigger. It's back, it's back.

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It's bigger, it's it's badder, it's louder, and a lot more

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zeros are involved, apparently. So what's new?

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I was going to give you the numbers again, 60% tariff on all

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the Chinese goods, but they went up to 145, blah, blah, blah.

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You've heard all this before. Now we're at 245%.

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It's staying at 125% the other way.

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President Xi, I think I say that right every time of China is

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saying he's not going to go above it.

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He's trying to look like the good guy and he's saying

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anything above 125 is absurd. Basically a backhanded slab to

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Donald saying he's the one being petty.

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When in reality, all that we did was match the initial tariffs

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they had on the United States. So it becomes, you know, if you

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don't know that, then it looks like Donald Trump's being petty.

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So don't be afraid to listen to Stay in the Grade podcast.

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So the 10% universal tariff is 1.

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We'll talk about also Canada and Mexico were excluded from that.

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Apparently. We still love our room mates,

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even though they mooch off us a little bit and use us as a line

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of defense. My kid maybe the targeted

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sectors in all these tariffs. You got electric vehicles, steel

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and aluminum, semiconductors, batteries, tech, hardware.

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The messaging here is simple. America first, China last.

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Manufacturing is coming back to the United States.

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The critics and the whiners to all of this, I added whiners.

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They'll say it's inflationary, it's political, and it's bad

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economics. But let's be real, inflation is

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already here and China wasn't helping at all.

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It is beyond me that Americans now, even in our government, I

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have seen posts on social media and interviews where these

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Americans are saying we're with you, China with the fucking

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Chinese flag on the post. Are you kidding me?

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Is it to the point to where you hate Donald Trump that much that

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you're going to say we're with you, China, probably our largest

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enemy right now and your way of life and your government

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philosophy of communism is something that we have

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vehemently oppose. But we're with you because we

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hate Donald Trump that much. Even if you disagree with

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tariffs people, there's a way to go about it.

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You might not agree with it. You might want them to go

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slower, but to sit here in a line with our enemy just to kind

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of stick it to everybody, maybe to get clicks or likes, I don't

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know, but you're trash and I and I said it.

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So let's move on from there. Goodness, people, we're with

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China. Really, it's very similar to the

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to if somebody went around and said we're with ISIS or we're

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with Hamas. If, if you want to get a little

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bit closer to home with these protests recently, again,

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protest, be upset all you want, but you don't have to align with

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our enemies. Something to think about at

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least. Who knows early on.

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And this is another complaint. This is where I'll kind of side

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with a lot of people. There may be a little bit of of

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of a fluctuation in prices with certain things.

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We don't know exactly. It hasn't been long enough, but

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I haven't seen anything yet. In fact, a lot of things have

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gone down price wise. Gas has gone down.

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People try and tell me, oh, I live in where it doesn't

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bullshit. That stuff is researchable and

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I've done that. Gas is going down overall.

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Eggs have gone down, way down overall.

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You can't use that anymore, so China's not playing very nice

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either. It's not like they're innocent

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again. 125% tariffs on us. They're banning Boeing imports.

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China The country has reportedly ordered Chinese airlines to stop

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taking deliveries of Boeing jets amidst trade tensions with the

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US. Cutting off rare earth exports

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that power phones, weapons, satellites, you name it.

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The idea, though, is that we don't need that to come from

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China. We can produce it here or we can

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get it from others through reciprocal trade, fair trade.

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But let's be honest, China's pretty good at this.

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They're attempting to be ruthless.

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The only one to stand up to the mighty crazy Donald Trump, who

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people want to call a dictator, which is the opposite of what he

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does. People want to call him all

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these crazy things. The only one to stand up to him

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so far is China. Canada tried.

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It was cute. Mexico they tried is cute.

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Chinas got some some power here. And so I think Donald proven

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he's not backing down. President Xi isn't doesn't want

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to back down. Here's the twist from the people

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that have a problem with the tariffs and it's something that

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needs to be addressed. China is the number one trading

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partner. China has become its largest

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trading partner for 120 plus countries in the world.

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They've been playing long ball instead of, you know, over here,

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we get mad at China and we complain about TikTok and we

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argue that there may be may or may not be some drones from

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China in the skies. Meanwhile, China's playing the

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long ball game and they're set up pretty nicely with, like I

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said, 120 plus countries. But you know what?

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My problem with China is that their products flood the global

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market, but they suck. When I receive something and

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it's made in China, it's shit. I mean sometimes it doesn't

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matter if it's a trinket of sorts or or whatever.

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I'll tell you a quick story. I you know I'm an avid hockey

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fan. My favorite team is the

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Pittsburgh Penguins. If any of you like them let me

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know. Been since I was a kid.

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I found a a site that from China that was making authentic

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jerseys. So I nabbed 1 and it was a my

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favorite player over here in the United States.

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One of those authentic jerseys, literally one that is worn in

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the NHL can go for about 240 to $260.

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This was $25 made in China and they claimed it would be

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absolutely the same thing. Well, it wasn't, but it was

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close. So kudos to them.

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But it still started ripping apart.

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And it wasn't probably it wasn't legal because about a month

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later when I went on to get another one, the site had shut

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down. So there's a shadiness there

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when it comes to Chinese products.

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And that's why I tend to kind of sit here and say, what do we

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need this for? I mean, you know, Etsy's great

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and a lot of products come from over there.

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But at the time it takes to get here, although that's improved,

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I must admit, Let's build relationships with others, make

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quality products, have fair trade and be better than they

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are, be less snake like if you will.

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We can't, we can do better. I just, I believe that smarter

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manufacturing, stronger materials and supply chains that

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don't bow to Beijing. And that's what our goal is.

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And I just can't believe there are people here that that could

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listen to this and go, no, we like Beijing.

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Good. Let's let's stay there.

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Let's stay with them. Let's let's pay their absurd

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tariffs and take ours off the table.

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Let's cower to China. Come on, people, I'm not saying

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this. We cannot be naive to the big

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picture. I get that.

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We don't need to be dependent on others either.

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There is a a way to do this, and I think that's what's being

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done. Here's the messy middle, OK?

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Supporters will say the tariffs are the only way to protect the

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US industries from predatory pricing as slave labor, stolen

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innovation, things like that. But the opponent's tariffs hurt

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consumers, they disrupt supply chains, and they don't always

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bring the jobs home. They just move them over to a

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place like Vietnam. Now, fair fairpoint, but maybe

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the real question is, do you want cheaper Airpods or in

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America that actually makes stuff?

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Again, just think about that and hopefully come up with the right

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answer. But just when you thought it

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couldn't get any more on the nose, President Xi the other day

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had the audacity to demand the US remove these new tariffs and

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go back to the way it was, which was us being taken advantage of

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by China. Who are you really?

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G wants a refund. I just don't know who he thinks

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he is. He's not in charge of the United

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States. He's not in charge of the world.

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Good for you. You got away with it for long

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enough. Not anymore.

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That era is over. I don't know what we're supposed

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to say. Sorry.

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We'll take the economic handcuffs off and put them back

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on so you can keep undercutting our markets and stealing our

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tech with a smile. You don't get to gut American

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manufacturing for decades and then throw a fit when we stop

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letting you. It's not how it works.

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We're not here to make Beijing feel comfortable.

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We're here to make America competitive again.

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So how do you make all of this work without tanking the

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economy? We're nuking Walmart prices.

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Here's the idea. You pair the tariffs with

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domestic incentives, that's huge in my opinion.

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You invest in American manufacturing with subsidies and

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tax credits, things like that. Build tech independence,

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semiconductors, batteries, AI, the things that I mentioned.

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Strengthen our alliances. We have them India, Taiwan,

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Mexico and Canada. Spread the supply chain love and

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let's build our own network. I don't see why we can't do it

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and finally get serious about buying American.

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Let's not sit here and tweet about it.

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Let's do it. Be aware of what you're

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purchasing. And I need to be better as well.

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I mean, I'm sitting here. I do not want to be a hypocrite

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when it comes to anything. I hate that.

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I hate those people. And so I need to be better as

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well. And I'm going to when Donald

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Trump dropped the 10% global universal tariff on the world,

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it was loud, it was blunt. It was something called

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Liberation Day. He tweeted about it and posted

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it and put on true social and X and all that.

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And everybody made memes about it.

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And it was a big deal, Liberation Day.

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And it was designed to make a point.

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And that point is something I'm trying to get to you throughout

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the show. If you want access to the

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American market, you'd better come to the table.

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Guess what it did. Not China, but everybody else,

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most everybody else, almost 70 countries, it's rumored to be

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even more, have reached out to the United States since he did

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this to talk about trade deals or request exemptions,

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extensions. Countries include Vietnam,

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Brazil, India, other, some of whom are staring down tariffs as

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high as 46%. And then how about the big boys,

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the big players in the game, European Union, They were a

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surprise when Donald hit them with this and they didn't like

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it. And they came out and they did

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their whole thing. Like everybody, he's bullying,

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he's this and that. And I think they quickly

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realized that wasn't going to be the game plan.

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And then suddenly they were very interested in streamlining

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negotiations. And they're not calling it

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surrender per SE, but they're definitely calling.

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And how about Japan? Look, Japan probably super

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intelligent leadership. They've acknowledged that these

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tariffs are damaging, but then they kind of open this back

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channel with the United States and they're like, we don't like

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this, but don't leave us out smart.

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They know they of course they don't like it who we know.

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We're not asking people to go, this is fantastic.

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Thanks for adding to tariffs, higher tariffs.

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Thanks for calling us out on taking advantage of you.

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Don't expect that, but you expect rationality.

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You expect the leader of a country like Japan to say it's

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time to get this squared away and here we go.

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And Japan called the US now has paused the global tariffs for 90

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days. Obviously, that does not include

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China. What has happened is that Donald

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Trump and his staff has seen that other countries are coming

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to talk. They want to negotiate.

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So hey, pause it all and let's talk.

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By no means was this some sort of a hightail it and and run and

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he caved. He didn't caved for shit.

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It is a pause. Look up the word pause in the

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dictionary if you are unfamiliar.

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All it is is hey, we're going to take some time to talk to

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everybody. We're going to square it away.

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And of course he doesn't want to hurt anybody more than he needs

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to when it comes to trade if they can come to a deal.

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So smart move, not cowardly move, smart move and it's paying

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off. I think one thing I wanted to

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mention was that some of the electronics he was actually

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excluding from the tariff. And that's smart on his end.

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Why would you want this immediate consumer backlash for

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things like electronics, lots of phones, laptops, things like

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this were excluded. So, you know, he's trying to to

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do this the right way. But let's be clear, 10% is still

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in place. It's on pause and China's still

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getting smacked with now 245% tariffs.

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I know I'm keeping my eye on this and I'd like to know what

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and see what happens here. My popcorn is ready now.

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Everyone else besides China is looking for a way to get off the

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naughty list and I think that proves that it's not a weakness

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on EU s s end. It's it's leverage, it's

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controlled pressure and I think it's it's working Like I said

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now like 5 times, this is how you change the game.

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You stop playing defense and you make others start adjusting to

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you. We've done apologizing for

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wanting to protect American interest, American jobs,

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American manufacturing, American sovereignty.

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No more apologies. There's nothing wrong with

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looking after ourselves. The tariffs are in a tantrum of

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any kind by Donald Trump. It's a strategy they're judging.

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And judging by the line at the negotiation table, it's working.

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You can laugh, argue, you can meme, rage, tweet.

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But here's the truth. We don't take control of our

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economy. China will.

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If we don't make hard choices now, we'll get harder ones

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later. If we can't pay a little more

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for freedom, then what's it even worth?

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The tariffs are messy or controversial, but just maybe

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they're necessary to get where we want to go.

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And here it's Stay in the Gray podcast.

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We're not cheering for Wall Street, we're pulling for Main

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Street. You liked the way this was

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broken down, Hit subscribe, drop a review, Send this to someone

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that's got him in their profile picture, send it to him and say,

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hey, look, here's a guy. Here's truly, he might not know

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every single detail of how the tariffs are working, but it's

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somebody who understands the purpose and understands the

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mindset that this administration and the majority of this country

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have right now and to align with China is not the way to do it.

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So dig in a little deep, listen to something like this and then

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do some research. Do your own research and look

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into what what the tariffs are and what they were before Donald

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started raising them. He's just matching ladies and

00:18:53
gentlemen. He's not being this big bully

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that everybody wants to make him out to be.

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So until next time again, any like any subscribe all that

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helps and I'm really just loving this.

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So thank you. Until next time, stay smart,

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stay skeptical, stay laughing please, and stay in the Gray.

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Love you guys.