In this epic marathon episode of Stay in the Gray, Ryan and Trey are joined by guest Antwan for a rollercoaster of raw discussion, outrageous conspiracy theories, and one of the most debated questions in modern cancel culture:
👉 Should a convicted school shooter have a voice on social media?
From dissecting the Jon Romano case to exploring zombie conspiracies, relationship celibacy, and even killer orcas, this episode blends hard-hitting ethics with unfiltered fun. And yes—there’s also a guy who got lost because he wouldn’t answer an unknown number.
🔥 Topics Include:
A real-life ex-school shooter gains social media followers—should he be silenced?
Race and response: Does skin color affect public reaction to school violence?
Guns in movies vs. real life
Relationship talk: Antwan’s celibacy and Trey’s brutally honest advice
Zombie apocalypse: real threat or conspiracy?
Killer whales and the truth they’re hiding 🐋
Listener stats reveal: Men and Androids are winning
Game time: Text acronyms decoded
Awareness of Self-Awareness: Ranking your friends A through D?
📌 Chapters (Condensed):
00:45 – Hiker Lost Over Ignored “Unknown Number” Calls
04:00 – Text Acronym Game
15:35 – Listener Stats: Men & Android Users Rising
26:33 – Jon Romano Story: Should a School Shooter Have a Platform?
49:45 – Race, Justice & Public Reaction
1:09:46 – Guns in Pop Culture
1:27:23 – Antwan Talks Celibacy & Relationships
1:35:25 – Zombie Apocalypse Conspiracy
1:39:10 – Orca Conspiracy? Antwan Weighs In
1:46:45 – Political Talk, Antwan Style
1:57:00 – Awareness Segment: Ranking Friends A, B, C, D
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Ryan, Ryan, Ryan. How's it going, my man?
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It is going very well. You know why?
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Why is that? I'm going to turn the camera to
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the reason when I do editing. Hey, my man.
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How are you, Antoine? I'm doing so well.
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How are y'all? We're so happy to have you back.
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I. Like to be here?
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Every time, I mean the next show after you've been on, we always
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kind of recap a little bit and I think Trey was really excited
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last time. He's like, you know, Antoine's
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got this energy. He does.
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He brings in. Yeah, so, so.
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But now I'm gonna bring a headline.
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Oh. Period.
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Yeah, shut up Antoine. Apparently that was enough.
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OK, you got it. You got one of your headlines.
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Let's hear it. This is probably good for you.
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Are you gin Z or y'all? Don't talk on the phone anymore.
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So this hiker. Did you know you could talk on
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the phone? Yeah.
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What's a phone? Yeah, exactly.
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So this hiker was lost for 24 hours.
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Can you imagine being lost for 24 hours?
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That would suck, right? A.
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Hiker or a hitchhiker? It says a hiker.
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So he was out hiking and he said he was lost for 24 hours because
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he ignored calls from rescuers because it was an unknown
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number. I'm looking to see if he's in
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Florida, but I don't see anything about like I feel like
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that. I just.
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I immediately want to go, OK, someone made that up, but I so I
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love the comments, you know? That you love.
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So yeah. So yeah, and of course they're
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like, well, send me a text. Although how was he lost for so
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long if you had cell service? That's it.
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Now my house. You receiving calls.
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But he can't call. You can't.
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Find if it's like an emergency hotline.
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That's how that can get through and wait.
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That just debunked the whole thing in one one comment, right?
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Why we've been talking about They should left a voicemail.
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I bet he would have listened to that, you know?
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Right. Yeah, has something else to do.
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Everybody's like, I'm not. I'm not gonna get.
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But have you noticed? No calls, none of those numbers
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ever leave voicemail, right? Nobody.
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I mean, right? If you're a number and you've
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got some business interest and you think I'm not gonna care,
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we'll give it a shot. Like, I'm definitely not gonna
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call you back if you don't leave me a voice, right?
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And everybody's saying that Search and Rescue should have
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texted him, you know, so. Yeah, everybody texts now and
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then. The last one, of course is says
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we know you're lost in the mountains, but do you have a
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moment to talk about your car's extended warranty?
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So do you get those calls all the time about stupid I?
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Only ever got one. OK, well, you're lucky.
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Yeah. So.
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So yeah, that was kind of interesting.
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But yeah, doesn't say where he's at.
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Unfortunately, it's got to be in Florida hiking.
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You think use it Or maybe there's a lot of man in Florida.
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Yeah, maybe the Florida man went somewhere to hike.
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So anyway, so yeah. Thank you, Josh.
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Josh Wolf, that first comment was enough for me to kind of be
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like, OK, you're right. Well, if it's got service, but
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to your point, maybe it was just an emergency signal, emergency.
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But also I feel like. The police could have just left
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the voicemail. Like, hey dude, we're really
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trying to help you. Yeah, Hey dude, we're gonna pick
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up. This stuff, or even that exact
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same thing on text, right? Hey dude, Hey dude.
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Hey, I know we haven't talked in a couple years, but you know, I
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just hope you're doing well. Right.
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Hey, pick up your phone. What if you say response New
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phone? Who's this?
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Yeah, honestly. Absolutely.
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Sure that that's pretty funny. Shit, Okay.
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All right, you already said Gin Z once.
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I thought we would. I think we should do it.
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Anybody watching or listening should do a drinking game for
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every time we say Gen. Z because we tend to do it
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whenever we don't like something or understand something that
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Antoine says, we just say we play Gen.
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Z and so now everybody can take a take a take a drink.
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Anytime I or Trey or Antoine it says Gen.
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Z or Gen. X.
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Why not get drunk, get plastered.
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But Speaking of that, I find it when Trey and I and.
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It texts with Antoine on a group text.
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Antoine replies with a bunch of acronyms that most of them I've
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learned. And I'm like, all right, cool, I
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feel all cool. We talked about the word slay.
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Yep. Right.
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I think Trey and I say that to each other six times a day.
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Now doesn't sound right, yeah. You'll get there.
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Yeah, and I always remember a little late.
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So it's you'll say something and I'll remember.
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And then I'm like, Oh yeah, Oh yeah, Slay.
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That was a good slay. Yeah, that was a good slay.
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Let's slay it out or use it the wrong way.
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So I have a little game that we're going to play you two, you
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two or contestants against each other.
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I'm going to win. Well, probably.
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Obviously that that was the whole point was that I wanted to
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watch Drake get his ass kicked at something and this will
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happen it this is basically. Used acronyms on for teens and
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in your 20s. Okay.
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So okay. So yeah, I had no chance.
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For texting Okay. So I just, I want to see how
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many you know Okay. There were some that surprised
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me. There were some that were
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hilarious, and there were some that were like, I don't
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understand, like, I'm. Saying that.
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I thought this would be pretty fun, fun to do, so let's try.
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We'll go easy so Trey can get a few, right?
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Go slow, Yes. Okay.
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So BRB, be right back. Okay.
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Yeah, okay, I don't know how to do this scoring, but it's gonna
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be so one sided anyway. I'm just gonna let you guys
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shout it out. Okay, FWIW, FWIW.
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I thought this was, I would have got this one right.
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Well, for instead of taking our listeners time, I should
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probably just say that, yeah, go it out.
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For what it's worth. No one has ever said that.
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Really. I've never heard of that one.
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Even I OK, never heard of that one.
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OK wow the the host has stunk already.
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I thought these were the easy list.
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OK. IDK.
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I don't know. I don't care.
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I'm sorry. I don't know.
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You're right. I was thinking C.
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It's fine. It's K with a K.
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Yeah, silent, silent K My. Gosh, now those are the easy
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ones. Well, apparently two of three.
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Damn it. So let's go ATM at the moment,
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at the moment, yeah. You knew that one.
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OK, how about CTN CTN. And you should write it down,
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because that is difficult ctn. CTN Should I put them on little
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sheets and hold them up so it looks?
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Cut the news I don't know about no.
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Yeah. This thing could lead to
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conversations, yeah. Cut the okay.
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This is noise. This is good.
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Can't talk now. That's a good one.
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Can't talk. I haven't heard of that one.
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Before, but all right, how about Gal?
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Gal ga L ga L gone now. You should.
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I'm surprised. I've been stumping him a little
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bit. Girl also like, I don't know, I.
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Also want to hear? Make them up too.
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Who knew you're gone after Laid? This one says get a life, get a
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life. Never heard of that one?
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No. If you had the time to come up
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with the GA L, maybe you should GA L.
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There you go. I like that one.
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So AJK. No.
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No HAK yeah ooh. You should know this one and I
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feel like you would say this. One have a kid.
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Why wouldn't you say that? How about, say, have a clue, but
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that's again a silent K or clue with a K?
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We need to learn our phonetics. Have a wait, okay.
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Oh. I don't.
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Know hugs and kisses. Oh my God, that should be like.
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I thought that was. Oh, well, I've been putting HK
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at the end of our text tray for years.
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Yeah, that's true. Now I know what the hell you're
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talking about. I just thought you're like.
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Here's another easy one. I think lmk.
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Let me know, yeah. OK smh.
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Shaking my. Oh, OK, good, I'd say.
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OK. Jinx.
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Here's here's kind of a weird one.
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T ime like time, Tim. Things I miss every day.
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That would be good. But no, that's it's tears in my
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eyes. Tears in my head.
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Like if you're like if you're, that's some shit right there.
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So what I loved was the Gen. Z drink.
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I'm just going to do it so people can drink.
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These are funny ones because it's about the quote.
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UN quote, kids. And the younger people who still
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have parents that are, they're on their phones, right?
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So Mos apparently means mom over shoulder.
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So like the interesting won't know.
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I think I've seen that before. What is this one?
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P911 is parent alert Interesting.
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Okay. If I looked over and I was a
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parent and I saw anything 911, I'd be like, is everybody okay?
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And then the last one would be paw.
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Parents are watching. Paul.
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Paul so. It just feels like anyway.
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I just feel like, do you know what NSFW is?
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I think there's a limit on how many letters there are.
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How many NNFSFW? Not sure.
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No, go ahead. What is it?
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Not safe for work. That's suitable for.
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That's going to be that may be the same.
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That's, that's one of these other ones I've got here.
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It should be in that category, which is the the vulgar ones I
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guess. Well, so Trey, you and I, let's
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see if this changes for Antoine, but how about POS piece of?
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Piece of. Shit.
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OK, so you're on board with that.
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It also apparently means parents over shoulder.
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Oh. But see that's.
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And So what that leads me to or these these ones where they're
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like double, it says there's like 3 different ones on one of
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them and I'm like. You can't do that because so BOL
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could be on later. Best of luck bust out laughing.
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I mean, what about if I put that you're going to go?
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Which one are you talking about as well?
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What about AFK? I don't know.
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What's that one? A fucking.
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Kid No away from keyboard if you're a gamer.
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So maybe there was a long game. There's gamer lingo that we just
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don't know. Yeah, maybe that's half of it.
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So there's the double s. It's like VSF is very sad face
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or very severely fucked. Wow.
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So let's get to the ones that Trey you could escalate.
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Let's get to the one that Trey's gonna know.
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How about WTF? ASL age sex location.
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Game over. I knew that.
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But I'm not telling you why I knew.
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I knew AOL. I knew.
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Let's see how many of these you know.
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This one was hilarious. I couldn't stop laughing.
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GYPOGY, Get your. Going Get it out.
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Get your penis out. Close Get your pants off.
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Okay. But why would you need?
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To text that that was my little note here.
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That's a good question. Like if you're sexting.
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Like, get your pants off. And get your pants off.
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Yeah, you just could say they're off.
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You can say they're off. Yeah, I've done that.
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A few times iwsn iwsn I. Want it now?
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Well, I want sex. Now sex now.
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Yeah, right, which is good. Antoine, it sounds like you've
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said that a few times on your accent.
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And then the last one is kind of a combo with the parent thing,
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which is OC I thought was kind of funny.
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It's means open, crib. Other words, no parents.
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No parents are open. Crib.
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Interesting. So there you go.
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I I Antoine won. But barely not not.
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It wasn't as yeah, I text too damn much.
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If someone sent me open crib, I'd say.
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Police. We have a cradle.
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Robber. On our home, yeah.
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The question should be, how many of these acronyms upset either
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of you because they're really weird?
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Because if I've never seen a woman and she says OC, that's
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probably too young for me, right?
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Yeah, you might well. Yeah, or no POS parents over
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shoulder. Yeah, you're like, why'd you
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call me a piece of shit? She goes, no, no, no, my parents
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are watching right now. Maybe I should take an exit,
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right? You might be a little too young.
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Yeah, or I mean. Maybe she's just as old and as
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with her parents, that's a red flag.
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Or is it? I don't get a red flag.
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For a girl, that's a good question.
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If a woman that you go on a date with says, yeah, I'm living with
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my parents still and she's your age 22. 23I.
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Thought you were 23. If you're not moved out of your
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parents house by the ripe age of like, I'm going to just be like.
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I guess I don't know, like 20. I mean, I.
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I think 22. Is fine.
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I'm in college. I have like a warped, I guess,
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sense of when you should be gone.
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But no, I I think 22 is still fine.
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To be with your back I. Think when you get into that mid
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20s, twenty 5/26/27 and you're like well and whatever.
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Like I'm back in after my first marriage, though.
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Well, but that's not not for a bit.
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How long? If you don't mind sharing, I
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don't remember actually. It was maybe, maybe a year.
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Not for a long, but that's to get back on your feet after.
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That's a whole different ball game.
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I'm talking about the people that.
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But like, I'm okay if I'm talking to a guy at my age right
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now and he's like oh so up at my parents house I'm like then.
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What are we gonna do? Like, you know?
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Yeah. If I go over like your mom just
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hears me getting railed. And like, what?
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That's not a very good impression.
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Yeah. Is she gonna be uncomfortable?
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Or it's like do I need to be? Yeah.
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Is there a sound, a volume level that what are?
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The parameters here I don't know like.
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Is there a rule book that we can?
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Yeah. Is Mom gonna bring us something
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to drink while we're in the? Middle Do we get orange slices?
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Yeah, yeah. Is there.
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Are you gonna make us a sandwich?
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Is there an intermission that we would have snacks, right?
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Do we stop for dinner at 6:00? Do we have to put clothes on
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when we go out and get the snacks?
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I don't. I just.
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I feel like. I feel like.
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That probably be the only issue with with still living with the
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parents. Other than, that's fine.
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Other than it's fine on the on the surface but what what are
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the underlying issues with that person that caused them to be
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there and I'm sure there are some legitimate reasons I mean
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I've we I think we've all I don't know I mean you're you
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don't count yet you're only 22 but but I think I mean I've
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stayed gone back for a month or two just here in between things
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because it just works out with the lease and how things work
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but. So yeah, if you bottom line is
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we'll move on if you hear if you see an acronym that that it
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looks like it can ball and involve a teenage girl.
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Call your local authority. Call your local.
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If somebody sends you an acronym you don't know, is it okay to
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ask him? What the fuck?
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I mean, I didn't want to ask today.
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I was like, what's that? If they send you an acronym you
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don't know, call Homeland Security.
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They are a terrorist. Don't Google it.
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They are a national threat. National threat.
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I thought you national security got it.
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So, Speaking of men, I don't know, Antoine.
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We have switched over now. We were with Spotify as our
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host. I don't know if you knew that
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slay and slay. That's right.
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That's right, Slay. That's right, yes.
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Let's lay it up big time on the down low.
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And we just lost our young. Audience, right.
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So that's kind of what this little we had our statistics
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were for the longest time once we switched with.
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Spotify, we were very, very strong with the female
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listeners. I mean to the point where it was
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like 78% female and we thought it was our, you know, savage
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good looks and and maybe just the way we spoke about women.
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Yeah. Which then you listen to the
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next the next couple episodes and we talked about fat women
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and. We speak so highly of.
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Women all the time. And let me tell you, those
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numbers have changed dramatically.
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It's been dramatic. And the men, I think it's
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because the men have stepped up and they are going, we gotta
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follow these. Yeah, we have.
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The men have silenced the woman, have reduced them to homemakers
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only, and so the woman can't. Listen, that's what it is.
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That's the problem. We should be able to listen
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while they're making a sandwich. We don't condone that, no.
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We don't condone that on our show, yeah.
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It depends on the type of sandwich, Making the sandwich
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while they're eating, while they're listening to us.
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And they're the rest back. Yeah, I just wanted to say so.
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Women, we apologize for anything that might have upset you.
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I think now it's time for you. Because I believe in you.
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You can kick the shit out of the guys, come back strong and let's
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take him back over. Go to your kit.
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Actually, no. Just find the nearest cast iron
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skillet and when your husband's not looking.
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It's a whack up from the back and then collect his life
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insurance. Oh, and just live a happy life.
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That's rough. Without or just I don't even
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know. Or just take that skillet pant
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and make me some fucking eggs. You know what?
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First make him the eggs and then hit him over the head with it.
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Damn. While he's eating them, can I
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eat the eggs first? Now no.
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Like while you're eating the eggs, you get like one.
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Like one bite. Couple bites at least, yeah.
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Got it. Last meal.
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When she was like those Black Eyed Peas, they tasted all the
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way to me, Earl. Earl.
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Yeah. Goodbye, Earl Okay.
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Yeah. Yeah, I forgot about that.
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Yeah, that was a long time. It was a long time.
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That's a good song. So anyway, sorry.
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So how to murder your husband brought you by, that's why.
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Yeah, you know, this our, you know, before we we do our show,
00:18:21
Trey and I do like a. Set a set.
00:18:23
List like a band would before they perform on stage.
00:18:26
Right. Some of ours are pretty funny in
00:18:28
the past. Maybe one day we'll I'll share
00:18:29
mine. I keep them and they're, as you
00:18:32
can imagine, pretty interestingly scrapbook.
00:18:34
Treys today was a lot, but. Every time we have Antoine on
00:18:41
just like this. Hasn't nothing to do with our
00:18:43
whole set list, like, right? I think we've gotten to one
00:18:45
thing I wrote down yeah, which I loved.
00:18:47
My so but. It didn't have to do with frying
00:18:50
pan murders. Right in my employee file they
00:18:53
have in all caps distraction and birthplace.
00:18:57
Read that kid in class. You know, actually I wasn't.
00:19:00
And you paid attention. But no, I you know I.
00:19:04
I don't think I. I paid attention.
00:19:07
I really did. I knew I was actually.
00:19:09
Publicly quiet and shy growing up.
00:19:11
And then one day I just would not shut the hell up and.
00:19:15
When was that? Like middle school or high
00:19:17
school or 11. Like a couple years ago.
00:19:20
Yeah, yeah. Five years ago in middle.
00:19:22
It was today. No, I don't know.
00:19:25
Maybe like question year of high school.
00:19:26
And then from there I if there was a room, I was going to
00:19:29
command it, you know? This might sound weird, but was
00:19:32
did it kind of correlate with the time you came out?
00:19:35
And never came out. Oops, I'm sorry, I didn't mean.
00:19:39
I didn't mean. To imagine when he came out as a
00:19:42
black man, yeah. Actually, you know, I think it.
00:19:46
When you realize you were black, man, that when you got.
00:19:48
When I was, I was taken aback because I was like, in white
00:19:52
America, I think the fuck not right.
00:19:54
No, no. I think when I came out, I think
00:19:57
I was like, I don't have to really hide that part of myself
00:20:01
anymore. And so I can just do whatever
00:20:03
and just be whoever I want to be.
00:20:05
So you're saying that might they're Yeah.
00:20:07
Something to them, yeah, for sure.
00:20:09
I mean, I was lucky though, cuz I have like a very accepting
00:20:12
family and whatnot. Yeah, that is what people don't
00:20:15
got to be to y'all. When we come out, is that what
00:20:19
you're saying? Yeah, you know what?
00:20:21
Sure. Yeah.
00:20:22
Well, I'm, I'm good. I'm married to A to a woman.
00:20:25
Trey got divorced. I don't know if there's any
00:20:26
reason behind that. I'm so when I walked when Trey
00:20:29
was late today, he was late because earlier we were texting
00:20:33
and he was like, please can I get like a sprinkle of you know
00:20:36
what from you. And I was like Trey, that it's
00:20:38
not appropriate with coworkers. And so he was like, I'm feeling
00:20:41
a bit embarrassed. I'm like he was.
00:20:43
I'm stalling before I walk into. He he he Googled.
00:20:48
Supposed to tell him that? He gave him he, he.
00:20:50
I was sending you acronyms and you were looking them up and
00:20:53
that's why it took so. Long as you didn't figure it
00:20:54
out, yeah. Threw me off.
00:20:55
I thought he was talking dirty to me for a second.
00:20:57
No. It's one of those 3 meaning
00:20:59
ones. And then he's like, no, which
00:21:01
one is this? Yeah, why would you think that?
00:21:03
Telling you it involved me bit over over like a kitchen island
00:21:08
and hello, I am not getting behind that today.
00:21:12
That's where the sandwiches are made.
00:21:16
And the frying pans are kept right.
00:21:18
Yeah. Oh man.
00:21:19
OK, that definitely wasn't on the set list.
00:21:21
It was not. No.
00:21:22
But I like it. I like that because it doesn't
00:21:25
seem that farfetched and our listeners probably feel the
00:21:31
same. And I'm just kidding, Trey.
00:21:34
I know you like women. Sure.
00:21:40
The second thing I wanted to say, I love how time just gets
00:21:44
away. I looked down.
00:21:44
I'm like, holy shit. We didn't get it.
00:21:47
Did you even tell us the quick update and how the men are?
00:21:50
I was just saying the men are have taken over the what's.
00:21:53
The percentage. Like almost the same the other.
00:21:57
Oh, wow. A little less probably like 65%
00:22:00
men no. Gotcha.
00:22:01
Maybe they figured out how to use Spotify.
00:22:03
It could be that and I don't know what it is on the other.
00:22:06
The only other thing I know is like TikTok.
00:22:08
Does some point point to the young guy for TikTok?
00:22:11
I am TikTok. TikTok, they do some stats when
00:22:14
you when you do things analytics and I think we have decent
00:22:17
female over there as well. Yeah, I'm telling you it's it's
00:22:21
like, it's like 5545, but it's still female.
00:22:25
Are they of legal age? Well, what is the bar next to 13
00:22:29
to 17 mean on the age? Not legally.
00:22:32
That means they're actually 13 to 17.
00:22:34
I would assume no. We don't have many of those at
00:22:36
all. We've like 4, OK?
00:22:37
So like what? Less than 1%?
00:22:39
I thought I was going to have to leave.
00:22:41
No. I'm glad you can use.
00:22:44
The bars are like little bitty bitty bars for the first like 3
00:22:48
category. The free the three ranges and
00:22:50
once you get to about 20. I forget what it is, 28 or
00:22:54
something. We start picking up and all the
00:22:56
way all the way through until 50 and then the 55 and plus goes
00:23:01
back down. Back down, yeah.
00:23:03
Which sounds about right, yeah. But anyway, so the man, that was
00:23:06
the whole point. The other statistic that I
00:23:07
thought was interesting, for as much as I bash Android, it keeps
00:23:11
track of that. And Android is beating the shit
00:23:14
out of out of Apple and iPhone really when it comes to who's
00:23:18
listening to us. On phones?
00:23:20
Wow. I didn't know that they kept
00:23:22
that. And I looked and I was like,
00:23:23
whoa, and I'm talking like. Which is weird.
00:23:25
I feel like a degenerate for still having an Android.
00:23:27
Yeah, and you should, because again, we're trying to figure
00:23:29
out, are you, you're an iPhone guy.
00:23:31
You have an iPhone. Yeah.
00:23:32
So when we're trying to figure out dinner plans before the
00:23:34
show, it's fucking green, Trey. And we want Antoine and I want
00:23:39
blue. We've been through blue and
00:23:41
Gray. When I told you when I got back
00:23:43
into the dating world, there was women that actually, oh, you're
00:23:46
an Android guy. I'm like, how the fuck does she
00:23:48
know that? You didn't even know you.
00:23:50
No, I was like, what? I'm gonna be sober with you.
00:23:53
Every guy that we talked to who has an Android has been like, so
00:23:57
weird. And I don't know about right for
00:23:59
our listeners. I don't know if there's perfect.
00:24:02
I don't know why you're not weird.
00:24:04
Thank you. But they were.
00:24:05
Yeah, our listeners are lovely. No, Yeah, we love it.
00:24:09
Listen. But probably weird.
00:24:10
And that's fine. We needed some weirdness.
00:24:13
Yeah, yeah, it reminded me that. I meant to tell you Trey, on
00:24:19
that when we talked about that once, that my sister is an
00:24:24
Android user, her husband is an Android guy and I think he's
00:24:30
anti Apple because of. Many reasons.
00:24:35
He's one of those guys. He reads a lot, knows a lot,
00:24:38
intelligent guy, you know, And she and I got into it and it
00:24:42
became this huge thing about because she said that anybody
00:24:46
that has apple is a sheep. And I I did not like that term
00:24:52
because yeah, it made me feel that's exactly what I did.
00:24:55
I was. A fuck you.
00:24:57
And and so I felt very. I was just like.
00:25:00
That I feel like people that say that, and they do it in politics
00:25:03
too. You're sheep, right?
00:25:05
Basically you're telling me I I am.
00:25:08
I don't have the intelligence to make decisions for myself based
00:25:11
on other things, you know, I don't care if if I have to buy a
00:25:15
different charger. And well, you are a married man,
00:25:17
so. Yeah, what do you mean?
00:25:19
I don't get choices right, but. You have to right reach out,
00:25:22
find out what you need. If.
00:25:24
If I'm in an airplane, I told her this and then the
00:25:26
conversation kind of done If I'm in an airplane and I.
00:25:30
I'm on the Internet. I can text with other Apple, I
00:25:34
message. I can't text you sister with
00:25:37
your Android, so I just thought I'd mention that.
00:25:41
Cuz you know, you're gonna go different ways.
00:25:42
Like, I make my decisions when I'm on an airplane, I pick the
00:25:45
movies I want to watch. No, I'm just, I'm justifying
00:25:51
iPhone versus Android, but we now I need to take it back
00:25:55
because we are Android usage. Our Android users are the ones
00:26:00
listening, not Apple or iPhone so.
00:26:04
I'm being punished by somebody to get an iPhone too.
00:26:07
Yeah, well, this is a boring segment, I'll admit that.
00:26:13
But I just wanted to update and that's why I left Ma 20 here,
00:26:16
because I don't even think it was your fault this time.
00:26:19
The flow min. Have overtaken women, and
00:26:24
Android has overtaken iPhone. That should have been it.
00:26:27
Let's move on. All right, Let's go.
00:26:30
Okay. So in one of the segues, one of
00:26:35
our beautiful segues, Antoine, that we have where we go from
00:26:39
something that means absolutely nothing to something that
00:26:41
actually means something. I think you should.
00:26:47
I think you should. Kind of intro this segment
00:26:51
because we are going to shift gears and and actually give you
00:26:54
guys something serious and I think it'll be a good
00:26:57
discussion. But I I want you to since you
00:26:59
you kind of introduced me to it today and I think it's
00:27:02
fascinating. So I'm going to let you kind of
00:27:04
roll with it and and I'll jump in kind of anybody, look,
00:27:08
anybody knows the show knows I'm going to jump in at some point.
00:27:10
So hell, you can't even give it over to him before you're
00:27:12
already so. Let's talk a little more about
00:27:14
how I'm going to let Antoine. Lead in so as I said.
00:27:19
Before I'm gonna let Antoine start this this.
00:27:21
Guy that that Yeah, that did take about 42 seconds for me to
00:27:25
do that. Go ahead and do it unless you
00:27:27
don't have it ready. Oh, sorry, I just got an e-mail
00:27:29
from my professor. So, my final.
00:27:32
So what we're gonna do? OK, I'm finding it, guys.
00:27:35
OK, I'll hold on. So there's this guy.
00:27:39
His name isn't Ron Swanson. What is it?
00:27:41
John Ramon. John Ramon.
00:27:44
His name is. He has over 250.
00:27:49
Subscribe. No.
00:27:49
What the hell, I'm so old. Oh my God.
00:27:52
Followers on TikTok and he is well.
00:27:54
YouTube is still subscribers, right?
00:27:56
Yeah, but TikTok is followers. But I grew up on YouTube anyway.
00:28:01
But yes, that many over that many followers on TikTok.
00:28:05
And he is a well he's an ex school shooter, but he's a
00:28:10
school shooter right? And so he's, like, telling a
00:28:13
story. And people are like, wait, A,
00:28:16
why the hell do you have this many followers?
00:28:18
B, why are you still, like, you know, nonchalant about being a
00:28:21
school shooter? C, why'd you only serve 17 years
00:28:25
in prison? D why have this platform?
00:28:29
But people have, like, a lot of questions.
00:28:31
People are outraged and I just thought we should talk about it,
00:28:35
yeah. So let me ask.
00:28:36
There's a whole lot that I need, we need.
00:28:39
We need I was about to ask so how old was he when he cuz you
00:28:42
said 17 years in there you go. So how old was?
00:28:44
16 years old? Yeah, OK.
00:28:46
Where was this? Shooting at school in New York.
00:28:48
In New York. OK, I'm just if I have it here.
00:28:51
Antoine, I trust you to. Have with that an everyday
00:28:53
occurrence in New York, No. And they're good, the New York
00:28:57
listeners. But this was in a.
00:29:02
Columbia High School in 2004 in East Greenbush, NY.
00:29:08
I don't know where that is, but it doesn't sound like the city.
00:29:10
It's down the street from West Greenbush.
00:29:12
Sounds very suburban to me. When?
00:29:13
She crossed the tracks. It's east.
00:29:16
So what happened is this person went in with a shotgun and he
00:29:22
ended up wounding one teacher, he claims on one of his TikTok.
00:29:29
He slipped? No, he claims so that.
00:29:32
He was shooting over their heads.
00:29:34
Because you show and tell. He wanted to.
00:29:36
He wanted the police to come. He wanted him to shoot him.
00:29:39
He couldn't shoot himself. Yeah, he couldn't bring himself
00:29:41
to do it. So he said if I go in here and
00:29:44
start firing, they'll shoot me. I forgot what that's called.
00:29:47
Some kind of? Yeah, I know, I know.
00:29:49
Something Suicide assisted. Not assistance.
00:29:53
It's something where you go in and you want the converted
00:29:55
suicide. I know we know what you're
00:29:58
talking about, but that's the whole that's what he's claiming
00:30:02
and of course the whether you believe that or not.
00:30:05
And so he ended up injuring one teacher.
00:30:06
No casualties. I'm not just given the facts and
00:30:10
then we'll get into it, but no casualties, just injured teacher
00:30:13
and he was sentenced to 20 years in prison and he served 17.
00:30:21
So now he's 35, I think he must have just had his birthday 35
00:30:25
and he's out. First off, first topic for that
00:30:31
Going into a school with a shotgun and opening fire,
00:30:34
regardless of where it is and injuring a teacher, Was 20 years
00:30:39
the right sentence? No.
00:30:42
It, Antoine did not even need to think about.
00:30:44
That let me ask if there any details.
00:30:46
Was it during the day full of kids?
00:30:48
No, that kind of thing. Well, no.
00:30:49
This is during his. He was like his firing over like
00:30:52
students heads. OK, so there were students.
00:30:54
OK, I didn't know if the school was closed.
00:30:56
He came in, you know, that kind of stuff.
00:30:58
Normal business. Hours.
00:30:59
I'm just curious. Well, why did you go in there?
00:31:01
Again well you said his intentions were to for the the
00:31:04
cops. Was it officer assistant anyway
00:31:07
where a cop to shoot him. So I don't know if maybe he went
00:31:09
in and there's no. Like to the faculty or just
00:31:12
anything? Yeah, so maybe he went out.
00:31:15
From my understanding and and it leads to another topic.
00:31:18
Debate. Topic is it.
00:31:19
It was his. Quote UN quote classmates is
00:31:22
what he's calling them because he went to school there.
00:31:25
It was his school, so that that was that.
00:31:28
So Antoine says no 20 years didn't kill anybody And again
00:31:31
I'm just giving out the facts didn't kill anybody injured.
00:31:34
A teacher went in. He's claiming this.
00:31:37
He's and and 17 of the 20. So how long do you think he
00:31:41
should have gotten? I mean, not not exact, but I
00:31:43
mean just You think you think one of God 20 is.
00:31:46
If your intention is to go into a school where America's future
00:31:50
is like learning, minding their own business like our youth, and
00:31:53
your intention is to go like shoot it up, you deserve life in
00:31:56
prison. But his intention wasn't to
00:31:58
shoot it. Up.
00:31:58
But that's what I'm saying. How can you prove intent?
00:32:01
Maybe his intention was, well, like what he's saying.
00:32:03
His intention was just to get the cops there.
00:32:06
To shoot. But what if he's just
00:32:07
bullshitting? That's true too.
00:32:08
I mean, we won't know. We won't know.
00:32:11
I mean, you can't prove intent. Did he have like what do they
00:32:13
call him a manifesto or whatever the fuck they call him after the
00:32:16
fact where they go and read and see what his intentions was
00:32:18
like? Did he post shit on social?
00:32:20
It was. 2004 No and is. You know all throw it in
00:32:25
reverse. Then if you, for any reason, go
00:32:28
into a school where America's youth is learning.
00:32:31
With a gun. With a gun and start like firing
00:32:32
off. You deserve life in prison.
00:32:34
Okay, Fair enough. I mean, I'm not, I'm not arguing
00:32:36
with that because I hate these. Yeah, I mean the idea and and I
00:32:41
went off on a show, I think couple shows, we talked about
00:32:44
shootings, but knock on wood, we haven't had to talk about one in
00:32:47
a while. I mean, I think.
00:32:50
But I went off on that one and I and it's mainly because Antoine,
00:32:54
I mean, I'm sorry Trey, but I have a 2 year old and a four
00:32:58
year old. Almost both ages and and I mean
00:33:03
that was one of the one of the reasons we picked the school
00:33:05
we're at is because they have armed security, which is sad
00:33:08
that we even have to worry about.
00:33:10
They have this bulletproof Plexiglas type shit between the
00:33:14
halls and the classrooms. I mean, I'm thinking about this
00:33:17
for a for a 2 year old and a four year old.
00:33:20
Anyway, go ahead. I'm sorry, Trey.
00:33:21
And maybe, and I don't want to upset you because I don't have
00:33:24
kids, but I think intent. He's like, I don't have kids, so
00:33:29
fuck. Up.
00:33:30
Well, no, no, I'm just saying. I mean, so if you walk, intent
00:33:36
has a lot to do with sentencing, I believe.
00:33:38
So I I get, and he may be full of shit.
00:33:41
Exactly. He may be absolutely full of
00:33:43
shit. You know if he had a something
00:33:44
written down I'm going to go shoot up this school, well, then
00:33:47
he's full of shit if there's no, you know, because don't they,
00:33:50
most of them have. OK, here's their plan.
00:33:52
That's what they always say after the school shooting.
00:33:54
They go out. I don't know.
00:33:55
And they read, you know, he had all these intentions and shit
00:33:58
like this. What kind of plan is that,
00:34:00
though? Well, that's the only way to
00:34:01
shoot a school. But maybe he didn't have a plan.
00:34:03
Maybe he, you know, he's. I guess intent, I think, has a
00:34:06
lot to do with the sentencing piece of it.
00:34:08
If he came in, it was a onestory building.
00:34:10
He shot up in the air, hit the roof, whatever.
00:34:14
OK, shitty. But does it deserve?
00:34:18
See, that's interesting. You're getting into logistics of
00:34:21
like where the shots were ended up.
00:34:24
What I'm saying is that he could also sit there before and go.
00:34:27
I'm going to write down in my journal or where the fuck was
00:34:30
2004 in your. Whatever that that I'm going to
00:34:34
aim over their heads because I want to be, I want to be killed
00:34:37
in case he got, in case he went to court and he could easily
00:34:40
just write that and not mean. It OK And then another thing I'd
00:34:42
be interested to know is the teachers that were in the in the
00:34:46
the the room at the time the break room just kind of see what
00:34:50
kind of what kind of. Oh shit.
00:34:53
What am I trying to say? What kind of mannerisms are, you
00:34:56
know, you could tell if he was scared.
00:34:58
You could tell if he was coming in there with intent to I'm
00:35:01
going to, I'm going to fucking shoot you.
00:35:03
Or if he was just coming in, not handling the gun and, you know,
00:35:06
shot above somebody. And so you should be able to
00:35:10
tell the intention he like he was like, yeah, I was like
00:35:13
aiming at people. I was like, you know, just like
00:35:15
commanding the gun around like he was.
00:35:17
There he was large and in charge.
00:35:19
And something I'll also add is. That's Trey's nickname on
00:35:22
weekends, something I'll also add.
00:35:24
It's like, no, he did not physically murder anyone.
00:35:28
But those people will have to live with that trauma for the
00:35:30
rest of their lives and I think that.
00:35:32
He should have. Oh, I wasn't defending him.
00:35:34
I'm just saying I'm adding to my thought.
00:35:36
I'm not. I don't think you and I can
00:35:38
disagree. Obviously we will.
00:35:40
That's on some of these other these other points, I'm sure.
00:35:43
But on this one, I I don't think life.
00:35:46
I mean, I think life's a little ridiculous because you didn't
00:35:48
technically kill anybody. And I think life is reserved for
00:35:52
the really special people, you know?
00:35:54
I don't. Know I, you know, we're into
00:35:55
ones going with that maybe. Trey Well, how about the?
00:35:59
Trey interrupted me for once. This is great.
00:36:01
Maybe. And and we always talk about how
00:36:03
do we deter these idiots from coming into a school with a
00:36:06
fucking gun. Maybe that's.
00:36:08
No matter the age, it's like. Fucking I see.
00:36:11
You know, so maybe that's a good idea because, you know, having
00:36:14
armed security guards, not deterring them, you know, so
00:36:18
why? Not well, the armed.
00:36:20
Security isn't at every school either.
00:36:22
But if you walk in with a gun, regardless of what your
00:36:24
intentions are, boom, life in prison, maybe that's something
00:36:27
that will deter people, I don't know.
00:36:28
I love how excited he is tonight, you know, fired up is
00:36:30
any answer. But it I agree, and it's very
00:36:33
similar to I am, my opinion of gun laws is not to let's collect
00:36:38
all the guns. It's just stricter punishments,
00:36:41
right? Yeah.
00:36:42
But you're not going to get rid of all there's 350 million.
00:36:45
Guy, give me a. Break but honestly stricter
00:36:47
punishment. But honestly, I don't know if
00:36:49
stricter punishment is going to do anything too because he's for
00:36:51
illegal. If you if you have the mindset,
00:36:53
I'm going to go in and shoot up a school.
00:36:56
Life in prison, probably you don't give a shit about.
00:36:58
That well, but at least we'd get rid of them.
00:36:59
In this case you you you might not want to try to make it out
00:37:02
You're trying you're hoping. The top of I mean this guy will
00:37:04
you or whatever the fuck it is so.
00:37:06
So maybe you know, life in prison.
00:37:08
I don't give a shit, you know, So I don't know if it'll deter
00:37:11
them. But why not?
00:37:12
Well, this is this is. It may make them think twice.
00:37:15
Maybe so, I don't know. Well, this is awesome because
00:37:17
it's it's you know, there I have like 5 topics about this guy to
00:37:21
get to and that was just one of them.
00:37:24
And let's move forward because, but I'm what I'm saying is that
00:37:29
we thought this was going to be good.
00:37:30
And I think it, I think this is a very interesting case because
00:37:33
I just intent just alone. How do you prove intent?
00:37:37
You can't. I mean, he could say one thing
00:37:39
easily. He could.
00:37:40
He could have. Planned it and wrote written it
00:37:42
down. I mean, that's where we're we
00:37:44
got to rely on the system. It's.
00:37:45
Right, but I'm saying that you without reason when.
00:37:47
You prove it. So exactly if you're not there,
00:37:49
you don't know so. So how does he get sentenced to?
00:37:53
To only say only 20 years because they go we we believe
00:37:57
him. Well, maybe they looked at the
00:37:59
fact that hey to. Your bullets and the ceilings.
00:38:02
Well, bringing a gun into the school, maybe they thought, OK,
00:38:05
let's, let's give him this amount of time just for that
00:38:07
alone, OK? But yeah, I mean, and and maybe
00:38:11
somebody came up on the witness stand and said, well, you know,
00:38:14
he's fumbling around with it. I don't think he understood how
00:38:16
to handle it. So maybe.
00:38:18
Does that matter? Well, I mean, he may not have
00:38:20
realized what the fuck he was doing, you know?
00:38:22
Does that matter though? Absolutely.
00:38:23
I think it does. He's still.
00:38:25
Trying to do something with it but it.
00:38:27
Could be the fact where you know it's.
00:38:30
Recklessness. Recklessness.
00:38:31
More recklessness than intent to kill people.
00:38:34
He was stupid. He brought a gun to school.
00:38:36
Dumb move on his part. He didn't know how to handle it.
00:38:38
Shot into the fucking air. Okay.
00:38:41
Now we're going to make an example. 20 years.
00:38:43
I see what you're saying. So real fast.
00:38:46
Is there a sentence number that would have sufficed other than
00:38:49
life? Because I would say 20 years put
00:38:52
it would put him at 36 and I think that's too young.
00:38:57
I think 30 years, we'll put him at 46 and then he get out and
00:39:01
he's lost pretty much most of his prime youth years.
00:39:07
So I would go 30 to 40 years. And you, you're saying life.
00:39:11
What would you do, Trey? Well, I want to.
00:39:13
He's still on the 20. You want to, you want.
00:39:15
We're not going to find out his fucking intent.
00:39:16
I'm just kidding. Here's what I want to know.
00:39:19
What's the point of giving him 10 more years in prison?
00:39:21
Does that make him more of an asshole when he comes out?
00:39:24
I mean, does that really help society, giving him 10 more
00:39:26
years? It's not about that.
00:39:27
It's about it's about punishment.
00:39:29
It's about this guy. If this guy only got 20, then
00:39:32
other people go, oh, I only got 20 and.
00:39:34
Yeah, but so again, going back to the fact that whatever
00:39:38
happened in that school, maybe they thought 20 years would be
00:39:41
nice to OK, this is a punishment.
00:39:44
Hopefully he'll be a better person when.
00:39:46
You're saying that right? And that's what happened 17
00:39:49
years later, they thought does. That make him more of an asshole
00:39:51
when he comes out, you know he could do more damage.
00:39:54
You know, so I don't know. Or does he change at all and and
00:39:58
he's out ten years sooner and could be an asshole right away?
00:40:00
That's true too. Yeah, so that's that's my
00:40:01
thought, cuz prison is not somewhere where you go, OK, I'm
00:40:04
going to be a better person now when I get out.
00:40:06
Well, I'm going to ask you to watch some of these if you
00:40:09
haven't some of his videos, He's either a really good actor or
00:40:14
whatever. He got me a little bit going.
00:40:17
I kind of like what you're doing.
00:40:19
I didn't like what you did. Obviously.
00:40:22
But what you're doing now is you're trying to you're trying
00:40:24
to do good with your lessons learned and that's kind of the
00:40:30
the cliched response is that he'll say I want to help now, I
00:40:34
want to make sure this doesn't happen and so that's and then
00:40:37
and then we'll get to the other stuff in a second.
00:40:39
But that's that's kind of where I'm at is you know, you listen
00:40:41
to him and you go O20, it's a lot.
00:40:43
It's still a long ass time, 17 years when you're a 16 year old,
00:40:48
you know, again, there's a lot of other stuff.
00:40:51
But now that's the point. He's working at institutions.
00:40:53
He's working at a place called Community Connections Dropin
00:40:56
Center, which is like for the poor and and for children that
00:40:59
are having difficulties in life. And he's trying to motivate
00:41:03
people that have likemindedness. And the second point, people are
00:41:10
really pissed, Antoine and you mentioned this and a train
00:41:13
trainer like talking way. Antoine's not even here.
00:41:16
So I want you to talk. Should he?
00:41:21
People are really angry that he has a platform at all.
00:41:24
Should he be like, I guess I should say our ex president,
00:41:28
when they just kind of said you don't get a platform, platform.
00:41:31
Yeah. Should he?
00:41:32
Should every social media, every everything.
00:41:35
Say this kid though. Now this This man.
00:41:38
Actually, yeah. If you're a sex offender or
00:41:40
murderer at school, you. Get no platform.
00:41:43
You can have them, but it's just a registered school shooter,
00:41:46
registered sex offender. Trey, what do you think of that?
00:41:49
Like having a little badge on your.
00:41:51
Yeah, I think, I mean. That's interesting, but you know
00:41:53
what I'm scared of? I'm scared of those sick
00:41:57
assholes that are going to follow him because he's a
00:41:59
fucking predator, because he's got that platform like that.
00:42:03
But what sucks is the reason he's got a platform is people
00:42:05
are following him. His ass, you know so well nobody
00:42:07
follows him. Guess what?
00:42:08
He doesn't talk anymore, right? This platform, apparently,
00:42:11
though, is for good. That I'm seeing through that.
00:42:15
Oh, well, I like this thing. We're going to get to that.
00:42:17
Go ahead. So we're talking about platform.
00:42:21
My whole point is people that are pissed that he has a
00:42:23
following. But what if that following I
00:42:24
wrote down? What if that following is for
00:42:26
good? So he has.
00:42:28
How many people do you say? Over. 250 people.
00:42:32
Well, what if he literally sitting there saying, you know
00:42:34
what, I'm trying to help you not feel this way, Don't go through
00:42:38
with he's doing all these motivational speaking.
00:42:42
That's not good. I think it's informative.
00:42:44
I don't think he should have A at first I was like, you know
00:42:46
what? Cuz I thought about this a lot
00:42:49
today. I just thought to myself, you.
00:42:52
Prep more than Trey for the. Time.
00:42:55
Well, I just thought to myself, you know what?
00:42:56
Maybe a good way to deter people from doing this in the future is
00:42:59
to have someone who like did it and like went through it be
00:43:02
like, hey, maybe don't. But his attitude about it is
00:43:05
just not he is not sorry enough. Oh, you don't see, you don't see
00:43:10
sorrow in his words. No, not at all.
00:43:12
Based off of like, how he like based off of like how he was
00:43:15
saying things. I was like, you're not that
00:43:16
sorry. I mean it.
00:43:19
Now I have to go back and rewatch it because that's
00:43:20
interesting to me. Like, I like that.
00:43:22
So when you heard me just say that I was listening and I felt
00:43:25
this, you know, this kind of. And I get it because it was.
00:43:30
The way it was delivered, it wasn't this, like he wasn't
00:43:32
bawling and he wasn't whatever, but he was a little choked up at
00:43:36
times. And you're saying that could
00:43:38
easily be? For me it was the words he used
00:43:41
and I was like that. Well, one of those we can go to,
00:43:44
I'll skip around a little bit, is the people are upset that he
00:43:50
was calling them his classmates and not his victims.
00:43:55
So if you've truly learned after 17 years in prison, you come
00:43:58
out. And you're giving speeches, you
00:44:01
should be using the word victim instead of classmates, because
00:44:04
classmates implies. Equal friends and buddy body.
00:44:08
And I don't know if the victim, I don't know because it would
00:44:12
not just not just anybody that maybe the guns hit emotional
00:44:18
scarred trauma. How old were these kids again?
00:44:20
You said teenage high school? Okay okay, I was about to say.
00:44:23
Cuz I'm wondering if they were too young to realize what the
00:44:25
fuck was going on to but I guess teenagers.
00:44:28
They're like 6. Cool.
00:44:30
That guy's a cowboy. But again, yeah, and I guess I
00:44:33
keep going back to how the scenario happened.
00:44:36
Like did he come in pointing the gun at the students and he was
00:44:42
basically threatening. But is there a scenario that
00:44:45
it's okay to bring a gun? We live in Texas, so I mean, I
00:44:50
walk into a supermarket and I see like, so today I was pumping
00:44:53
gas before I came over here. Security guy got out and he had
00:44:56
a gun on his hip, you know, just a security guard.
00:44:58
But I'm just saying it would carry her.
00:45:00
But in Texas we see guns all the time.
00:45:02
So if he walks in with a a fucking shotgun, I get it.
00:45:05
He's walking in with a gun, right?
00:45:07
Okay. I get it.
00:45:09
But as long as he's not pointing at me, I see somebody walking
00:45:12
around with a shotgun in Texas. I'm probably not going to be too
00:45:15
Oh my God, he's walking in with a gun.
00:45:16
Let me go. I guarantee you if I fired a
00:45:18
shotgun, I I get that. No, I get that.
00:45:21
Part of it be pointed at. Right.
00:45:23
So if someone just like, has a gun in there, they're just like,
00:45:25
walking. Around like, yeah, but but like
00:45:28
and again, Did he fumble around with it?
00:45:30
Did he come in pointing and threatening people and then shot
00:45:33
up in the air? I guess I'm trying.
00:45:35
But what is that? But it's still because it's.
00:45:37
Very. It's not a good thing, because I
00:45:39
guess I wouldn't consider myself a victim if some dumbass kid
00:45:42
walk in with a shotgun, accidentally fumbles around,
00:45:45
shoots it up in the air. It was scared the shit out of
00:45:47
me, but I I wouldn't consider myself a victim thinking Oh my
00:45:50
God, I could have accident. Almost died.
00:45:52
That's where I'm trying to understand.
00:45:53
Yeah, he was being very purposeful with his actions that
00:45:56
day. That that's that's what it seems
00:45:58
to be. And he he claims that too that
00:46:00
he was purposeful. But, but I get what you're
00:46:03
saying. My my response to that is that
00:46:05
there are in whether or not, and I give people a hard time
00:46:08
sometimes about being too too much of A weenie or you know
00:46:13
this everybody's offended by everything and I hate that.
00:46:16
But if you're in a school like that and you're 16 and and
00:46:19
141516 whatever, and what they're talking about is that
00:46:23
you come in and you feel like I could have died if he had turned
00:46:28
and shot me. Because that is closer than most
00:46:31
people will ever get. If he was like literally in the
00:46:34
same space, not maybe this small in our studio, but and then all
00:46:39
of a sudden you have to live with that and you're always
00:46:42
maybe looking around or and so victim.
00:46:45
Can be emotional and mental as well in my opinion.
00:46:48
And and again, I'm definitely putting your face on for that
00:46:51
expression. If I agree with you, I think
00:46:55
okay, it's time to move on from it.
00:46:57
You talk to somebody, a therapist if you need it.
00:46:59
But okay, he didn't kill anybody.
00:47:01
Whatever. Like you said, he could have
00:47:03
been but. But that's.
00:47:06
I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
00:47:07
I'm just saying that's what's happening Antoine.
00:47:08
Right. He's getting people are just
00:47:10
like, quit calling them your classmates.
00:47:12
Your classmates are there for each other or your classmates
00:47:15
are friends and these aren't your friends.
00:47:18
So you made it clear that you think that they, even though his
00:47:21
intent wasn't there to go. To his classmates.
00:47:25
Fair enough. Got you, According to him or his
00:47:27
victim. According to him, there's
00:47:28
victims either way. His his intent, According to
00:47:32
him, was that he wasn't there to kill anybody.
00:47:35
Accept himself. Right.
00:47:36
OK, What do you think? We guess.
00:47:40
I'm like, what do you think? I didn't even ask you a
00:47:42
question. We think about the question I
00:47:43
did not ask. We'll move on from the platform
00:47:46
thing because you you think absolutely not.
00:47:48
No way whatever, Even if it's for good.
00:47:51
And I don't know Trey I'm for. Who makes that judgment then?
00:47:54
If he if he doesn't deserve a platform, does everybody go
00:47:57
through an interview process? Before let's get a Facebook page
00:48:00
or Instagram page. So how do we figure?
00:48:02
That out all just maybe that's kind of it's like the list of
00:48:04
things you can't do once you're like a registered felon, you
00:48:06
know? But the badge idea is very,
00:48:09
very. And I thought, like the badge I
00:48:11
did. But you know what?
00:48:12
If people are gonna follow him that, I mean, that's the way to
00:48:14
get him off off the Internet anyway.
00:48:16
Yeah. If nobody follows him, then he
00:48:18
has no message. He's, He's.
00:48:20
Yeah, but what does people want to follow?
00:48:21
Because they want to hear his message, right?
00:48:23
Well, again, everybody's gonna. I mean there's.
00:48:26
I didn't follow him, just cuz I watched him, but there's fucked
00:48:29
up people everywhere that have messages we don't.
00:48:32
I mean, we don't follow him because maybe we don't know
00:48:34
they're out there. But I mean, I guarantee if we
00:48:36
searched sex offenders out there, I guarantee there's the
00:48:38
same asshole talking about, hey, you know, this is how you go do
00:48:42
this. Or XYZ, whatever the case maybe
00:48:44
is, they're out there, you know? So guess what?
00:48:46
If you don't follow them, they they don't have followers.
00:48:48
Guess what? They're not going to be on there
00:48:50
anymore. But are you hinting that that
00:48:52
some of the people that follow him are still like minded in the
00:48:56
sense that they're they're they are also interested in school
00:49:00
shootings? Or maybe they're just as much to
00:49:02
blame for giving him a voice. Well, that's another.
00:49:06
That's what everybody's saying is how can these people follow
00:49:08
my head? And I get that, OK?
00:49:10
These same people that are griping, they're listening to
00:49:12
him too, right? You know, OK, Right.
00:49:15
Well, no, I don't know. I mean, I don't know that mean
00:49:18
they're griping about something. Well, they know he has the plat,
00:49:20
they know he has the amount of followers slash subscribers and
00:49:24
and they know they know that much.
00:49:27
That doesn't mean that they subscribed or followed him.
00:49:30
So and I get, I get all that you're saying.
00:49:32
I love it because. This is the whole point.
00:49:35
If all of us were like, yeah, you know, he should get this and
00:49:37
this and this and let's move on. There's no conversation.
00:49:41
But this is so interesting to me and I'm avoiding.
00:49:45
I'm avoiding moving on to the next topic.
00:49:49
But I think everybody watching or listening is going to be
00:49:51
like, oh hell yeah, here we go. This is what it's like.
00:49:56
It it. I knew it was coming when I
00:49:57
started reading. I knew.
00:50:02
That this was guy that just sounded bad anyway and it and or
00:50:08
not. I knew it was coming when I
00:50:11
started reading this and I said okay, here we go.
00:50:13
What am I going to say about this?
00:50:14
I have to be careful which we all do.
00:50:17
And I and again I don't want people in to want to think that
00:50:21
when we have you on this show we have to bring this up.
00:50:26
I do think that you're an intelligent man.
00:50:29
I do think that. We hear a lot of things, but
00:50:31
I'll I'll just stop there for for the boredom, for the boredom
00:50:36
of our I'm curious where this is going down.
00:50:38
I think that that dark color, the dark color, I don't want
00:50:43
people to think that we have them on and we've got to all all
00:50:46
of a sudden jump on these race topics.
00:50:48
But in this case, there are a lot of people that are, that are
00:50:53
of color. Is that the right way?
00:50:55
Damnit Trey's yelled at me before.
00:50:57
He's like, that's not how you say it.
00:51:00
Of of black people who have come on and said, hey, a black man in
00:51:05
this same situation gets way more than 20 years.
00:51:09
This is in what got me, Antoine, because I told you how fired up
00:51:15
I was about this one particular black woman that was going, she
00:51:18
was going off. She said a lot of things.
00:51:20
And I and I wrote them all down. Too, I was like, I got I got to
00:51:23
write these down. Her name is Detura Joan.
00:51:26
Joan is, by the way, I think it's Jones, but she put a Z on
00:51:29
it to make it sound cool. But and I had my notes here
00:51:35
somewhere, but I think it was this idea that people are
00:51:41
looking for it. I feel like they're looking for
00:51:43
something to to they're saying that this is more of systemic
00:51:48
racism. This is a white privilege.
00:51:52
I mean, I just, we can't have anything that that like you and
00:51:54
I just had or the three of us just had a conversation about
00:51:57
this without anything to do with race.
00:51:59
Yeah, at all. He came in, he's an asshole.
00:52:02
He did this. He gets life.
00:52:04
I'm like 30 or 40 years, which I don't think is that lenient and
00:52:06
it's not like I'm like he's white so I'm only going to give
00:52:09
him 30 or 40 years. If he's black then I agree with
00:52:12
that's it's just, it's just it gets me so fired up and this one
00:52:15
woman that came on and that, that I looked at in response
00:52:19
which is just so adamant about. Oppression and how this is what
00:52:24
we're still in and it and we have such a long way to go still
00:52:28
how did it get to that from? Well, that's that was the
00:52:30
problem. Assuming then John Romano is a
00:52:32
white guy. Yes.
00:52:33
Did he shoot a black teacher? No, no.
00:52:35
The whole point is get in race. The sentence was only 20 years,
00:52:39
and what they're saying is that if it was that there are black
00:52:42
men. Her point was that there, and a
00:52:44
lot of others too I read, were that other a lot of black men
00:52:47
and I suppose women too, that are in prison for.
00:52:51
Like selling weed, right? For for nonviolent crime, Gosh.
00:52:54
I do have an example of that pulled.
00:52:56
Up. And if you, I'm glad because my
00:52:58
my big comment to this woman was that you didn't provide me with
00:53:02
any fucking example at all. You're just you're spouting off
00:53:05
without any. She just went straight to race
00:53:06
if it was a black guy. She went to it and didn't give
00:53:09
me an example. I mean, I'm like, look, how do.
00:53:10
I mean, I guarantee you there's nobody that that went to jail
00:53:13
for an for a maybe a pound of weed in 2004.
00:53:18
That's in there 20 years later. Maybe I'm wrong.
00:53:21
I can't imagine. Give me your.
00:53:23
I'd love to hear your. So in that she like, talks, she
00:53:27
like jumps straight to race. And I kind of don't appreciate
00:53:31
her doing that because I think it like takes away from like the
00:53:36
broader point that like he did in my opinion, served too little
00:53:41
of a sentence for like what he did or I put it to do.
00:53:44
Where am I going with this? So, but she talks about how not.
00:53:50
Everyone can do this, and I'm kidding, she.
00:53:53
Talks about how if he was black, he probably would have got
00:53:57
there. Are if he was black probably
00:54:00
would have gotten like a larger or like a longer sentence,
00:54:03
right? Given the.
00:54:04
That was your point. And.
00:54:06
I don't have any, to be honest with you.
00:54:08
I haven't heard about black school shooters.
00:54:13
I don't have any statistics to black that app to be.
00:54:15
Honest, these guys aren't. Making this look very Yeah, it
00:54:17
does seem to be always white guys doing this dumb shit.
00:54:21
Well, that's Okay. It's.
00:54:22
Interesting. Why is it that these types of
00:54:25
shooters, if you want to call everybody shooters, are white?
00:54:28
And then you've got the nighttime gang stuff is black
00:54:33
more, more so than not. And it's like it's it's very
00:54:36
like, it's like it's part of it. Isn't that weird?
00:54:40
It's like it's part of your ethnicity.
00:54:42
Well, school shooters, it's in our blood, but in our blood over
00:54:47
here is to be gang and just shoot people in the street.
00:54:49
It's so weird. It's When is the last black?
00:54:53
School shooter you've seen. I've never heard of a black
00:54:56
school. I mean, I've seen a couple mass
00:54:57
shooters, but I think they were more like actually African or
00:55:00
like Northern Africa. Or like the DC sniper.
00:55:02
Yeah, the DC Sniper. I think that's the only one I
00:55:03
can think of. Maybe.
00:55:04
But isn't that interesting? It's very.
00:55:06
Anyway, go ahead. I didn't mean to.
00:55:09
But I was like, I don't. So I don't think, like, that's
00:55:14
not even a thing to my knowledge at this moment.
00:55:17
You know, like a black school shooter.
00:55:19
But. She had kind of a point within
00:55:25
her point that she didn't say. Actually, I just kind of thought
00:55:27
about it. One point within a point about
00:55:31
it was kind of a 5 minute rant that you.
00:55:34
But there are black people, and I don't know.
00:55:38
This should not only include racist, I think I mean.
00:55:41
I don't even think this should be have anything to do with the
00:55:43
race to be honest, cuz I don't know anyway.
00:55:45
But take your time. There are just people in prison
00:55:48
who have done less, who had got more time.
00:55:51
All right, well, I found an example of a black man, perfect,
00:55:54
who was given life without parole in 2019 for being in
00:55:58
possession of 43.71 grams of marijuana.
00:56:00
That can't be true. It Is it really?
00:56:02
Well, that's ridiculous. What state?
00:56:04
I'm curious. There you go.
00:56:07
Yeah, they still have some issues.
00:56:08
And it happened to. It happened How?
00:56:10
Much How much pot? 43.71.
00:56:13
Well, duh. In that case, not kidding.
00:56:15
Yeah, but then there. Was a lot of pot, but there.
00:56:17
Was another black man who was actually involved in, like,
00:56:21
Desert Store. I'm like, served for that.
00:56:22
He served for the military. Yeah, whatever.
00:56:25
It's. Called whatever that shit is he.
00:56:27
Was involved in Operation Desert Store and he ended up getting
00:56:31
like life in prison for also being.
00:56:35
Being in my session if we so. You're saying there's a lot of
00:56:36
drug? Yeah, but mind you, mind you,
00:56:39
both of these people were habitual.
00:56:42
Repeat offenders hold on. Something like that.
00:56:45
Yeah, habitual. Why can't I see it?
00:56:49
Habitual offenders, pretty much. But The thing is, there are
00:56:52
offenses included, like being. Like armed robbery.
00:56:56
No burglary. Like burglary or being a felon
00:57:00
in possession of a firearm, Right.
00:57:02
So when I add up being a felon in possession of a firearm,
00:57:05
burglary and being in possession of weed and you're getting life
00:57:08
in prison. You mean that's extreme?
00:57:11
Exactly. But so I think her point like
00:57:14
she should have like provided a lot of detail when saying
00:57:18
something that like. Acquainted, I think.
00:57:21
But it's not even just black people.
00:57:23
There are people in prison for doing far less bad things.
00:57:27
For who? Are you serving more time?
00:57:29
Who got sent in some more time? Well, but that might, I guess my
00:57:33
response to that is simple. It's about that those fuck ups
00:57:37
with the judicial system and and maybe it's not, it's not this
00:57:41
guy's fault that they they did that.
00:57:44
You know what I mean? It's like life in prison is
00:57:45
ridiculous. Maybe the 20 years for this guy
00:57:48
was right and this life in prison stuff.
00:57:49
Well, the hell. Not his fault, but it's a
00:57:51
testament to our judicial system not being at all my.
00:57:57
Just said it wasn't just black guys, though you said it was
00:58:00
other people too that have been in for far, far less and far,
00:58:03
far longer. Yeah, it's not about it
00:58:05
shouldn't be about the race is much about, well, what I've
00:58:07
heard more so it's it's not. It's not.
00:58:10
OK, so we agree. Let's talk it out.
00:58:12
It's not so much about race, but more so about money.
00:58:15
If if you're able to afford a good lawyer, you may be able to
00:58:20
get the 20 year sentence. If you're not able to afford,
00:58:24
you know you're you get the the court appointed lawyer because
00:58:27
you can't afford a lawyer. Guess what?
00:58:28
You end up with fucking life in prison, you know?
00:58:30
But also it comes out of left field with dish.
00:58:33
I love it like, but I didn't even think of that.
00:58:35
Yeah, but I think it's also testament to like our judicial
00:58:37
system. It's like, it's not like what's
00:58:41
the word? It's not.
00:58:43
There's no synergy amongst states, which I guess states I
00:58:47
got out Park Park. But it's just like, it's really
00:58:50
fucked up. Like, you know, I think it
00:58:54
should be more in line and more In Sync across like the states.
00:58:59
And I also think that one guy shouldn't get life in prison for
00:59:04
having this much weed over here and like two months for having
00:59:07
this much weed over here. It's just I don't know but it
00:59:11
just. It's like.
00:59:12
States rights versus. Federal, yeah.
00:59:14
That's, well, it's a very, when you really look at it, it's a
00:59:17
very like deep and complicated and like a nuance.
00:59:19
Issue, yeah, that's why I said. Oh, but like, I'm thinking it's
00:59:23
just like, I don't think that people.
00:59:28
Well, when you compare it to this guy who got 20 years, 20
00:59:32
years for like attempting murder, pretty much to America's
00:59:36
youth, he got 20 years as opposed to like.
00:59:40
A drug Lords getting like that's a bad example cuz he's proud.
00:59:44
Yeah, the drug Lords are like some little, like some high
00:59:47
school teenager is getting like forever.
00:59:49
Many years for like more years for selling.
00:59:50
Pots, we have to be careful because some of the cartel are
00:59:54
our listeners. Sorry.
00:59:55
But you know, is what I'm saying making any sense?
00:59:58
Like is it translate? It's making.
01:00:00
Sense. And I would be curious on some
01:00:01
of these situations because you think you brought the get the
01:00:04
gentleman in Mississippi. Yeah, unfortunately, you've got
01:00:08
a jury of your peers. You know, how many backwoods you
01:00:12
know guys you have on there that are your peers?
01:00:14
None of that, you know, Good point.
01:00:17
Could sway a jury. And guess what?
01:00:19
You know that he fucks this guy. You know, New York, NY, though,
01:00:22
that was interesting to me that I think your New York State
01:00:24
would be more of a, you know, you're gonna get.
01:00:28
Yeah, you're gonna. And maybe that's what it is, is
01:00:30
a lot of the liberal views don't really like these long life
01:00:34
type. They don't like the whole death
01:00:37
penalty. They don't want life in prison.
01:00:38
They want. Programs to help I mean and they
01:00:42
that's I think that's true. I'm not going to or I think
01:00:45
that's true. There's a lot of we can
01:00:48
rehabilitate these people or I mean, he had a good lawyer that
01:00:51
sit there and say, you know, look at this poor, troubled kid,
01:00:54
you know, he walked in, he fumbled around his gun.
01:00:57
You know, it went off. Bad decision on his part, but do
01:01:01
we really want to punish him and ruin his life?
01:01:04
You know and and this jury, you know, maybe.
01:01:07
And Antoine's point, Antoine's point, tell me if I'm wrong, is
01:01:10
that that none of that matters. You went into a school with our
01:01:13
children with a shotgun and you fired it.
01:01:16
But how many jury members had kids?
01:01:18
Well, you know. I don't know.
01:01:21
But I mean, a lot of this shit plays into it, you know?
01:01:23
And it's unfortunate, it's unfortunate, but I mean if you
01:01:27
had me and you as as jury member, you're going to be a
01:01:31
little bit more I. Lied Antoine.
01:01:33
I'm not going to lie to you. I tell him I'm racist and then
01:01:35
they're like, all right, you can go home.
01:01:36
Yeah, I mean, you're going to sit there and say send this
01:01:38
mother fucker to prison, you know, forever.
01:01:40
You know, on my side I'm, I may be looking at the fact, well,
01:01:43
you know, this, that and the other it wasn't his intent,
01:01:47
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You're looking at the fact my
01:01:49
kid could have been in there. Fuck him him away.
01:01:51
You know so. Well, and there's a lot of the
01:01:54
details that, of course, we don't know exactly.
01:01:56
I mean, it's just kind of a general thing.
01:01:59
And then that's why I brought the race thing in because this
01:02:02
lovely young woman who yelled at anybody a white was, she just
01:02:09
brought up these points in it. It's just like, can we talk
01:02:11
about the issue versus bringing this whole other systemic stuff?
01:02:16
If you want to talk about that, fine, but not now.
01:02:20
Yeah, I did. I I heavily disagree with her
01:02:22
decision to do that because they didn't get muddled or what could
01:02:25
have been a great point. Maybe.
01:02:26
I don't know what she had planned, or rather that.
01:02:29
She went off. I've got to get.
01:02:31
About traveling for some reason, by the way.
01:02:32
Yeah, by the way, there we go. I found my notes.
01:02:35
She talked about traveling like no, no.
01:02:38
First off, no other country things the way we do.
01:02:39
Which how does she know? She didn't know it.
01:02:42
Come on, where is she from? Who?
01:02:43
Right, exactly. Can you tell you that?
01:02:45
Just say where she's from. I mean she.
01:02:47
Doesn't say. Is it just a random person that
01:02:49
went? On it was a response.
01:02:50
Yeah, OK and obviously nobody of like, whatever.
01:02:54
She said that she couldn't focus all day because she couldn't
01:02:57
figure out why she was having issues.
01:02:59
The visceral reaction that she was having.
01:03:01
But it was because it was trauma and and so she brought up and
01:03:04
this is where I think you and I are probably going to maybe have
01:03:08
to yell at each other because. People like to call me right
01:03:12
wing and I don't believe I'm full-fledged right wing.
01:03:15
I have some right. We won't go through this again,
01:03:18
right, Antoine? Yeah, I, I'm way bad Joe, move
01:03:21
forward. I'm independent.
01:03:22
Lean, right. Admittedly, politically.
01:03:26
Kyle Rittenhouse, remember? So she talks about him and she
01:03:31
said she was a protester at the shooting, the attack.
01:03:37
Well. There are a lot of people,
01:03:39
including myself, that believe that Kyle Rittenhouse defended
01:03:42
himself whether he should or shouldn't have had that gun or
01:03:46
what type of gun it was. Or was this the one that was in
01:03:49
the during the? Protests and he was knocked down
01:03:52
and then he pulled his gun out and defended as people came at
01:03:56
him with skateboards. It wasn't in skateboards.
01:04:00
Any and people are going well. You didn't have to shoot these
01:04:02
people but you don't know exactly what's going to happen
01:04:04
because in a lot of these protests people were were beaten
01:04:06
to death accident. Not not in purpose necessarily,
01:04:09
but if you got five guys coming at you and you have a gun,
01:04:13
that's the argument. And I think that's where I I
01:04:15
think a lot of our youth and I include Antoine and our youth
01:04:19
believe that that was overboard and that he didn't need to do it
01:04:23
and that that he is a killer. And people at myself looked at
01:04:27
it more of. Okay.
01:04:28
He's allowed to do it. If he's not then we need to fix
01:04:32
the system and the laws because that's his right to defend
01:04:36
himself. It's just it is whether you
01:04:40
agree with guns or not. So that so when she brought him
01:04:43
up and she was saying that she was at the shooting of the Kyle
01:04:46
ridden house shooting well it that's in the eye of the
01:04:49
beholder. So she went right there and then
01:04:51
she claimed white privilege systemic oppression.
01:04:55
She said. Black, brown.
01:04:57
Get the big sentences for the minor crimes only Again that's a
01:05:01
very blanket statement and then she's claiming to be a very anti
01:05:07
gun but in our movies show us guns and listen to guns and
01:05:11
whatever and but but she's not addressing other gun issues
01:05:16
again and I'll say it black neighborhoods in in these urban
01:05:22
areas that are that we got to figure out how to help.
01:05:26
She didn't want to bring that up.
01:05:27
Only the the guy that shot the shotgun and didn't kill anybody.
01:05:32
And that's what bothers me is that let's talk about it all.
01:05:36
So that's it. So those are my those are my
01:05:38
notes, Antoine, about this woman.
01:05:39
And that's why it got me fired up.
01:05:41
So I don't know. What do you think about Kyle
01:05:42
Rittenhouse? Should we?
01:05:43
Should we even go there? I don't know.
01:05:49
I mean, it's very how many years ago?
01:05:50
But what? Yeah, to be honest.
01:05:55
Do you? It's like you think it's
01:05:59
self-defense. I think that something less
01:06:03
could have easily have set him off.
01:06:06
And like gotten him to do. So you think that.
01:06:08
OK, I there's more there than just.
01:06:10
I don't think that he went there and was going to immediately get
01:06:13
so like just blasting people to. I was like, shooting up right
01:06:16
it. Was more than just carrying.
01:06:18
Yeah, but I do think that he was looking for any excuse to like,
01:06:22
shoot people, like shoot it up. But I think that he got a pretty
01:06:25
big one, I guess. So that's my thought.
01:06:29
But yeah, I do think that. I think Trey's looking up the
01:06:32
car written house story. Yeah, but I.
01:06:36
You don't. I mean cuz like when if I okay
01:06:40
if I'm remembering correctly, Kyle right?
01:06:41
In the House. Very like staunch, like red pill
01:06:45
person. Like conservative?
01:06:46
Like, yeah, probably anti. Gun guy and.
01:06:51
What was the protest? He was young.
01:06:52
He's young. Protest was college age student.
01:06:56
No, the protest. What was it?
01:06:57
The protest? Yeah, it was.
01:06:59
I just see civil unrest in Kenosha.
01:07:01
I could have. I could.
01:07:02
Have saw it. Was it BLS?
01:07:04
I thought it was BLS. Yeah, so, but like, I'm so it's
01:07:07
like it looks fishy to me because why are you as someone?
01:07:11
Who is probably against this protest, going to this protest?
01:07:16
Well, for the sake of my argument, I don't think it was
01:07:17
BLN. Yeah.
01:07:20
I mean, I'm seeing pictures of him walking.
01:07:22
Yeah, he's. Walking around rifles and stuff
01:07:24
like that. So what was his point in?
01:07:25
Man, that's like, I need to know what that.
01:07:27
I'm like, why were you there for?
01:07:29
Not knowing the protest. Well, yeah, I'm like just like,
01:07:31
why were you like? Hopefully there are hundreds of
01:07:34
people right now that are watching slash, listening, going
01:07:36
and yelling out which protest it was, but that doesn't help us.
01:07:39
I think our in our personal LexisNexis.
01:07:43
We need to do live shows. Callers.
01:07:45
Tell us what stupid idiots we are.
01:07:48
But yeah, I believe it was like something.
01:07:49
I remember Kenosha, I remember that.
01:07:51
Yeah, but like, it's just why? It's like, if you're so against
01:07:58
it, why are you there with your gun?
01:08:02
Unless you are going there. OK, here's here's the story.
01:08:07
Sorry, I Trey just like, who cares what anybody say?
01:08:11
I'm so. Sorry.
01:08:12
All right. Real fast.
01:08:13
Real fast. Cuz we got to.
01:08:14
We got to it just, says the armor itself with a rifle on a
01:08:17
night of unrest and Kenosha sparked by the police shooting
01:08:20
of Jacob Blake, a 29 year old black man who was left paralyzed
01:08:24
after the encounter with a white officer.
01:08:26
Yeah, it was one of the, yeah. And that, you know, there were
01:08:29
kind of a, there's a line of the.
01:08:32
Police shooting ones that happen, it basically makes him
01:08:35
So what he's saying is that he went there, he testified.
01:08:38
He intended to act as a medic and help protect private
01:08:42
property, which is what he was. Going through there because that
01:08:45
was happening a little bit, that people were, their homes were
01:08:48
being and then they stepped out on their porch and they said
01:08:50
don't come here, I've got a gun and it just became a fucking.
01:08:52
Did he provide medical aid to the people that he shot?
01:08:55
Well, that's a good, that's a great.
01:08:57
I don't think I can argue with that, Trey, but I mean, you're
01:09:00
18 years old. You know what?
01:09:02
What kind of I don't know that that.
01:09:06
Just well, and that's a whole Again, I always say this, it's a
01:09:09
whole different topic. I mean, we can talk about it at
01:09:12
some point, but my the reason I brought it up is because she
01:09:16
brought this woman, lovely woman, that I think she and I
01:09:19
should have lunch and and figure this whole thing out.
01:09:23
But she brought that up very fast.
01:09:25
That was her response was I was a protester, so I understand
01:09:30
trauma and how that can make me a mental victim.
01:09:34
But also, I think she did own up to the fact that she was just
01:09:37
protest hopping. She did.
01:09:39
OK, fair enough. She's like I.
01:09:41
She's like, I I think I realized I went to one too many protests.
01:09:44
Yeah, when when Kyle, when this guy finally shot.
01:09:47
And she's like, I'm going to stay away from some protests for
01:09:49
a while. But she, she admitted she was
01:09:51
like a professional protester. Good for her.
01:09:54
No, she said. And there was one of the things
01:09:55
she said. I think she was talking about
01:09:56
movies and everybody thinking guns.
01:09:58
And I think, yeah, I don't. Totally agree with the fact that
01:10:01
I think we're adults and we should be able to handle movies
01:10:04
with violence. OK, whatever.
01:10:06
But at the same time she did make one point that I will give
01:10:09
her credit for and I'm sure that the lovely detour detour I think
01:10:14
is their name will appreciate my my comment.
01:10:18
She I I do agree that it has become so natural to see guns,
01:10:23
so natural that that's the response because of movies.
01:10:27
Because of. You know, action films and your
01:10:30
boy Jason Statham, these things where he's, you know, guns
01:10:33
everywhere. Guns, guns, guns.
01:10:34
I mean that's the solution. Even James Bond or whatever,
01:10:38
even some some movies that are supposed to be more for younger
01:10:41
people, guns are there even. Even nerve gun.
01:10:44
Transformers. My kid is now in Transformers.
01:10:46
They're shooting laser guns. It's just it's become ingrained
01:10:50
unintentionally. Does that mean that's a that?
01:10:54
That everybody shouldn't be able to handle that.
01:10:57
I mean, there's a very small percentage that can't handle it.
01:11:00
Yeah, I did air quotes for people that aren't watching.
01:11:03
What do you think? I mean, is that true about our
01:11:06
society? I do.
01:11:08
We need to lessen the guns in entertainment.
01:11:11
It kind of like makes you think why have we society normalized
01:11:15
using weapons to like to murder people.
01:11:18
And I I think that's like, oh, I'm defending myself, but also
01:11:22
it's just like. You're defending yourself from
01:11:24
someone else who has a gun. You know, it's just like, so why
01:11:27
have we like just kind of naturalized and perpetuated and
01:11:33
like memorized or no romanticized violence in such a
01:11:37
way? It's kind of like the whole
01:11:38
like. Thing like I call them military
01:11:43
propaganda movies, movies that like you know movies that deal
01:11:47
with like like wars and other countries you gotta yadda yadda,
01:11:49
but work. It's just like, why as have we
01:11:52
that's. It no, That's an interesting
01:11:54
topic because I know so many people right now.
01:11:55
They're like. Mind you, my dad was a was in
01:11:59
the Marine Corps. I have a lot of facts for our
01:12:01
armed forces. I do, but I that's like a very
01:12:04
stupid thing. I don't think that we should be
01:12:06
like. Be like yeah let's go like to
01:12:10
war unless what was the. Movie The way they got Osama I.
01:12:13
Have no idea I've. Oh, there was a movie where they
01:12:15
got Osama and everybody's just like fuck you in the theater.
01:12:17
And they all cheered and like. But it's that's not like a good
01:12:19
like that. He was a terrorist and people
01:12:23
died trying to, you know, go and get him subdued.
01:12:28
This is a terrible thing. We should not be celebrating,
01:12:30
romanticizing. This is a very serious and like
01:12:33
thing. And I think it's like.
01:12:36
Mind you, my dad, I don't. Unless he's lying, I don't think
01:12:39
he actually went to combat. I think he was just more like
01:12:41
kind of a mechanic and the Marine Corps.
01:12:43
Well, but look, you need every, every.
01:12:44
No, I mean, he's still he served his country.
01:12:46
The guy that scoops the soup is still in the middle.
01:12:49
He's important. He served his.
01:12:50
Yeah, I'm right. But I much respect to your dad.
01:12:52
It's like if my dad was one of the men who, like, went to call
01:12:56
into combat and like, did die and people in here like, yeah,
01:12:59
I'm like, I kind of like, fuck you, like, you know, I'm
01:13:01
fatherless now. Oh, I see what you're saying.
01:13:04
So for all the people that have. Don't romanticize the people's
01:13:07
deaths like that, people that we've lost.
01:13:09
And all of a sudden you're. Sitting here like it's
01:13:11
disrespectful, I don't know. I get that.
01:13:13
And it's the same people sitting at home on their asses, not
01:13:16
serving the. Sure.
01:13:17
So yeah, and I'm in the middle of that Angel.
01:13:19
I'm not going to lie to you. I mean, I'm the guy that that
01:13:21
respects and cheers on our military, but also is the guy
01:13:24
sitting at home. Yeah, I can't imagine being in
01:13:27
the military. That's why I was telling Trey
01:13:28
last show we did a quick story about a guy that's 34 years old
01:13:31
serving the Marines helicopter pilot.
01:13:33
Now he kicks feel kick kick off specialist for the University of
01:13:37
Virginia and it was his dream. And I'm going for as much as I,
01:13:42
you know, love this story. I feel like an asshole now
01:13:44
because I haven't done anything like this guy.
01:13:46
I mean this guy wouldn't serve his country like, you know,
01:13:48
whatever else. So I get it.
01:13:50
And and and it would really upset me if I had lost somebody
01:13:53
in one of those. I mean, I personally have them,
01:13:54
but if I I'd like. Damn, that's a good point here,
01:13:57
like, and I might be a loss here, let me backtrack a little
01:14:00
bit because it seems like you're talking about, well, let's.
01:14:02
Back in Trey, you know. No organization.
01:14:05
Well, I'm trying to figure out the whole movie topic and how
01:14:07
you're going that angle. As far as okay I get, you know
01:14:11
there's biography movies that are of real life shit, yeah, but
01:14:15
then there's fantasy movies like fucking Transformers.
01:14:19
Some people can't. I'm going there to be
01:14:20
entertained. I'm not going in there to going,
01:14:22
God, I can't wait to shoot a. You don't have a laser away over
01:14:25
there, you know. So I guess you know, I I I I
01:14:29
don't understand why that's an issue.
01:14:31
But not everybody here going to a movie to be entertained.
01:14:33
The brain capacity to handle it. If it's just overloaded with
01:14:37
that, don't see the. Movie then?
01:14:38
Well, why they don't want to see the movie.
01:14:40
People don't know that, that they have issues.
01:14:42
Well, I mean, if you, you know, back in the day when I went, I
01:14:45
forgot what it was called, went saw a Tupac movie, and I know a
01:14:50
long time ago, I don't even know where I'm going.
01:14:52
With it. Just the fact that that's what
01:14:54
he used is an example here that was good.
01:14:56
But I mean, you're going there and you know that there's going
01:14:59
to be gang violence in the movie.
01:15:00
You know, there's going to be, you know, people that hate white
01:15:03
people in the movie because you know, it's predominantly black.
01:15:07
Yeah, Crack. You know, I'm going there to be
01:15:08
entertained. You know, I'm not going in there
01:15:10
thinking, Oh my God, there's going to be an an uprising of
01:15:14
black people that are gonna beat the shit out of me after they
01:15:16
watch this movie. But it's more about just the
01:15:19
familiarity with guns that it's just the norm, like in that
01:15:23
movie or any movie or like I said in Transformers, in
01:15:26
whatever. It's the I think they're the
01:15:27
normalcy of having guns as just. It's like, why are we a society?
01:15:34
Entertained by just like pure violence and aggression and
01:15:37
blood. Yeah, Which we are like was just
01:15:40
like we can't argue. Football being a popular sport.
01:15:43
We we love the impact, we love the violence of it, we love the
01:15:46
speed and stuff like that. I mean, why do we watch
01:15:48
football? We like to see somebody's head
01:15:50
getting knocked the fuck off. I don't think it's bad, you
01:15:53
know, It just makes why do you watch hockey?
01:15:55
You know, not for that. I watch it for the They don't
01:15:57
fucking hold hands. Down I was at hockey, but with a
01:15:59
joy the. Hits that happened.
01:16:01
You enjoy this A. Lot of people do.
01:16:03
I don't. I don't watch it for fighting,
01:16:06
but I'm just saying you enjoy the speed of it, the contract,
01:16:08
the, I mean these guys. It has to do with guns that kill
01:16:11
people, but I'm just saying it's the guns that you're watching on
01:16:14
movies is entertainment, you know, if you go in.
01:16:16
Trey, I don't get. I'm with you, I'm with you.
01:16:19
You know, I'm just saying these people need to chill the fuck
01:16:21
out. Go see a movie for entertainment
01:16:23
of it, so. Or don't go see the movie The.
01:16:26
Most I've ever seen out of. Track I'm very right.
01:16:28
Sorry. No, I mean, I'm happy and I just
01:16:30
don't understand some of these fucking arguments these people
01:16:33
bring up. You know, it's like come.
01:16:34
On anyway, this pre workout extra sorry, extra pre workout
01:16:39
tonight. Let me go back to sleep.
01:16:40
No, no, no, no. Back to sleep.
01:16:42
I didn't see was it when we were talking earlier?
01:16:44
Oh yeah. No, I no, no, I.
01:16:46
Agree. I don't think it's like, no, I'm
01:16:48
not like denying. But not everybody.
01:16:50
Go ahead. Go I'm yeah.
01:16:52
I'm like I duel. Their point is like this is bad.
01:16:54
I don't think it's bad person. I just think it's it does make
01:16:57
you think like how why are we so fascinated by this like why do
01:16:59
we like find this so entertaining.
01:17:01
I don't. Know, I just think it's the
01:17:02
norm. It's I don't think people are
01:17:04
necessarily fascinated by it. I just think it's become the
01:17:06
norm. You're not surprised to see
01:17:08
somebody with a gun in a movie? No, and I'm not.
01:17:11
And that's my I live in Texas. I'm not surprised to see
01:17:13
somebody walking around. No fucking gun, you know?
01:17:15
But we have how many billions of people in this world and some of
01:17:18
them have mental issues that don't know that it's going to
01:17:21
affect them that way and all of a sudden, and that's my point.
01:17:25
I'm not. Look, you're saying you get
01:17:29
you're definitely on the we don't need to lessen the amount
01:17:32
of guns in the movies because you think it's entertainment.
01:17:34
Right. And I'm with you for the most
01:17:36
part. I just think we need to be aware
01:17:38
that there are people that are going to be affected by it.
01:17:41
Unfortunately, I don't understand.
01:17:43
But how do you monitor it? How do you monitor?
01:17:45
I mean you see you see rape in there.
01:17:48
Does the rape rate go up when a movie that has rape in it?
01:17:51
Maybe. I mean, hell, I don't know.
01:17:53
Maybe so. I mean, if you're going into a
01:17:56
movie knowing you're going to be affected by guns, guess what?
01:17:58
Don't go see an action movie. Then you know.
01:18:01
But you don't. Some people don't know they're
01:18:03
gonna be affected by it, and then they leave the theater and
01:18:05
they go. But would people still go to
01:18:07
theaters? By the way, I haven't been to a
01:18:09
movie theater in a long. Time.
01:18:10
I have the point. It's just like.
01:18:12
Is that a thing for young people?
01:18:13
Do you go see a movie at the theater?
01:18:15
You know what I thought? Was it all streamed?
01:18:18
I was at the movie like a couple months, like a month and a half
01:18:20
ago. And I thought that there was a
01:18:23
shooter in the movie because of the way he was acting, the way
01:18:25
he dressed. It was like a whole, yeah, I was
01:18:26
actually very scared. See, I'm not scared.
01:18:28
I ended up leaving, so yeah. I thought that too.
01:18:30
And that's what's so sad is that these things happen and you
01:18:33
start looking around. Like, time to go anyway.
01:18:35
Like. You're like, this movie's not
01:18:37
that good. Anyway.
01:18:38
Yeah, I'm fucking out of the movie.
01:18:39
I didn't even started yet but I yeah, we we ended up these
01:18:42
previews suck. Yeah.
01:18:44
What movie was it, do you remember?
01:18:46
I'm just saying it might, it might talk to the type of crowd
01:18:48
that was there. For my big Fat Greek wedding.
01:18:50
Three Okay, then I can't see some dumbass.
01:18:53
One it lying. For a total of nine people in
01:18:55
the theater, including the about.
01:18:57
A shooter wait wait wait wait wait trench coat all the gun.
01:19:00
In his hands. Most importantly, there's a big
01:19:01
fat Greek wedding. Two I have in order to get to
01:19:05
three. Yeah, OK, fair enough.
01:19:07
We like the Greeks. We have some Greek lists.
01:19:09
But it's just like for example this is a bad example.
01:19:14
Straight people who hate gay marriage, they're not going to
01:19:18
gay weddings, but they know that gay weddings are happening.
01:19:21
They're upset by it. Similar to like you don't like
01:19:24
guns and movies, you're not going to go see it, but you know
01:19:26
what's happening, so you're upset by it.
01:19:29
Not saying that they should be upset by it or or that they
01:19:32
shouldn't be. I don't even know.
01:19:33
That's you to you. This isn't deep shit I'm trying
01:19:35
to follow. Are you following this?
01:19:36
Yeah, I understand where you're. Going with Parallels, you know,
01:19:39
like you do you, it's like they say it's like just because
01:19:41
you're not involved with me, like you don't have to.
01:19:44
Because you're not involved, that's something that you can't
01:19:45
be upset, you know? Do you think that someone would
01:19:48
go to a movie, both of you, and see a movie that a character
01:19:53
inspires him or her? And I don't know if I'd roll my
01:19:58
eyes at the her. How many shooters have been
01:20:00
hers? And something inspires that
01:20:04
person in the movie, and they walk out of there going.
01:20:08
Oh man, I want to do that. And it's bad.
01:20:11
It's violent. It's it's whatever.
01:20:13
And and before they went into that movie they hadn't really.
01:20:16
Do you think that exists? I get.
01:20:18
Or am I being overly? Not in like, like, not in the
01:20:23
masses I or not, but all it all it takes is.
01:20:27
A couple of, yeah. But I do think there are people
01:20:30
who are so just like predisposed to be.
01:20:37
Influenced in like a negative way that that probably does
01:20:41
happen to like, oh, I just saw that guy.
01:20:43
Remember that woman for no reason.
01:20:44
Time to go get in the car. So, so say a woman that's
01:20:48
walking across flips him off for some reason.
01:20:50
He's like, I mean, just mows her down because he.
01:20:52
Yeah. And I'm not saying that that's
01:20:55
common, but again, all it. Takes is.
01:20:57
Why is a couple one or two or three?
01:21:00
And I think that that's that's this woman again my friend, my
01:21:05
friend Detura her her argument in this case was that we're too
01:21:11
is too normalized and that this is causing all these issues.
01:21:14
And I, you know, whatever. And again, a Trey's response was
01:21:17
not, I think Deturas, Detura and Trey do not agree.
01:21:20
Trey, said Detura. Meet me up, yeah.
01:21:24
I just think that the Mint, I have not seen this passion in
01:21:27
Trey. This is great.
01:21:29
The the people for our. Show mentally fucking weak these
01:21:32
days and I don't know where we started going that direction and
01:21:36
and I've got my own issues with anxiety and stuff like that, but
01:21:39
it just seems like people are just so mentally weak now that
01:21:43
they're just looking for excuses to do something shitty.
01:21:46
And then blaming it on something like, you know, when they blame
01:21:49
it on music and Marilyn Manson and all this bullshit on Lincoln
01:21:53
Park was the big one back in. The, you know, so it's like, I
01:21:56
think just I think the the the mental state of America these
01:22:00
days is just going downhill and they're just looking for dumb
01:22:04
shit to blame their stuff on. Do you think that the the age is
01:22:08
like the teenage age, the 15/16/17 is where it hits the
01:22:12
hardest? That seems to be where a lot of
01:22:13
these school shooters, maybe they wait till they're 19, but
01:22:16
that's when it affects them. Bullying that whole, that whole.
01:22:20
I mean, I, you know, when I was a kid, people were throwing
01:22:22
people in the toilets and knocking them up against the
01:22:24
wall and there wasn't a lot of school shootings happening.
01:22:26
Right. Also say, so what's the
01:22:28
difference? Made a comment and she was like,
01:22:31
when I was 15 and 16, I was a very angsty teen.
01:22:33
If you know what I didn't do, she'd have a school, right?
01:22:36
And that's a good point that you brought now that we brought it
01:22:38
up is that you know you're you're only 22 so you were in
01:22:41
high school like. Not that long ago I was bullied
01:22:44
in junior. High at some point, you know.
01:22:46
Yeah, I mean it was by a guy that was, you know, driving to
01:22:51
school at the time. But anyway, he was a six year
01:22:54
senior. And so again, you you go through
01:22:58
these fights. Wait, I just got back.
01:22:59
He was driving to middle school. Yeah, this is the joke because
01:23:03
he failed over and over. So obviously he was bigger than
01:23:07
everybody else. He was an idiot.
01:23:08
Anyway, take it easy. But you know, it's just baffles
01:23:13
me these days that you know. I was bullied on on social
01:23:16
media. They said something bad.
01:23:19
Guess what? Get the fuck off social media.
01:23:21
I don't understand that if you can't handle it then.
01:23:23
Then get off social media. I agree.
01:23:24
You know, if if you're not, if, if you're not comfortable around
01:23:29
goes, don't go see action, movie, promise.
01:23:31
Nobody talks to each other, so it's all social media.
01:23:33
Right. And that's yeah, my 13 year old
01:23:36
was bullied on social media means that.
01:23:39
I mean because that 13 year old is not talking in person.
01:23:42
My role about that is. If someone don't touch me, like
01:23:46
if if you're on Instagram and someone comments, hey go kill
01:23:50
yourself. You know what you say.
01:23:51
Say it back. You know, bully them back.
01:23:53
I like honestly. Or just delete the fucking
01:23:56
comment. Or like this is a piece of shit
01:23:59
and. And I'll be honest with you, I
01:24:00
think I'm more afraid when it comes to guns.
01:24:03
Me handling a gun on my own. And I'm not trying to be.
01:24:07
I'm not trying to be funny is. It's just that I'm not
01:24:10
comfortable with guns myself. If I'm.
01:24:12
I've been around friends that carry guns, Show me their guns.
01:24:15
OK, well, cool. You know, I see guns.
01:24:17
No big deal. But you put a gun in my hand.
01:24:19
They show you the Yeah, never mind.
01:24:21
They put a gun in my hand. I feel more nervous because you
01:24:24
know, what if I drop it? What if I accidentally hit
01:24:27
something that I shouldn't have and it goes off?
01:24:29
But see, that's you over analyzing which is which is not
01:24:32
a bad thing when it comes to guns.
01:24:33
But I don't handle guns, so I'm not comfortable with guns, you
01:24:35
know? So it's like, I don't know.
01:24:37
I don't know where I was going with that.
01:24:39
But you know, it's just like, look, anybody that's listened or
01:24:43
watched the show doesn't need to know where we're going with
01:24:45
anything. You just.
01:24:47
End up somewhere daily, Yeah. And I think that's a good, this
01:24:50
is a good time to kind of move on to the next.
01:24:53
Because I feel like we could say here and look Trey won't, I
01:24:57
think you would. We could do like a four hour
01:24:59
show at one, but we should. Move more comfortable chair for
01:25:03
doing, Yeah, Trey doesn't like my chairs.
01:25:05
I know they're not the best, right?
01:25:07
For comfort. But when you have a wife that
01:25:10
looks for more aesthetic, I say that right more visual delight.
01:25:19
How often is she in here? She's never in here.
01:25:22
Okay, then. Who gives a shit on her opinion
01:25:25
about charity in here? This is why Trey's divorced.
01:25:27
And I'm kidding. I I.
01:25:30
You're right. You're very right in my old.
01:25:32
I want to see a recliner in here.
01:25:34
In my old office, I had a big recliner and it was glorious.
01:25:37
He wants a lazy boy, he wants a lazy boy, but then we're with,
01:25:39
Antoine said. I'm not going to give him a fold
01:25:41
out because he's our guest. You get A2 seat lazy boy, 2 seat
01:25:44
lazy boy. And Antoine will hang out
01:25:45
together. Yeah, Can you imagine if you
01:25:47
guys were just chilling in the Lazy Boy during the show?
01:25:50
During the show, I have a mic coming from both angles and you
01:25:53
guys are just like, hey the lazy boy.
01:25:56
So this is a great topic. I think that it's something that
01:26:01
I'm going to think about and I'm going to keep an eye on And the
01:26:06
next time you come back because I think we've proven we're going
01:26:08
to keep inviting you back. Antoine, you know we can we can
01:26:13
go further with it or talk more about more the specifics,
01:26:17
whether it's the gun issue or the Rittenhouse issue or the
01:26:19
whatever. But man, this one incident
01:26:23
brought up all sorts of points so I'm hoping we covered it
01:26:27
enough with John Romano. And I don't know.
01:26:30
I'm going to. I'm going to look at some more
01:26:31
stuff with John Romano. You should too.
01:26:33
You should too. And just see, you know you're
01:26:37
ruthless. You're like fucking life
01:26:39
sentence. I'm in the middle.
01:26:41
I'm kind of like, yeah, dipshit, 20 years. 17 years not enough.
01:26:47
I don't know where you're at. You still want intent, and I
01:26:51
don't know how we're going to get that, but you're.
01:26:53
Honestly I like to debate and so so so your whole thing all the
01:26:59
sudden he comes out he's like, I mean I'm for life I mean.
01:27:02
I'll be for. Life.
01:27:03
I'll be honest. Antoine's idea.
01:27:05
If you walk into school with a fucking gun, no matter your
01:27:08
intent, go to fucking for life. Sure, maybe that deters him,
01:27:11
maybe that doesn't. But but either way but I mean I
01:27:14
think, I think we've I think we've hit on it enough for
01:27:17
tonight but I think I'm I'm glad you brought it up.
01:27:20
I, you know, have decided that I'm going to be celibate to a
01:27:26
point, really. Yes, to a point.
01:27:29
Look, fuck guns and all these other topics.
01:27:32
This is where it's at. OK, so you want to be celibate
01:27:35
to a point? To a point, yeah, but try to.
01:27:38
Figure out what that point is. What?
01:27:39
What? What brought that on?
01:27:41
Well, you know, and then I swear we have to move on to this other
01:27:44
topic. You know, the last time I was,
01:27:47
you know? You know and and that way with
01:27:50
someone was like back in May and I what what way?
01:27:54
I'm joking. Go ahead.
01:27:55
Like relationship or yeah, relationship or just physical?
01:27:59
Just like, you know, last time I hooked up with someone it was
01:28:01
like, OK, last time you had relations.
01:28:04
Yeah, there you go. You like that?
01:28:07
Antoine, that is a dry spell. Yeah.
01:28:09
When was it? Wait, wait, what was the?
01:28:10
Date back in May, right. But I I was like, you know, fair
01:28:13
enough. The next time May of 2023.
01:28:17
Shut the fuck up, Brian. Sorry, Trey.
01:28:23
Look, Trey's fired up tonight. Antoine is trying to open up.
01:28:26
He shut the fuck. But he's never he's never gotten
01:28:29
this fired up. Sometimes he can just look and
01:28:31
he's annoyed. But.
01:28:32
He's never Antoine. He's never yelled at me.
01:28:34
I'm going to be quiet. Thank you, Trey.
01:28:37
I think that's what I needed. There you go.
01:28:39
Go ahead. No, but it was a back.
01:28:41
It was. So you know what?
01:28:44
Fuck you. No.
01:28:45
There we go. It was back in.
01:28:47
It was back in May. After that, I was like, you know
01:28:49
what the next time I give myself because you know, Mark you know
01:28:52
why? Being with me as a privilege.
01:28:55
And anyway, whether it's friendship or relationship,
01:29:00
romantically or even physically like that as a privilege, I'm.
01:29:04
I'm great at what I do. I've gotten rape reviews like I
01:29:07
might Yelp. It's it's amazing.
01:29:08
Five stars, you know? And Yelp just for you, yeah.
01:29:12
No, but you know, I think I feel like I'm, you know, like I'm a
01:29:16
very valuable person. I value myself a lot.
01:29:19
And I think the next time I get myself to someone like that, I
01:29:22
wanted to be just to someone that, you know, I actually see
01:29:25
that going somewhere, like somewhere.
01:29:26
Someone who I love, you know? So did somebody do something to
01:29:31
kind of inspire this in you with somebody, That asshole?
01:29:35
No, I mean, I've dealt with a lot of, like, you know, just
01:29:37
guys who are like, sure, how are you?
01:29:39
Just annoying. But I was like, you know what?
01:29:41
He was a nice guy, last guy I was with.
01:29:43
But I was like, you know what? No, I, you know, just want to
01:29:46
preserve myself for better. Yeah, I want to say as a as a
01:29:51
two successful divorces, be young and enjoy it while you
01:29:57
can. I'm not going to.
01:29:58
Well, that's true too. Because.
01:30:00
Trey is telling me to get ran through, was it?
01:30:03
Ran so and. Ran ran through Ran's getting
01:30:07
ran. So let me.
01:30:08
Let me put it this way. Let me put it this way.
01:30:10
So let me use that from now on. Trey get ran through tomorrow
01:30:18
night. I love that one, Antoine.
01:30:21
Sorry. So after my second divorce, I
01:30:25
ran through. You know I had a wild side you
01:30:31
know, but I but I think it helped me appreciate when you do
01:30:37
find that one person even though I wasn't looking for them and
01:30:41
and we even go back to our meeting and say you know neither
01:30:43
one of us were looking for anything serious but we found
01:30:45
it. How do we fucking deal with it
01:30:47
at this point is that's a whole another story.
01:30:50
But anyway, I would say obviously be safe, you know.
01:30:56
If you find somebody that's fun to hang out with, enjoy, you
01:30:59
know, just be true to yourself, be true to them.
01:31:01
Because I would tell them flat out I'm not looking for anything
01:31:04
serious, you know and so I had some fun time.
01:31:07
So be young, enjoy being young because one day you're going to
01:31:12
be, you're going to be you're going to find that great guy you
01:31:14
know and and so. And he'll run through me all the
01:31:17
time. Did you?
01:31:20
Did you know you're gonna get this like?
01:31:22
You know, but I appreciate this. Yeah.
01:31:24
Yeah. I don't think I've ever got that
01:31:27
from Trey. I wish.
01:31:28
I wish I would have been young a little bit longer myself.
01:31:31
Oh yeah, fuck yeah, I'm with you.
01:31:33
I. Mean I'm.
01:31:35
I'm married. I'm married.
01:31:36
I love my wife. I think I was about to get
01:31:37
married when I was your age. Oh, so yeah, that's the
01:31:41
difference between us. Yeah.
01:31:42
Is I waited a long time because I was nervous about being so
01:31:46
young. Trey kind of jumped into it.
01:31:48
And I think that's kind of where he and I differ in that regard.
01:31:52
And I but I'll still tell him to this day, like, that's the
01:31:55
reason your first marriage didn't work, period.
01:31:58
I can't. I mean, just, you know.
01:31:59
No, I mean you're too young. You're too young.
01:32:02
I mean, Can you imagine being married right now?
01:32:04
No, right. Actually, no.
01:32:06
But when you find that guy, which one you're supposed to say
01:32:09
no. Well.
01:32:09
There was a guy, I'm not going to say when or where.
01:32:13
That I was like, you know what? If you asked, I would say yes.
01:32:16
Oh. And I'm gonna say I better
01:32:19
fucking get an invitation. Of course.
01:32:21
OK, the first. We're gonna have a second one.
01:32:24
The second one at my wedding, the 1st.
01:32:27
Ryan will not show up. So you know that right now
01:32:30
Trey's better because I had life in that I couldn't go to his
01:32:34
weddings, which I regret. Wait, what I regret?
01:32:37
You didn't go to either of his weddings.
01:32:39
Look, I flew to Scotland for his wedding.
01:32:43
Do we really want to give? Now we'll move on.
01:32:45
We'll move on. But I do want to.
01:32:47
I do want an invitation. I do feel I I will never, never
01:32:50
live it up, down, up, down. But he knows how how bad I feel
01:32:55
about it so. Yeah, I give him shit all the
01:32:57
time. Yeah, but yeah, he's allowed to.
01:32:58
We're gonna have fun at your fucking wedding.
01:33:00
It's really odd. All right, already have.
01:33:01
When's that gonna be? And I'm gonna have a talk with
01:33:04
this guy. You should ohh we both he's
01:33:06
coming on the show. Gonna.
01:33:07
Come on the well. I'm gonna have a separate talk
01:33:10
with him. He's doing one on the show.
01:33:13
I will see. I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna have
01:33:15
a separate talk with him. So you fuck around with Antoine?
01:33:17
Well, that's what I mean. I'm.
01:33:18
Gonna fuck you up well, but it'll be it'll be recorded.
01:33:22
I'm dude on the show. You don't.
01:33:23
Know I don't want to embarrass him.
01:33:24
I don't want him to change his mind.
01:33:26
I like, I like where? What joke?
01:33:28
What joke? I missed it.
01:33:29
You said he's gonna come. You're a joke.
01:33:31
You're gonna come on the show. And I was like, I'm gonna do
01:33:34
what I'm gonna say. Hey, well, I can't believe we
01:33:39
both missed that. No, I heard it.
01:33:42
We'll just have to do that on location somewhere else, yeah.
01:33:48
I don't even know what the rules are.
01:33:49
Is there a rule about that? Has it become?
01:33:51
I'm on a podcast. Yeah, I know.
01:33:54
On radio, there are rules. Let's just say I don't think
01:33:57
your wife would like that one. No, probably not.
01:33:59
I think we should just. I don't think she's listened
01:34:01
anyway, so. That's a road we should not go
01:34:03
down. She's gonna listen, you know, my
01:34:06
beautiful, lovely wife, He's gonna listen to all the shows at
01:34:10
once, all of a sudden. And she's just what the fuck?
01:34:13
Can you imagine? Can you imagine?
01:34:16
She's gonna wonder why we're putting plastic wrap all over
01:34:18
the floors and we're fine. It's just a bit.
01:34:21
It's good. We're putting it over the chairs
01:34:23
and stuff. It's just a bit, take it easy.
01:34:25
We're having some friends over. Be all right.
01:34:28
Let's, let's, let's. We have to move forward.
01:34:31
If you knew how long we've been going, Sorry.
01:34:34
No, no, no. Do not apologize because this is
01:34:40
this is the issue. And that's why I'm trying to
01:34:42
look at podcasts that do actually go 3 hours.
01:34:44
There are some out there and I aspire to be that because I
01:34:48
think I don't I don't think I can do.
01:34:50
I've told Trey Antoine how many times we need to limit it.
01:34:54
Let's do it like a 45 minute show.
01:34:56
We've yet to hit that. No, but not even close.
01:34:58
You. Should never limit yourselves.
01:35:00
We've never, not even a practice show.
01:35:02
Have we done 45? No, it's not even close.
01:35:04
I mean like we like we have 6 topics and after two topics I've
01:35:09
hit 45. And we probably didn't even
01:35:13
touch the talks, so let's. Well, especially with the inch
01:35:17
one topics, we have not gone through the topics.
01:35:20
And there are some topics I wanna get to inch one onto yet.
01:35:23
Yeah, let's go right now. We gotta do it.
01:35:27
Yeah. Okay.
01:35:30
You like Inspiracy there? I love that.
01:35:32
Okay. The other show, the last show we
01:35:34
did and and recently everybody knows there was this huge
01:35:38
government. They call it a government, but
01:35:40
it was a What do you call it? The.
01:35:41
National alert. The national alert on the
01:35:44
phones. Well, there are conspiracy
01:35:46
theories and I'll and again I think I even admitted then I'll
01:35:50
bash the right because it's mostly right wing conspiracy
01:35:54
about this current administration and it was saying
01:35:58
that the this Pfizer, you didn't take the Pfizer vaccine, did
01:36:04
you? I had.
01:36:05
I have all the Pfizer vaccines. Horrifying.
01:36:08
Me too. I'm fogged.
01:36:10
Pfizer baddies. Yeah, I'm not.
01:36:13
This isn't good for me because what they're saying initially is
01:36:16
that the combination of taking the Pfizer vaccine and a bunch
01:36:23
of 5G frequency, I think, I I think I sounded right there.
01:36:28
Yeah, it what happens is, is that it takes away, there's this
01:36:33
gene called the and I'm again, I'm trying to find it here.
01:36:36
The 1P36 gene of course, right. We all know about the 136.
01:36:42
Yeah, 16. And when you took that vaccine
01:36:44
apparently it wiped that out and and what they're saying is that
01:36:51
when there's a 5G frequency at the capacity of what happened
01:36:54
the other day when everybody got that alert that it would zombie
01:36:59
5 zombify, if that's a word. It would give everybody
01:37:03
characteristics of zombies. It would scatter their brains
01:37:05
and make them want to bite bite thing.
01:37:10
I can't even say it with a straight face.
01:37:11
It literally says it would give them the propensity to bite.
01:37:17
Do you are itch, not bite it? Not biting the way you like to
01:37:21
bite it? I'm talking about, yeah, ankle
01:37:25
biter. So what do you have?
01:37:29
You heard this First off and 2nd off, is there anything to this
01:37:32
or is this just people that are like fake conspiracy theorists?
01:37:35
So you know what? I've never heard of?
01:37:38
Heard of it before. But you know what?
01:37:40
So since like two years ago, everyone's phone has come with
01:37:45
5G, right? And maybe that 5G has made your
01:37:50
brain. Has reduced the folds in your
01:37:54
brain. That kind of made it a bit more
01:37:55
smooth. Well, some things made it
01:37:57
something. Yeah, and maybe that's what made
01:37:59
you have that thought that that would happen.
01:38:02
So maybe you're already the zombie.
01:38:05
If you're thinking that that's true.
01:38:06
It's deep shit, Antoine. So you're saying right now that
01:38:09
I could be a zombie? We could all be zombies.
01:38:12
We don't know. We don't know.
01:38:14
That's a whole new. I'm entirely joking, but no
01:38:19
would. Explain the porn I've been
01:38:20
watching. Oh, you know, we can talk about
01:38:24
anything and it's gonna come back to porn.
01:38:28
Trey likes it when people dress up as the jack-in-the-box
01:38:32
mascot. Is that wrong?
01:38:35
They get the big like the big clown guy?
01:38:37
The big Yeah. I'll see that as a bad thing.
01:38:41
That was so random. But I love it.
01:38:42
Curly fries. It's all the commercial now.
01:38:44
I want jack-in-the-box. Yeah, curly fries.
01:38:47
Fries. Yeah.
01:38:47
Anyway, so let's move on from that.
01:38:50
I'm going to give you a quick story.
01:38:52
I want to know what you thought. But apparently he didn't think
01:38:55
much of that story. That thought was below my tax.
01:39:00
Let's do. He's like, am I really on this
01:39:03
bullshit? Right?
01:39:04
So let me tell you this real fast.
01:39:07
And then I want to see where you take me.
01:39:08
Yeah. Did you know that I like to talk
01:39:12
about orcas? God dammit, I actually thought
01:39:16
about Trey. Trey's all excited.
01:39:18
I'm done. See you later, Trey.
01:39:21
There are. There have been a bunch of orcas
01:39:24
where they're attacking boats. There's one bitch that's that's
01:39:27
the leader and she's inch one. Was it white Betty?
01:39:32
So basically inch ones in mini. He hasn't watched the show
01:39:34
either at. All, I've watched the later
01:39:37
episode, our last guest, Tim admitted.
01:39:39
Straight up, he's like, I've only watched the first eight.
01:39:41
I'm like, well, we deleted the first eight, so.
01:39:44
He talks about orcas every other fucking show.
01:39:46
Well I'm very fascinated because they've they've been attacking
01:39:50
boats and the ringleader, I say the bitch because she it's a she
01:39:55
of course, right That's why our female numbers have gone down.
01:39:59
She has spread the word and there are orca specialists, if
01:40:05
you will, scientists that say that they are smart enough and I
01:40:09
believe that they're very smart that they're transmitting like
01:40:13
this is how you do this type stuff and and they're just
01:40:16
attacking boats and it got close and then was on the New York.
01:40:21
Check this out. So off the coast of San
01:40:23
Francisco there was a big, I say big boat and probably a 40 or 50
01:40:29
foot sailboat, maybe a Fisher fisherman boat.
01:40:33
And these small orcas came up to the side of the boat, and these
01:40:38
people in the boat are like, wow, cool.
01:40:40
These orcas, Trey and I by now would have been like, holy shit.
01:40:44
Get out. What's the number in the water?
01:40:46
What's the number? Don't jump in the.
01:40:48
Water. Don't jump in the water.
01:40:50
Don't provoke. Don't provoke him.
01:40:52
Right, Antoine, there's the captain.
01:40:54
They're not engaged. It's one.
01:40:56
The captain went on the front and he started yelling as they
01:40:58
were swimming off and they turned right around and did you
01:41:00
know, I'm telling you, go listen to the show, Antoine.
01:41:05
But anyway, so so they came up to there's like four of these, I
01:41:10
think they call them calves, the the whale.
01:41:12
I think that's right. Sure, something like that.
01:41:14
Let's just pretend that calves is the right for the.
01:41:18
Walking the kids So incorrect. Yeah, it's like not even close.
01:41:21
Yeah, for the young whales. And they came up to this boat
01:41:23
and and one of them had this like netting in its mouth and it
01:41:28
was being playful. Yeah.
01:41:29
And and then the guy would kind of go OK and you'd reach toward
01:41:32
and then they'd play and they'd give these the the kind of high
01:41:36
pitched positive noises and they were like, oh, this is great
01:41:40
cool. Especially if they had been
01:41:41
listening to our show. Yeah.
01:41:43
They're like, well, at least we're not getting raped.
01:41:45
The holes not being taken out. And so all of a sudden one of
01:41:51
the orcas grabs the net and just takes off and they of course
01:41:56
translate in like let's follow. And so they take the boat and
01:41:59
they go and all of them are swimming by the boat and they go
01:42:03
and apparently the mom or a big ass, a big ass orca, the tail is
01:42:11
is caught in an in a buoy line down low with and that piece of
01:42:16
rope is from that buoy. Line I see.
01:42:19
Oh wow. And so the the big whale, like,
01:42:26
slowly put her tail up, almost as if she knew that they were
01:42:31
there to help. She wasn't scared.
01:42:32
She, like, went slowly. They freed her and they said
01:42:36
that the, the, the sounds made when she was freed, the I don't
01:42:43
know how serious I take this The scientists, the whales, the
01:42:46
whale experts said they were cries of joy.
01:42:50
Pure joy, I was. Hoping that would have went a
01:42:53
different way. No, no, hold on.
01:42:56
And all of a sudden they're like, Oh yeah, they're all
01:42:59
everyone in the boats, all excited.
01:43:00
We freed her high five and this is what they wanted.
01:43:03
And now we love orcas again. The humans and orcas have now
01:43:07
come together and and all of a sudden they turn.
01:43:10
No, no, I wish, but I really wish.
01:43:13
But no, this is a good story. So they came back and the mom
01:43:17
and all of the babies each had a Stingray in their mouths and
01:43:21
they were like, they were like, they were like offering it like
01:43:25
dead Stingrays. Yeah, like they like, they just
01:43:27
grabbed them. Yeah, they're dead.
01:43:30
Their teeth are. And they're offering it to the
01:43:32
boat as like a gift. Thank you.
01:43:36
Here's, here's the dead fucking Stingray.
01:43:39
And they all were like and they it's like the people on the boat
01:43:41
claimed that they. We knew we knew this was.
01:43:43
They knew they were weird. They were thanking us.
01:43:45
Yeah. That's normal.
01:43:46
That's normal. Dead Stingray.
01:43:47
Apparently as the boat went to shore, they guided a man and it
01:43:50
was this big emotional thing. So look, I just want to say I'm
01:43:54
not. I am not.
01:43:57
Celine de Céline Dion started singing in the background.
01:44:00
The version gave birth. I just want people to know that
01:44:07
listen to this show that I am not anti orca, that when there
01:44:12
is a positive feel good orca story that this is what happens.
01:44:17
We'll give kudos. Let's let's.
01:44:20
I'm gonna, I'm gonna put the pressure on you now because when
01:44:23
I mentioned Orca earlier, you you had some words and I want
01:44:28
those words right now. I'm not anti orca.
01:44:31
I've always loved well, well thank goodness free will.
01:44:33
They just love that they just offered some stingries.
01:44:36
But here is my thing. So the orcas have been ganging
01:44:38
up on humans for months, right? They've been trying to capsize
01:44:41
boats. I think that what's happening
01:44:44
is. They're trying to, like, create
01:44:47
a false sense of familiarity between them and the humans.
01:44:51
Oh, how about we have them help us out of this net that we make
01:44:55
could have like gotten ourselves into and we make them think that
01:44:58
we like them and offer them something.
01:45:00
That way when we go to store, they like we just eat them.
01:45:03
But wouldn't they know it's better than to offer a Stingray?
01:45:06
Maybe they were alive still and you get the Stingray and next
01:45:09
you know. That could happen.
01:45:12
Or they're just like they're just they're just playing coy.
01:45:14
I think that's true. The orcas are the whales are
01:45:16
trying to kill us. You think the whales are just,
01:45:19
like, fucking with? It's written Uprising right now.
01:45:21
You think that this story I just told you this is you think it
01:45:24
reeled me? Is this is like doing the
01:45:26
fishing? Yeah to you know, I might have
01:45:29
got a tear in my eye when I watch.
01:45:31
This video, yeah, I could tell You're saying that they're
01:45:35
fighting with me and you're saying that I'm the idiot
01:45:37
falling prey to this? Yeah, and I'm well, I don't
01:45:40
know. Before the story, but an extra
01:45:44
idiot for this story. I I know how everybody feels
01:45:47
before the story. I don't know what their plans
01:45:49
are, but I don't know what's going on.
01:45:51
But it's something's not right there.
01:45:53
So you think the Mama whale put her tail in the oh, wow, I love
01:45:59
it. What do you think?
01:46:00
Yeah, it's a long game. It's a long, yeah.
01:46:02
You don't win the battle. Why would you not believe who
01:46:04
gives a shit about 1 battle but you care about the war?
01:46:07
It's not a Sprint, it's a marathon, right?
01:46:10
Well, how many cliches can we give?
01:46:11
Right? How many?
01:46:14
It's not the. Maybe they're upset about Biden
01:46:17
throwing all the pudding cups in the ocean and polluting it.
01:46:19
Maybe. Is that is that a possibility?
01:46:22
Antoine, if you listen to this, show it we We really just
01:46:26
believe Joe Biden cares only about one thing, and that's
01:46:28
pudding cuff. And I told you that his thing is
01:46:31
ice cream. He loves ice cream.
01:46:33
Well, it's a form of pudding, kind of.
01:46:35
Sure, it's cold pudding. You gotta wait until it melts
01:46:37
before he can eat it. You're right.
01:46:39
So it's it's cold pudding. Really fast.
01:46:45
If it wasn't Trump, and it wasn't Biden who you voted for,
01:46:48
who would you like? No Biden, no Trump.
01:46:52
Or have you thought about? That the office is running.
01:46:55
Let's move on. Options, Let's move on.
01:46:58
I didn't know if you had followed it.
01:46:59
I'm going to vote for Rama Swami because we got yelled at.
01:47:03
Oh, the brown one. The brown one.
01:47:05
Oh my God. Yeah.
01:47:07
Can you? Imagine President Robert Swami.
01:47:09
Brought him over Elton the Manswater.
01:47:11
That's racist right there. No, it's not.
01:47:13
Look, you're you're black and you're talking about a brown
01:47:15
guy. That's racist.
01:47:17
And so look, I got yelled at by on one of the social media sites
01:47:23
because I thought that having a president Rameshwami sounded
01:47:27
funny and he called me raises, he called me bigot, he called me
01:47:32
all these things. And I said it's it's not about
01:47:33
that. It's the name.
01:47:34
It's literally just the name Rameshwami.
01:47:37
I have actually listened to the guy.
01:47:38
He's a very smooth talker. He's a little.
01:47:42
He's a smooth talker, that some of his stuff.
01:47:44
He's a businessman. Politicians are, though.
01:47:46
He's a business. Well, no, no.
01:47:47
Not recently. OK.
01:47:50
He's Biden, Trump are all smooth talkers, no.
01:47:52
If Ron De Santis is looking at you funny, that's why you're
01:47:55
fucking stupid. OK?
01:47:57
So yeah, here we go. I love it.
01:47:59
We should have got into politics first, but we'll next time we'll
01:48:02
get into politics. I don't follow politics, yeah.
01:48:05
Yeah, I just. All I know is that our friend
01:48:08
Meg, who let's give a shout out to Meg, I love.
01:48:12
You. I miss you.
01:48:12
I pretty well and and hopefully I don't even know if she's
01:48:16
listening. She might not give a fuck.
01:48:17
She's doing a thing in law school up north and and you
01:48:22
know, all I know is that our colleges play this year at some
01:48:27
point and she's talking shit, so.
01:48:29
Already already nice, so I hope she's doing well.
01:48:33
But when you guys were here, I think that was the the consensus
01:48:37
was you didn't like Ron De Santis.
01:48:40
I don't mind the guy overall. Oh, Rhonda is a guy.
01:48:44
Ron. Ron.
01:48:46
No, because the other day I was like Ron de Santis.
01:48:49
They're like, who the fuck is Rhonda Santa?
01:48:51
I thought I wasn't Rhonda. Sorry, no you got you guys can
01:48:57
talk I. Don'm gonna when I go vote, I'm
01:49:00
be pissed. I was like, why is Ronda not on
01:49:02
this? Yeah, Where is Ronda?
01:49:03
Are you silencing woman Once again?
01:49:05
I'm gonna ask, Damn it, I'm gonna ask you a question.
01:49:07
And I don't know how much you know about this gentleman.
01:49:09
Yeah. Does the name Tim Scott do
01:49:11
anything for you? No.
01:49:14
Is that the guy you had on your podcast the other day?
01:49:17
Oh no, that. No, that's, that's Tim.
01:49:19
It's something else we're not supposed to say, Tim.
01:49:21
Scott might be like a Tim Scott. No, no.
01:49:23
Tim Scott is a Republican black man.
01:49:27
Okay, who I love. His name is Tim Scott.
01:49:30
Tim Scott. Black dude Tim Scott.
01:49:32
No, I mean, that sounded so bad right there.
01:49:35
Forgive me Tim Scott. That his Has he adopted Antoine?
01:49:40
Never come me back. What does that mean?
01:49:42
Trey? Yeah, yeah.
01:49:43
Antoine, tell Trey how you feel about.
01:49:45
What you just said, Scott, That sounds like a super white name,
01:49:47
no? I have a white last name, I
01:49:50
guess you could say it's not like that's.
01:49:52
What's a black last name? That's true.
01:49:54
Yeah, that's right. Well, and not to throw a whole
01:49:59
nother topic under there, but a lot of black people's last names
01:50:03
are from. Slave time, Slave times.
01:50:06
They just. Said.
01:50:06
That's true. You know the name Mech.
01:50:10
Something is not an African name.
01:50:13
That's a Scottish name. You know what I mean?
01:50:15
Like it depends on. So Tim Scott.
01:50:18
This got serious. Tim Scott.
01:50:20
I love Tim Scott as a black man. You love him as a black man.
01:50:25
Brian, as a black man, loves Tim Scott on the I'm saying Brian is
01:50:29
transracial. I'm saying no, no.
01:50:30
How about this? How about?
01:50:34
This. How about this?
01:50:35
How about this? Like it or hate it, Trump's
01:50:38
going to get the Republican nomination, right?
01:50:40
Yeah, and I'd rather him than Ron de Santos.
01:50:43
Oh yeah, fuck Ronda. Ronda is a bitch.
01:50:48
That's God. I wish I had four hours with you
01:50:50
and one. For to talk, we don't talk.
01:50:53
We have the time. Who?
01:50:55
Trey. What do you have to do?
01:50:56
I'm Trey. Damn shit to do.
01:50:58
Look, we're good. I I listen to him bitch about
01:51:00
editing all the. No, no, no.
01:51:02
I look, I look. This show may be released in two
01:51:04
weeks. Exactly.
01:51:06
No, no, no, no. Because this is great.
01:51:08
I figure I was gonna say perfect.
01:51:12
The fact that you. The fact that you think that
01:51:14
don't Trump over De Santis is very interesting and I would
01:51:19
like to pursue that further. But say Donald Trump wins the
01:51:22
Republican nomination, which I think he.
01:51:24
I think it's it's obvious that he will.
01:51:27
Yeah. Why doesn't he grab a guy like
01:51:30
Tim Scott who is a black Republican, who isn't far, far
01:51:36
Republican? He's kind of that.
01:51:39
He's kind of like Kennedy on the left.
01:51:40
He's a closet Democrat. He's.
01:51:43
I don't know if I go that far, but it's close.
01:51:46
Wouldn't that be the so wouldn't that he would probably win if he
01:51:49
if he grabbed because you are, you're going to get some black
01:51:52
votes. Don't you think that might?
01:51:54
Have possibility he'll do that Well, I think he's smart, which
01:51:58
we we're not sure about, but whatever.
01:52:00
I mean, I think he would have a fighting chance.
01:52:03
You don't think he has a fighting chance without that?
01:52:07
If it's Biden, Trump again, you think Biden's going to win?
01:52:10
God, I hope not. Honestly, no.
01:52:12
Yeah, there's nothing putting. Speaking of putting pack so.
01:52:15
I feel like no one likes Trump or Biden, to be honest.
01:52:20
That's the point, though. So it's like so if it's between
01:52:23
the two. Nobody likes Trump.
01:52:25
Why would he be the Republican? Because of my choice again,
01:52:29
Ronda Sanchez actually does says a lot of things that I don't
01:52:32
actually agree with at all. For my core, I don't agree with
01:52:36
and Trump is was just kind of there when he was in office.
01:52:41
Yeah, I feel like he did. Would just be there again.
01:52:43
You don't think he did anything good?
01:52:45
I mean, he could have. I wasn't paying attention.
01:52:48
I think he did some things. Yeah, probably the tax cuts and
01:52:51
jobs and again I don't know. I'm not a pro.
01:52:54
Like everyone shut the fuck up. No one's gonna come at me yell
01:52:58
I'm approach. I'm not.
01:53:00
I'm just saying there were something not you Ant one.
01:53:03
But I got I've got a lot of people that are like it's
01:53:07
obvious that you're approach. I'm not.
01:53:11
I just feel like he did some good things when he was there
01:53:15
and. Let's focus on that, I mean.
01:53:17
And everybody has Trump pajamas like you.
01:53:19
Do. I'm sure he did.
01:53:21
I like I when people I know. I don't pay any attention to
01:53:27
politics, right. Like, that's just like, not my
01:53:29
wheelhouse. Is that something common with
01:53:31
your age? Probably, You think?
01:53:36
Yeah, at your college, which we won't say.
01:53:38
Yeah. Do you think the people around
01:53:42
you are less into politics then you think they or we think they
01:53:48
should be? I think they should be but.
01:53:50
I think probably less involved than you think.
01:53:52
I think they just go with like what their parents probably just
01:53:55
vote for, to be honest. But do you?
01:53:57
Which that's. Baffling to me with your the
01:53:59
university you go to. I figured it would be very, but
01:54:01
I would think that it would be, like you said, influenced by the
01:54:05
university. Maybe your teachers, maybe your
01:54:08
professors. No other friends, for example,
01:54:10
like the whole mask mandate. People were not having that.
01:54:14
We're not at all. Is that not is that.
01:54:16
That might just be Texas, though.
01:54:17
Yeah. Fuck.
01:54:18
We're like, shut up. I don't know mask.
01:54:21
No, but I still see people with masks.
01:54:23
Do you just? Yeah.
01:54:24
I'm all annoying to be honest anyway, but look, no, I just
01:54:27
feel like I want to go up and do them and just laugh like.
01:54:30
OK, well, that's a bit a violation of personal figures.
01:54:33
I don't literally do that, Antoine.
01:54:35
I just want to. Yeah, but no.
01:54:38
But yeah, Paul, they're just so boring and everyone's always so
01:54:40
angry. Like I'm like, yes, fucking
01:54:42
grass. Oh my God.
01:54:43
Anyway, no. But I'm yeah, I I don't know
01:54:46
what Trump did like, policy wise.
01:54:50
Was he the Tax Cuts and JOBS Act?
01:54:52
Yeah. Well, sure, he was tax.
01:54:53
I mean, he has the highest tax cuts.
01:54:56
I assume it was good. I don't a good.
01:54:57
Thing. He.
01:54:59
He put through things that certain people on the right like
01:55:03
which politically, which again, I'm socially all over the place.
01:55:07
But when it comes to border security, when it comes to
01:55:11
economic policy, when it comes to whatever Trump seemed to to
01:55:16
put through what I And that's the problem, is that it's not
01:55:19
about the person. It's about what they're going to
01:55:21
push through. So Biden's going to push through
01:55:23
these things that I don't like. Trump's going to push through,
01:55:26
OK? Even though Trump might act like
01:55:27
a dipshit at times, he's still going to push through what I
01:55:30
like when it comes to a federal government.
01:55:34
I don't have to love this guy. I just want my policy pushed.
01:55:38
And that's the problem. I think for me my whole thing is
01:55:42
just like, will this president, like, not do?
01:55:49
Will will he do the proper work to ensure that me and other
01:55:54
people of color will like will not be like, you know, ganged up
01:55:59
against in the street for no reason?
01:56:02
Also, can I still get married? That's my only two concerns.
01:56:05
Well, you can and Donald has come out and said I'm not, I
01:56:09
will that the Supreme Court's ruled.
01:56:11
I'm never going to reverse that. Well, good for him.
01:56:13
So yeah, I'm not. And again, that doesn't sound
01:56:15
like I'm. Defending him, right.
01:56:17
That's why I'm saying like it sounds.
01:56:18
Like Ron De Santis on the other hand, no, I don't think you can
01:56:21
reverse it though. Can you really reverse it?
01:56:23
Probably not. But he's gonna really try out
01:56:25
really hard to. I feel like he would.
01:56:27
Right. He's he was kind of.
01:56:28
You think so? Don't say gay.
01:56:29
You think so. He was very, he's very against.
01:56:31
I don't want to believe that, cuz I like some of the other,
01:56:34
want to believe. I know I like some of the other
01:56:36
things, but. Look at the facts.
01:56:43
So I mean, I just feel like I just, I don't know.
01:56:48
I feel like, I don't know. I just feel like if it's between
01:56:53
Biden and Trump, I mean, it's not about a guy that he's
01:56:59
pudding or a guy that is an asshole and tweets bad things.
01:57:03
It's about which policies are they going to push.
01:57:07
And Ron DeSantis unfortunately, will push some policy that I
01:57:13
feel is more what a federal government should push.
01:57:18
Oh my God. Let's move on.
01:57:23
We've lost Trey. He's he's he's sleeping.
01:57:27
Oh. Oh well.
01:57:28
Welcome back. But and again we've gone way
01:57:31
out. We've gone way too long.
01:57:32
And I but I love it because this is what happens when when we
01:57:35
bring Antoine on is good conversation.
01:57:38
The only thing left I had tonight.
01:57:41
So you're voting, Donald? I had never said that.
01:57:45
No, one Rhonda, That's all, he said.
01:57:47
No one Rhonda. No.
01:57:49
Rhonda, if it was Donald versus never mind, we're not going to
01:57:54
go there. Let's let's talk real fast.
01:57:57
I mean I'm talking like let's we're in this show okay try and
01:58:01
I do a segment which you know, but I'm going to go and tell
01:58:05
anybody that might be listening the first time.
01:58:08
It is called awareness of self-awareness.
01:58:12
Boom. It's taken me 40 how many
01:58:15
episodes to like say it correctly and and all it is is
01:58:19
just people that that piss us off that need to be more
01:58:23
selfaware of the things they're doing to annoy everyone around
01:58:26
them. You told me earlier you didn't
01:58:28
tell me what it was but you I I once I said do you have one?
01:58:31
He goes, yeah, yeah, so let's go.
01:58:35
So I have this friend and. Is she has?
01:58:44
Like, is this Meg? No.
01:58:49
No, she has like 2 offenses and like if I am a Kingdom and I
01:58:55
have my own laws, she has violated like at least two of
01:58:58
them over the past couple years and I have let it.
01:59:01
Well, I let the first one. She's very close.
01:59:03
You're very close with her. Yeah, close enough.
01:59:05
I addressed it and I addressed the first one, but the second
01:59:09
one tell me why. We were at like a company
01:59:13
function because we kind of work for the same company or will be
01:59:16
work for the same company and she brings up some drama that
01:59:21
happened. She brings up how this, she
01:59:24
brings up this person and I was like that person said this about
01:59:28
me, said this negative thing about me and this negative thing
01:59:31
about my other friend. Why does?
01:59:34
My friend who brought up that person go back to the person who
01:59:38
was talking trash about me. Sorry.
01:59:39
OK. Did you get any Trey?
01:59:41
Did you get any in there? So I so fret, let's my my brains
01:59:46
back. Let's say friend B, Friend B.
01:59:49
So I'm joking. I'm with you.
01:59:50
So yeah. So friend B brings up other
01:59:54
person. And I was like, other person
01:59:56
said this about me and it's about my other friend.
01:59:58
Why does friend B go back to other person and tell them what
02:00:02
I said? And I'm just like okay, That's
02:00:06
kind of like that's kind. That seems just kind of
02:00:08
calculated and messy to me, like you're trying to incite drama.
02:00:12
So who's other friend closer to you?
02:00:14
Or. Friend.
02:00:15
Friend B Yeah, And so I'm just like, it just seems like you're
02:00:19
trying to stir a mess. And why?
02:00:22
Why does it feel like every time?
02:00:25
Like someone tells you something, someone else finds
02:00:29
out or what does it seem like you're always trying to, like,
02:00:31
stir up drama? And I'm just like, really, I'm
02:00:34
trying to like be nice to you, but I just can't if you continue
02:00:39
to abuse my trust, you know? And then also she like, texted
02:00:46
me the other day and I was like, hey, how's it going?
02:00:48
I'm like. I don't have the time to respond
02:00:49
to you, but I also don't want to because I just, I don't know how
02:00:52
to think, feel about you right now.
02:00:53
So that's my first, you know, be aware, like if you're going to
02:00:57
don't just go and be messy and expected not to have any
02:00:59
consequences. That's number one. #2 the the
02:01:04
person who was talking trash about me got mad that I was
02:01:08
telling people what she said about me and I was like, girl,
02:01:11
then why'd you say it anyway? Yeah, I said.
02:01:14
That's why I say to you all the time.
02:01:15
Yeah, but wow. I think there's a little
02:01:18
self-awareness. You should learn there too.
02:01:20
Oh, oh, this. OK, go ahead guys.
02:01:23
I'm excited because if if other person is closer to friend B,
02:01:28
yeah, I wouldn't have told other person shit because.
02:01:33
Even friend B so. I'm just saying I'm still.
02:01:38
I'm still confused. I'm trying to follow good friend
02:01:41
because I I think. Friend R is friend.
02:01:44
Friend B is already Dick to you. Yeah, other person is friend B's
02:01:49
confidant or closer to friend B than you.
02:01:52
And you know what? She called me slipping.
02:01:53
Yeah. And I thought that, you know, I
02:01:56
didn't think that she would. I didn't think that she would go
02:01:58
back and do that. Yeah, that was my fault.
02:01:59
You're right. And I've learned that the hard
02:02:01
way. Yeah.
02:02:02
So don't push it in writing either, because then you can
02:02:05
always say I never said. That the Kingdom of Antoine had
02:02:08
had its drawbridge down that night.
02:02:11
Yeah, pick the drawbridge up. I like that, yeah.
02:02:16
Yeah, trade drawbridge is always down, yeah.
02:02:18
Well, comes with age though. On that note, man, I cannot
02:02:27
believe that we're at the end of the show.
02:02:29
Antoine, we love having you on. I What do you think?
02:02:35
Let's have him back soon. Hell yeah.
02:02:37
I feel like we could do a show with the exact same topics.
02:02:41
Continue on and like, still fill it.
02:02:43
Fill another show. Part 2.
02:02:46
But but some of the stuff is great and I just feel like if I
02:02:52
want to edit for 14 days then we can keep going but the show will
02:02:57
come out next month. This, yeah, come Christmas time,
02:03:01
Christmas 2023. Christmas is actually.
02:03:04
The best things take time. You're right, Antoine.
02:03:07
You're right. No, some of this was great.
02:03:09
And, you know, I thought you and I were going.
02:03:12
We might get a little more heated.
02:03:15
When it came to the race talk and I think that there are some
02:03:17
issues that I'd like to to have with you and if.
02:03:21
He wants to have issues. I want to have issues.
02:03:25
I didn't say relations, I said issues, but if did you mean
02:03:30
there's issues you want to discuss with him, not have?
02:03:33
Yes, exactly. You want to have in semantics I
02:03:38
he's other person didn't. He I want.
02:03:41
Yeah. I was very quiet during that
02:03:44
point. Have you noticed this is?
02:03:46
The least I've talked and the whole thing.
02:03:48
No, I feel like when it comes to topics of race, there are a lot
02:03:53
of things that I am very passionate about and frustrated
02:03:57
with when people say and I have to be careful and I feel like I
02:04:03
have to be careful. And that's another topic in and
02:04:05
of itself when you come on the show, because I don't view you
02:04:09
as our black guest. Or our gay guests.
02:04:14
I view you as Antoine, who comes on the show and offers a
02:04:18
different perspective than these two honky tonks.
02:04:22
More of a young. Young and you mean seriously?
02:04:25
Yeah. You are the.
02:04:26
Opposite. Of of them could not be.
02:04:28
Further from yeah, of what's sitting here.
02:04:30
But yet we can relate, and yet we adore you, and we we have
02:04:34
such a good time with you. And so that's why you're on here
02:04:37
and I think what I'd like to do at some point is really be able
02:04:40
to dive into the race thing and dive into some of these things
02:04:46
that really just some reason they they really irk me and and
02:04:52
I want to know from somebody who has a.
02:04:56
Some validity. I don't want somebody that I
02:04:59
don't want Trey telling me something that doesn't mean
02:05:01
sure, because he's another he's. Trey and I are like the same,
02:05:04
like the same person here. Yeah, and something just fell
02:05:07
off my desk. It happened.
02:05:08
Sounds like it was. Thrown off your desk and you
02:05:10
know, probably my phone, who gives a shit?
02:05:13
But so we love having you on. I know that you've let us out
02:05:19
before with certain sayings, but can you can you think of
02:05:24
anything any? A little bit of wisdom or any.
02:05:28
Just goodbye or just something. You know what?
02:05:32
As we. Usually end with a little
02:05:36
saying, a happy what? I usually invite my God, but
02:05:41
today I want to tell a brief story.
02:05:44
Nice. This is a perfect way to end.
02:05:46
Here we go. There was a picture on the wall.
02:05:52
Tres hard me go ahead. There was a picture on the wall
02:05:59
of me on a John Deere. Jenny handed me a beer and said,
02:06:03
hey, how the hell did you get up there?
02:06:06
And I said Oklahoma the silent. You let that silence go further.
02:06:17
Did you understand what the I did not?
02:06:20
Oh shit. That's a lyric from a song about
02:06:22
like. Oh, it's a lyric.
02:06:23
Is that Miranda Lambert? No, it's Lana Del Rey.
02:06:26
Who? Lana Del Rey.
02:06:28
Oh, Oh yeah, I got issues with her.
02:06:31
But what happened to the next show?
02:06:33
Excuse me? What?
02:06:35
You said some stuff, right? She's kind of out.
02:06:37
What did she say? I thought she said some woke
02:06:41
type stuff that. About Kanye West, anyway.
02:06:48
This was supposed to be the ending.
02:06:50
Yep, That wasn't. So.
02:06:51
Those are those are song lyrics. Yeah, you memorized those.
02:06:54
So you really like Lana Lana Del Rey?
02:06:57
Lana Del Rey. She's hot, right?
02:06:59
She's pretty. Oh, she's a beautiful woman.
02:07:01
You don't know who she is. Guys, you're not being very
02:07:05
thoughts, intrusive thoughts, trance inclusive as protrusive
02:07:07
right now, so. And there it is.
02:07:10
Go ahead and do it real fast. We're gonna go.
02:07:12
Thoughts. Intrusive trance include wait,
02:07:14
no fuck sorry. That's intrusive as protrusive,
02:07:19
trans inclusive. Trey loves the as protrusive.
02:07:24
And we'll see you guys next time.
02:07:25
We love you later. Thanks, Antoine.
02:07:27
Hugs and kisses. Love you buddy.
02:07:54
If I come back in my next life, I hope I'm an orca.
02:07:57
Oh my God with a big. Shot.
02:08:02
Never mind.