This episode has everything: sea otters on meth (basically), lakes that want to eat you, and a legal loophole in Italy that says a "quick grope" might not count. Oh, and a football coach gets canned for letting his team treat the locker room like a frat house from hell.
We also tackle whether private businesses should be allowed to discriminate, and a kid with GTA-level ambition stealing a car at gunpoint. All of it? Somehow real.
🔫 8-year-old boy hijacks a car
🦈 Sharks...in lakes
🦦 Sea otter throws hands
🇮🇹 Italy says “brief groping” is maybe fine?
🏈 Hazing scandal ends a coaching career
🏳️🌈 Private business vs. public morality
🧠 Twilight Zone-level facts
🍿 Teen movie dates & cringe flashbacks
Chapters:
00:00 – Intro
07:40 – Iowa Fans & Instagram Stats
11:50 – Sea Otters & Shark Lakes
21:18 – Six-Year-Old vs. Predator
24:20 – Armed 8-Year-Old Carjacker
27:44 – The Italian “Palpata Breve” Disaster
41:03 – Can Businesses Discriminate?
1:01:30 – Northwestern Coach Fired for Hazing
1:17:40 – Twilight Zone Facts
1:25:26 – Dating Disasters at the Movies
🎙️ Bold, weird, honest. Welcome to Stay in the Gray Podcast.
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This is where it's at. Hello.
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Hey, Trey, what's going on? Glad to have you back.
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Good to be back, Sir. Do you?
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How many swimsuits do? You own a few, actually,
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surprisingly. A few.
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Would that be 12? I would say. 55 Okay, including
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one Speedo. We need to update and get some
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more because according to a vote on a poll that I did, we need to
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be doing a stay in the great podcast calendar.
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How do you feel about that? I'm in but.
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We can't have. We can't have duplicate
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swimsuits. Are we in a swimsuit for every
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month? I don't know.
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That's true. What?
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Maybe December. We get a little little winter
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winter skiing action. There we go.
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Maybe a summer. A winter swimsuit put some
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pasties on because it gets cold. Some pasties, no.
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Sure. No, I mean seasonal.
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Pasties. But we could do like, you know.
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That's a good hashtag. Valentine's Day one for February
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and we. Pasties.
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We'll have pasties for every every month now.
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I'm open. Who gets to be Cupid?
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I'm open to suggest. That's going to be a fight right
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there. Do we both do?
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Is there 2? Cupids, I'll give that up to.
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You sure? OK.
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Look, the logistics haven't been discussed about the calendar.
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I'm just letting you know, you sound excited.
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I'm just letting you know the calendar is on the horizon.
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Don't tease me with this. No, no it was a vote.
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It might have won by like 1 vote but.
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Do you think you think your wife would be upset if we do this out
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in the front yard? Yes, Okay.
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Unless I'm wearing her Peter Millar swimsuit that she bought.
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What? Peter.
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You've never heard of Peter? Peter Millar?
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He's some fashion. Was he one of the Spidermans at
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one time? Yes.
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That's sweet. That's him, Okay.
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Also, I received an anonymous e-mail from a woman.
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We always get emails from women. Is that a good thing?
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Specify of us from a woman. Well, because I think it
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matters. I think if some dude wrote this
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about you, you wouldn't care. But now it's a woman.
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So you're going. All right, maybe I'll listen.
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She thinks that you should never wear a sleeveless shirt.
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What? How do you feel about that?
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Well, did we talk about that? I don't even remember.
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Yeah. Mentioning sleeveless shirt.
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I don't either. I don't understand the reason
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behind it though. Anytime the sun's out, my guns
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are going to be out. Ryan.
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And we're in Texas, so they're we.
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Are in Texas damaged shit? I mean, I really the only time I
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normally wear them is when I go to the gym Anyway, now that I've
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discovered the gym mirror, I've got a flex every two minutes.
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So. Sure.
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Well, you can't just push the sleeves up.
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That takes too much time. Yeah, too much effort.
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OK, well, look, take the advisor.
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Leave it. I'm just saying, you know, she
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just. I know.
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No. It was very much a just tell
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Trey not. To wear sleevey shirt.
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That was literally the e-mail. Tell Trey not to wear sleeveless
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shirts. That was.
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Dash Anonymous. Dash Anonymous.
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And her and her e-mail address was not.
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There's no name. It wasn't like, you know, Angela
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456. It was just nothing.
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It was like. Anonymous.
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It was cute. Got it.
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So maybe this is a bot? Oh, what can I bought?
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e-mail, people. Or something that's specific I.
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Hope not. Hey, we're going to be talking
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about AI at some point, so get ready.
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Tell Trey to start. Stop coloring his Gray beard.
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What? Whoa.
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Very specific also. Do you know where corn has
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grown? Corn like the band?
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No. Where they grew up?
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No. No.
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Where did they grow? Up in Bakersfield, CA.
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California, Okay, I can see that come from California, no.
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So yeah, Bakersfield, I would think Nebraska in that, the
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Cornfield State. And they're the Cornhuskers.
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Right, the Cornhuskers, So that makes sense.
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Interesting, no? Right?
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Next nearby is the state of Iowa.
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Iowa. We have a, what I would call a
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shit load of Iowa listeners. That's a.
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American. That's right.
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Term of measurement, there's. Really.
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No shit load? Is that the metrics?
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Metrics system, yeah. So for some reason, they are the
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second state on our list when it comes to the most listens in the
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United States. Wow, But behind our home state
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of Texas. I don't know anybody from Iowa,
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right? I know nobody from Iowa.
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That's weird. Apparently I'm loving these
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people from Iowa. So.
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Like our Iowa? Introduce yourselves to us.
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On social media, e-mail us stuff at Stay in the great
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podcast.com. Tell me.
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Tell me where you're from exactly, so that I know that
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you're not, like, full of shit. Do they have any professional
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teams we can give a shout out to?
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No, they're they're really caught.
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Probably college up there. They're either Hawkeyes, right,
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or Cyclones. Iowa State is the I.
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Was like where the Cyclones? But yeah, I forgot about Iowa
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State. And Iowa's in Iowa City.
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And I forget where Iowa State is, but Iowa State City, I think
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the. Right now, yes, that's too
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simple. I think it's funny.
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I'm proud of myself for knowing this much about Iowa.
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So, listeners, I want to know more.
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Let us know and we'll toss in maybe some a free tshirt or some
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some good gear for you. I like it.
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We appreciate it. I just need to know who you guys
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are. So let us know.
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And on that same kind of note, you know, we've been interacting
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with so many people. We've been putting up some like,
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some questions on Facebook and some things just to get people
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kind of. Talking with us cuz I want to
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learn about the people that are out there, some of them.
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Some of the people. Some of them are interesting and
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and quite frankly, some of them are scary, but you don't know
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which ones I'm talking about, right?
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So it's very easy every day. Sometimes it takes 12 years of
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Mary's to figure it out too. That's true.
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I haven't run into her yet. Gotcha on the on the social
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media, but there are there's a couple and they're like,
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adorable. And they're on two different
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accountants too. So it's not like they're on one
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account. They're talking to each other on
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our page, like back and forth. And that's very cool.
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And I won't say they're full names, but I'll say their first
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names, Christina and Jim. Christina and Jim, yeah.
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Very American names, right? Christina and Jim?
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Where are they from? They are actually.
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It's really funny. They're actually Canadian.
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It's a very American Canadian. They are.
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They are from I believe Ontario don't I think that's right.
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And so they they're great. They interacted.
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They they really were of a joy. So I wanted to give them a shout
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out and hopefully they're listening and and and I hope
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they enjoy. I just think they're the type of
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people that that we want and that would enjoy the show.
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Well, thank you Christina and. Jim, Christina and Jim, they're
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they're they're really funny. It was a post that we did, in
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case you want to know about celebrity crushes.
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And I said, who's your celebrity crush?
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And this was a general question. And Christina came back and she
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said Sam Elliott. And I was like, well, that's
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quite interesting. Yeah, quite the mustache okay.
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And he's got a great voice. I wish I had that for the
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podcast. And then she said also Tom
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Selig, So she's got another going.
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Mustache, mustache, come on. And how well?
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Is she is? I can't really tell how old she.
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Is okay I was. Curious for for, for the show.
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I'll say. She looked about 30.
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Gotcha. But probably a little older than
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30, especially if you like Sam Elliott.
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I imagine you're probably Tom unless you have a daddy thing
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going on. Yeah.
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And Tom Selleck, right, But so her.
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She said My boyfriend is Okay with Sam Elliott, but not Okay
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with Tom Selleck. Interesting because he's a dork.
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Tom Sellick. Tom Sellick is a dork according
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to this guy. Okay.
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And sure enough there here he comes like he likes my comment
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and he gets angry. First her and he's like, yeah,
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whatever. And it was great.
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It was so entertaining. I said you guys are fun and and
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so. Now that I think about it, and I
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don't know if it was just the look in those days, but Tom
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Sellick on Friends. He wore his pants up really high
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in that shoe. She.
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Always wore them high. Is that a?
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I don't remember that being a thing.
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I don't remember, but he can pull it off, cuz he's like, I
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don't know, he's just like a handsome dude, right?
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He's a mustache and all that. And no, he's a hairy guy though.
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Well, he is hairy. Well, I don't remember this cuz
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I was too little, but magnum π you.
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Don't remember magnum π well. I remember the show, but I never
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really watched it. But what I do remember is that
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his shorts were very high. Super short, yeah, and super
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short. Yeah, I would see one of those
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testicles going. Anyway, great couple.
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I'm excited to have them aboard. Especially shout out to Canada.
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So we'll get. Hello to Canada.
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Our neighbors to the north. And I still want to get up there
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and try those. Was it Tim Horton Donuts?
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Yeah, I don't know. Is Tim Horton Canadian?
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We still haven't looked. At I don't know.
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We're going to look it up. And you know what, Jim?
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Christina, if you know the answer.
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Help us out. I have no doubt you'll jump on
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our social media and let us know in case Tim Horton is that.
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If they send us a case of like Maple syrup too, that'd be
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awesome. They may end up being like our
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Yeah, I'd. Love you for.
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Life. And if they respond to this,
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which means they're listening Trey T-shirts their way as well.
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Boom. So that's kind of my catch up
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segment there if you will, I have.
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I, I I'm going to tell you that there is no orca story tonight.
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What? Yeah, I think they're chilling
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out a little bit. We'll see.
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Remember that was the release of Tikana Tikonte.
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I forget her name. I mean, you were on the orca
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kick Lolita, Yeah. Well, no, no, with the orca
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tshirts and the orca hats and now you've got a if you'll
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notice stuffed animal in here if.
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You'll notice there is only the stuffed animal.
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The hats are gone, everything's gone.
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So. There.
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The ocean is still fucked. OK?
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Did you know that now? And I and I've had like 3
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people, which means they're listening.
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By the way, Trey, three people tell me about this story and
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they're like you, you guys should do this.
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I'm like, OK, take it easy. I already have it ready to roll.
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Did you know that there is what they call, quote, an aggressive
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sea Otter? Caught on camera stealing
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surfboards? What of surfers in the ocean?
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Now before you go in for how big is a sea Otter?
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I haven't Googled that. They're not selling like big,
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the dogs of the ocean or what kind of, and they're dragging
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these surfboards. Off I always thought sea otters
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were supposed to be like these cute little animals.
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They swam on their backs and they were all whatever.
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And it said there's a serial surfboard thief.
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And the unlikely culprit is a sea Otter.
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Wow. Yeah.
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And at least four separate incidents.
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And now I think it's even more. And they've named this sea
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Otter, by the way. They've actually put up a sign.
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Remember we suggested that you put up a sign with the sharks?
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Well, now they're doing it for the sea Otter.
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Really. Yeah.
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It says enter the water at your own risk because there's an
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aggressive sea Otter in the area.
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I can imagine these people are like, whatever.
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Goes on. This may seem cute and funny,
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but it's getting to be dangerous.
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So what they're saying is that this sea Otter named 841. 841.
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So, you know, I'd be pissed about that.
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That's probably why this sea Otter's.
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I mean, come. On Give me a fucking name.
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Yeah, yeah, I would. Was she a test?
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On me, even that orca got a name.
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Yeah, give me a name. White Gladys be like white.
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Whatever. So 841 was, apparently.
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She's five years old. Another she, by the way of.
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Course. And she was raised in captivity.
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Okay. And so my thought on this after
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reading through it was okay. Well, this seems obvious.
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This is psychology. This is sea Otter psychology.
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One O 1. Got it.
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If you grow up in captivity and you're fed constantly by humans,
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if you're all of a sudden released into the ocean, we
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talked about this a little bit with that.
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Lolita to Kunta or whatever that's going to be released
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after 54 years or whatever it was.
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It's a different life. And so people research,
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scientists are now going well. I think that 841 is upset and
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she's having to like earn her food or like or like find it or
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fight for her food, whereas before she was just given food.
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So whenever humans around she's going on to these surfboards to
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try and. Find food because humans have
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always given it to her. Is she attacking the person or
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just jumping on? The it's like the IT says the
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board and that there's these surfboards.
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When the the owner of the surfboards are in the water, the
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Otter will jump up on the board and that's to where like the
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person can't get back on it without.
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Kicking the Otter. On with the Otter and that there
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are scrapes and scratches from the claws and interesting and
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all this stuff so. It's funny because they're just
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like experts don't really have an explanation.
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However, that's the thought. And so I just thought that was
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really funny. So more ocean, Was it not enough
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to have the sea lions? I said it right.
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The sea lions. The sea lions.
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The orcas. The sharks.
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Obviously the sharks. I mean, now we're talking about
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jellyfish in Galveston. And now the cute, adorable sea
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otters. Sea otters are.
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Not happy for what it is? Yeah.
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Or 8 at least 841841. Whatever. 841.
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He didn't have a group or anything with him.
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Or is it just him? Not yet.
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We'll see. Maybe white glass is gonna start
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start getting get off. Social media said this is how
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you recruit more sea otters. Yeah, there's an underwater
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social media page for underwater chaos.
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Don't make it start throwing plastic straws back in there
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again. Did you know?
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I say bad about the ocean? What if I told you that our
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lakes are something to be concerned about as well?
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Really. Would you be intrigued?
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Very intrigued. I don't even believe you.
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Very intrigued. So apparently there are lakes
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that are shark infested. My God.
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And you might have already swam in.
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One okay dumb question. Dumb question.
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Lakes usually. No, no, go ahead.
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How many are usually fed by the ocean?
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Is it? Is that not?
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A There are some, and I think that's.
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I think that's the case in most of these.
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I'll go ahead and mention so it's not the great whites, it's
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not Mako sharks, it's not hammerheads, it's not some of
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these but bull sharks, which are mean fuckers.
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These guys aren't, they don't mess around.
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I've learned that being around boats in the ocean.
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I've learned that like nurse sharks, fun.
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You can like almost get in with them, in fact.
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I think there's a picture on our social media where I'm in there
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with all the nerve sharks. Yeah, they don't attack you.
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At least they didn't attack me. But these bull sharks, they
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don't mess around. And so they're the ones that
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apparently it says they're capable of surviving in both
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fresh and salt water shit. And this is because they have an
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advanced ability to us more regulate what?
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Osmore, I believe has something to do with water osmosis, right?
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Right. I'll just.
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Believe you, yeah. Osmore regulate their livers and
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are capable of adapting to the salinity.
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Salt for the layman, thank you, Of the environment.
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Unlike the Physiology of some more famous shark species like
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hammerheads, tiger sharks, great whites and so, Lake Nicaragua is
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one of the largest freshwater. Lakes.
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Is that in Minnesota? Yes, exactly.
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Like Nicaragua, Minnesota and and in the the bull sharks, they
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go up the San Juan River. Also probably Minnesota.
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Minnesota. Yeah, this is in the country of
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Nicaragua, Nicaragua and through a series of eight Rapids,
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similar to the way salmon go upstream.
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Interesting Okay. And how big are they?
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They stay there. No, these are big.
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These aren't pretty big. I mean, they're not great
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whites, but they're big enough to probably eat you.
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Yeah. So there's some in Australia.
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Not a surprise. There's all kinds of shark chaos
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in Australia. I don't mean to generalize for
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our Australian listeners, Yeah, but the closest one to us, Trey,
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is Lake Lake. Pontchart train and I know say
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that again, and it's in Louisiana.
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It's a what's it called, Pechanchan.
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Pontchart train. Pontchart train.
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And I'm and we I have some of Louisiana acquaintances, so I'm
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going to ask them how the hell they pronounce this.
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But but the bottom line is in Louisiana.
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Guess what? That's our next door neighbor.
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You're right. And there's a boy that was
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attacked by a bull shark in the lake in 2014.
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And so the Gulf is, I think you have an entrance from the Gulf
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up into the thing and blah, blah, blah.
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And then there's new, The other ones are New Guinea, Guatemala,
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Indonesia, Panama, I mean, but the bottom line is that a lot of
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these, oh, here's a fun one and we'll move on.
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Lake Maracaibo in Venezuela are home to a bull shark nursery, if
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you will. Coincidentally, the lake is also
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the location where the most lightning strikes occur in the
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world. So maybe strike that one off
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your list of vacation destinations.
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You think so? I thought that was.
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Imagine getting struck by the lightning.
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Eaten by the. It's like fall in the lake and
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then the shark grabs you up. Yeah, you know what?
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Bullshit. You know, on our world tour.
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I'm gonna go ahead and stay away from Lake Maracaibo.
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We can fly over and. Go over and say there's somebody
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getting struck by lightning and eaten by.
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Eaten by a shark at the same time.
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What the? So I just look, the chaos is not
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only in the ocean, it's in all water.
00:19:34
So unless it's like a water park with a water slide and even then
00:19:39
it's germs. These fish are getting.
00:19:41
Paid out. Yeah.
00:19:42
Look, these underwater animals are.
00:19:46
They've had it with us. Yeah, I thought that was
00:19:48
interesting, cuz we talked so much about the ocean that.
00:19:51
I came across an article and it literally felt like it was meant
00:19:54
for us. It said no, no, no, no, don't
00:19:58
forget the lakes. Yeah, so.
00:20:01
It's interesting. My God.
00:20:02
Yeah. Did you hear about a six year
00:20:07
old girl and her name is a lyric?
00:20:12
A lyric That's. A kind of a cool.
00:20:14
Name. Yeah, it's really cool.
00:20:15
It's a H apostrophe. Of course.
00:20:19
Lyric like. Like lyrics of a song, gotcha, a
00:20:22
lyric and she's 6 and. Does she sing?
00:20:27
She should. If she doesn't, it's She needs
00:20:30
to. That'd be horrible if she was
00:20:31
muted. Or or she's just terrible.
00:20:33
She's out of the worst. Can't read music.
00:20:36
This is in Miami of. Course.
00:20:38
And you and your Florida hate. We have lots of Florida
00:20:42
listeners. Not more than Iowa.
00:20:44
That's true. Like Florida.
00:20:45
Get your shit together, right, Okay.
00:20:48
There's a a gentleman and guess what, I'm going to go ahead and
00:20:52
call him out because any of these assholes that that try
00:20:56
this kind of stuff, they need to be called out, right?
00:20:58
So people know and. I don't know what he's tried,
00:21:00
but yeah. I can't find his first name now,
00:21:04
but his last name is Venegas and this young girl was playing with
00:21:08
her siblings outside of her apartment building.
00:21:11
I'm assuming it was actually her parents apartment.
00:21:13
Seems seems right she's. 6 And her siblings were like older.
00:21:17
I think they were two older brothers.
00:21:19
And this like, guy came up and and it was a big actually it was
00:21:24
a white Range Rover. So nice car.
00:21:27
And her two older brothers like ran away and she's like, I'm
00:21:32
going to stay, OK? Like I already like a lyric.
00:21:36
I think she's not messing around.
00:21:38
And then if sure enough Venegas like grabs her arm, picks her up
00:21:42
and tries to take her and as he's carrying her off, she
00:21:47
literally like. Bites his arm and breaks the
00:21:50
skin and takes a chunk of his arm.
00:21:51
Hell yes. And he frees her.
00:21:56
No shit, right? Gallantly, Al.
00:21:58
Yeah. And he slapped her across the
00:22:01
face. She's all on onsecure on camera,
00:22:04
by the way. That's why I know this.
00:22:05
I wasn't there and and runs off and that's it.
00:22:10
And this little girl, to her credit, they asked, they just
00:22:13
asked her if she's interviewed. I watched the interview and
00:22:15
she's like, yeah, yeah, I bet him.
00:22:18
And her mom's like, yeah, I taught her how to fight nice.
00:22:21
Well, hell yeah, somebody grabbed me.
00:22:23
I'd be like this little 6 year old is just not taking any shit.
00:22:27
From me. Well, now she should go whoop
00:22:28
the shit out of her brothers. It took all right.
00:22:30
What the hell? What was that all about?
00:22:33
And that's been kind of left out of the story.
00:22:36
I don't know why, but. And so they've got video and
00:22:39
they're trying to figure out why.
00:22:41
And of course the apartment complex is like we've never had
00:22:42
any issues here before. Well, of course not.
00:22:44
Yeah. But this guy's an asshole and
00:22:46
they've got his picture up and. Does he look like a winner?
00:22:49
Yeah, he looks like a real winner.
00:22:51
So I don't know. I mean, anyway.
00:22:54
Did they catch him? Yeah, they've got him okay good.
00:22:56
So I don't mean to make a light of it and laugh, but this little
00:22:59
6 year old, she messed some shit up and.
00:23:01
That's good and. I need to teach my kids to do
00:23:05
the same. So anyway.
00:23:08
There's another kid in the news for a different reason.
00:23:12
Okay, there's an 8 year old arrested in Alabama.
00:23:16
Oh. Shit.
00:23:18
For stealing a car at gunpoint. Holy shit.
00:23:21
Eight. He's eight.
00:23:23
Wow. So he gets in the car and the
00:23:26
police start chasing him on the it's like this police chase.
00:23:31
Can't even see over the damn state.
00:23:32
Will, I don't know. They just literally said that
00:23:36
they had to chase him and they were worried he was going to run
00:23:40
into other cars. Well, no shit.
00:23:42
And and this one witness said, I thought, you know, he wasn't old
00:23:48
enough to drive well. No shit.
00:23:49
Good. Job he goes.
00:23:51
So I followed him okay. Well thank you.
00:23:54
See this guy decided to follow. He's like going to make a
00:23:56
citizen's arrest on the on the 8 year old.
00:23:59
Pull him down. Like, pit him down.
00:24:01
Well, they said he's arrested Okay.
00:24:04
He's being held at a youth detention facility, but he's on
00:24:07
charges of first degree robbery, attempting to elude and certain
00:24:13
persons forbidden to and then possess a fire possessing a
00:24:16
firearm. Where are the parents in all
00:24:18
this? Why are they not being held
00:24:19
accountable for this? I'm pretty sure that.
00:24:22
They didn't know where their son was at the time.
00:24:24
Cuz I can't imagine an 8 year old, you know, buying a gun off
00:24:27
some some random guy out of the back of a car and then going to
00:24:31
fucking rob a or, you know, steal a car.
00:24:34
Yeah, yeah. I don't know where you got the
00:24:36
gun, so I'll have to look and see if anything else comes out.
00:24:39
There's a witness that said I think the parents just really
00:24:44
need to know where their kids are, you think, and what their
00:24:47
kids are doing and just talk to them about these kinds of
00:24:50
things. OK, what kinds of things First
00:24:53
off? Well, I'm curious, what gave him
00:24:55
the idea to go one, grab a gun and rob it.
00:24:57
And I don't know, I keep trying to say rob a car, but no, steal
00:25:01
a car. You know, is that essentially
00:25:03
Grand Theft Auto? That's what I'm saying.
00:25:05
Like, was he playing Grand Theft Auto?
00:25:08
He might have been now and he just opened the door and like
00:25:11
threw her out and. Think about being an adult in
00:25:14
that situation. Would you start laughing first,
00:25:15
thinking maybe it's a fake gun or?
00:25:19
You know, it's like, you're so cute, you know?
00:25:21
That's not wrong, I just kicking.
00:25:23
In the fucking forehead, you know.
00:25:25
I kind of wanted to laugh at what you just said, but that's
00:25:26
not wrong. Like if somebody think about it,
00:25:28
okay if this little cute 8 year old kid opened the door and he's
00:25:32
like get out, I'd be like and I'd like pat him on the head or
00:25:35
something. He's probably holding a gun with
00:25:37
two hands, too. I'm glad he didn't shoot
00:25:40
anybody. That's a good thing, yeah,
00:25:41
because I my dumb ass, would have probably started laughing
00:25:44
at him. Yeah, and we.
00:25:45
He might have fired that damn gun.
00:25:47
And our tombstones read, killed by 8 year old.
00:25:50
Or if we just open the door and slam him with it, that's true.
00:25:53
That might have worked. That might have worked, but
00:25:55
those are my two kids stories. I I look, I just don't.
00:26:00
It's all ages right now where things are jacked up all over
00:26:03
the country. Everything's, you know, I went
00:26:05
from Florida to Bama, which I guess makes sense.
00:26:09
Yeah, that in that area. So.
00:26:11
So you went from heroic to little asshole.
00:26:13
Heroic to little asshole that that was.
00:26:16
What I wanted to to kind of say is that just when we think that
00:26:20
the youth has figured things out, we have not.
00:26:23
Yeah. We go right back to dumbass
00:26:25
stories. Yeah.
00:26:26
And. Prove us wrong, yeah?
00:26:29
How about this? Let's go, let's go across the
00:26:31
pond. And when I say pond, most people
00:26:34
know I mean the Atlantic Ocean did.
00:26:36
You just say we back in Minnesota again.
00:26:39
Yes, we have a lot of. Pond in the San Juan.
00:26:42
River of San Juan and Nicaragua. So do you know the phrase say
00:26:48
menorah D10, second, second D? Well, of course I do.
00:26:51
I've got a tshirt with it on it, you know.
00:26:53
La papata breve breva. I think I ordered one last time
00:26:57
I went to a restaurant like a. None Casindo, Reta, soreato What
00:27:01
are? You calling me?
00:27:04
Are you Are you having a stroke right now?
00:27:05
I'm. Trying to speak Italian.
00:27:07
Oh, are we doing an exorcism? Yes.
00:27:09
Well, I'm trying to speak Italian, so.
00:27:11
I have a feeling you're doing a shitty job.
00:27:14
I feel really bad if we have any Italian listeners that are like
00:27:17
this. What is that?
00:27:19
What was that? It reminds me when Joey was
00:27:21
trying to speak French on France.
00:27:22
Yeah, it was really funny. But he actually thought he was.
00:27:25
Yeah, I know. I suck.
00:27:26
Yeah. Didn't he say like, poo poo, poo
00:27:29
poo? Yeah, something like that.
00:27:31
So. This is kind of serious so I'm
00:27:35
going to turn on serious face, but it's it's, I don't know how
00:27:39
to take it. It's really strange.
00:27:40
It's in Italy, so I think I can get over it, cuz it's not us is.
00:27:44
That the country that looks like a boot.
00:27:45
Yes, good trivia. I like that, Trey.
00:27:49
But they're lawmakers and their courts really need a lesson here
00:27:56
cuz get this. I love my setup.
00:27:59
Get this, Trey. I'm on the edge of my seat,
00:28:02
right? Now 17 year old girl Okay.
00:28:05
I'm gonna call her girl. She's not 18.
00:28:06
She's not a woman, right? Or would you call her a young
00:28:08
woman at 17? What would you do?
00:28:10
Young woman, young woman at 17. She's a student at a Rome high
00:28:14
school. Rome, Rome, Italy.
00:28:17
So she was walking up the staircase one day at the school
00:28:20
with a friend and she felt her trousers fall down.
00:28:23
Whoa, trousers are pants. Okay.
00:28:28
I think. Now that makes more sense.
00:28:29
And there was a hand all of a sudden on her buttocks.
00:28:32
Oh, did he say good? Game grabbing her underwear and
00:28:36
then all of a sudden she turned around and it was a 66 year old.
00:28:45
Why are we laughing? You should not be laughing.
00:28:47
I just seen this old man. This year old Hold on, it's it's
00:28:56
a. Put his teeth back.
00:28:58
In a caretaker named Antonio Avola.
00:29:02
Nice. And he admitted to groping the
00:29:04
student and he said he told her immediately.
00:29:07
Love, you know, I was just joking.
00:29:08
I was just playing, just. Playing, which, honestly, the
00:29:11
stereotype of Italy is this kind of stuff.
00:29:14
I mean, I even told you like, when we were there, I mean,
00:29:17
people would look at my wife just up and down and just smile
00:29:19
at both of us. Like, yeah, I'm checking her
00:29:21
out. And and obviously there's
00:29:24
there's no excuse for grabbing a girl's ass.
00:29:26
Yeah, 7. Pulling her pants down.
00:29:28
Pulling. No.
00:29:28
Pulling her pants up, apparently.
00:29:30
Oh, I'm sorry. Pull them up.
00:29:31
She he grabbed, apparently he grabbed her ass and then grabbed
00:29:34
her pennies and like, yeah, almost like a wedgie it.
00:29:38
Didn't sound very sexy at all, that's why.
00:29:39
Yeah, I know that's. I don't know why that's.
00:29:41
Hot at this. I don't make it, but yeah.
00:29:44
But he is also groping a 17 year old.
00:29:47
So anything goes with this guy. I guess the scumbag.
00:29:50
Idiot. So he admitted this and.
00:29:53
But there was no good, Game said.
00:29:55
No, no okay. So that's sexual harassment.
00:29:57
That might have taken a little time off his sentence.
00:29:59
Yeah. So there's a Rome prosecutor
00:30:03
asked for 3 1/2 year prison sentence for this okay.
00:30:06
Which okay? You grab an ass.
00:30:08
It's still sexual harassment and it's still not whatever, 3 1/2
00:30:11
years. Do you think that's fair or do
00:30:13
you think it needs to be more? And that's a tough one, right?
00:30:16
Because it's just. I don't mean to say it's just
00:30:18
grabbing somebody's ass, but it wasn't like it wasn't a rape or
00:30:22
it wasn't. And he's 66.
00:30:26
Isn't that like the old man we were talking about, where it's
00:30:28
like, oh, it's just, it's just Antonio.
00:30:31
Yeah, he does things. Like that he just grabs asses on
00:30:34
the stairs. But I don't know.
00:30:37
But I can't decide whether I think that's close.
00:30:40
I could go 5 and be okay with it.
00:30:42
I could also probably go 2 and be okay with it for different
00:30:45
reasons. But all of a sudden, Trey, go
00:30:49
ahead. I was just about to say now if
00:30:52
let's say if it was a 40 year old man, would this the optics
00:30:56
of this look worse? That's a great question.
00:31:00
Because it's a shitty situation, but a 66 year old man, you're
00:31:03
like, kind of. Or what is a fellow student get?
00:31:06
Does he get detention? Right or expelled?
00:31:09
Or expelled, yeah. Or what if somebody's in her
00:31:13
grade in the high school and he's 18, so he's technically, I
00:31:15
don't know what their law. I don't think their laws are
00:31:17
exactly the same here. But anyway, either way, get
00:31:21
this, get this. He was acquitted of all sexual
00:31:26
charges. Can you believe that?
00:31:29
I'll tell you why. But which is even crazier.
00:31:33
But First off, Can you believe? That he was acquitted.
00:31:35
He admitted it right. And he admitted he did it.
00:31:37
He's like, yeah, I did it. Yeah, I did it.
00:31:39
Here's. Your panties right here.
00:31:40
Yeah, and well, thank you for your honesty.
00:31:42
Charges dropped. Good job, The judges said.
00:31:47
What happened does not constitute a crime because it
00:31:49
lasted less than 10 seconds. Wow.
00:31:54
What I mean, I just, I sat there and I read it like 20 times
00:31:58
going this can't be your real thing.
00:32:01
So basically, if you grab a woman's ashtray and you hold on
00:32:05
to it, stop after 9 seconds and you're good.
00:32:08
So if it's under 10 seconds, it doesn't.
00:32:10
Count. No, it doesn't count.
00:32:11
You're like I was just joking. It was under 10 seconds, but if
00:32:15
it's like 11 seconds, you're done.
00:32:17
If that's the case, I haven't had sex at all.
00:32:21
Ever. Ever.
00:32:23
Wow. So.
00:32:24
This really got me. And so here the deal is Italy's
00:32:29
pissed. Obviously, yeah, and.
00:32:33
Is that actually on the law books if it's under 10 seconds?
00:32:36
This is what they're claiming. Wow.
00:32:38
So the ruling is called palpatta breve or something like sounds
00:32:42
about it. It's called a brief groping is
00:32:45
how it's trending. Brief groping, it's now
00:32:47
trending, so good for us. The brief groping or the people
00:32:53
upset about it, Everybody's groping in my 10 seconds here.
00:32:56
I'm counting. Everywhere.
00:32:59
Is that a one, Mississippi or? Do not go to Italy people
00:33:03
because you will be groped for 99.8 seconds.
00:33:06
Now if I walk around Italy crotch out, is that inviting the
00:33:10
grope? So he's like, come on at least
00:33:15
nine, give me, At least nine, give me. 4 1/2 seconds, Yeah.
00:33:18
I just want to hear all the counting around.
00:33:20
So like you you get in a a train station or subway or something
00:33:22
all of a sudden here. 1233 or or even worse?
00:33:28
Lots of lots of people doing that.
00:33:30
The whole train is. Like people grabbing, It's like,
00:33:32
oh shit, everyone's big. You go through a tunnel and it's
00:33:35
like, oh shit. People look out the window.
00:33:38
They're like, oh Oh no, there's a dark tunnel coming in.
00:33:41
That was on a movie too. What movie was that?
00:33:44
I think that was also your. Euro trip, yeah.
00:33:46
Wasn't that on like, he's Italian also And he was like
00:33:49
scuzzy, scuzzy like? He's like grabbing the dude's
00:33:53
leg and his inner thigh and he's like scootzie, No, it's okay.
00:33:55
Everything's fine. Yeah, so Italian.
00:33:58
Italy has that Rep, but so here's the deal.
00:34:01
There was a post on Twitter and it might have been on TikTok as
00:34:06
well by an actress who was in the show White Lotus.
00:34:10
Did you ever watch that? I did not.
00:34:12
You need to watch that tray. White Lotus is very, very good.
00:34:15
I'm just going to go and plug it right there.
00:34:17
They don't really need our help, but I'll do it anyway.
00:34:20
And this actor Apollo Camili, which is a girl, I think.
00:34:25
I thought Apollo was like a male name, but these days whatever.
00:34:29
Paolo. Paolo Camili, She posted a video
00:34:34
where she's grabbing her breast and there's a timer.
00:34:41
I'm not. I don't know why I'm.
00:34:42
I'm not laughing, but I'm just saying this is just, I can't
00:34:45
imagine. I can't believe that this ruling
00:34:47
happened. So she's grabbing her breasts
00:34:51
and she says and she's calling it whatever, I just said Balbata
00:34:56
Breve or whatever however you pronounce it.
00:34:58
And she's basically doing this so that people can see just how
00:35:01
long 10 seconds is. So she's holding there and she
00:35:05
just sits there and the timer's going.
00:35:07
That's not that quick. If you're grabbing somebody, I
00:35:11
mean that's look. Let me reiterate here at stay in
00:35:15
the Gray one second of of of grabbing somebody is wrong much
00:35:20
but but I'm saying the 10 second thing is very very strange to
00:35:23
me. That is strange.
00:35:24
I'm I'm I'm curious why where that law came from.
00:35:27
I I don't know. And apparently Camilla is as
00:35:29
well this this woman. And then another video was
00:35:33
Chiara Ferragami and that's Italy's most famous influencer,
00:35:38
has 29.4 million followers on Instagram.
00:35:41
And so all of these influencers started doing this, that
00:35:46
everybody's grabbing themselves. In support of the 10 second.
00:35:50
And they're doing this 10 second timer and letting everybody know
00:35:53
this is horseshit and I don't disagree at this point.
00:35:57
And so you know, they're saying men don't have the right to
00:36:01
touch women's bodies, not even for one second, let alone 5:00
00:36:03
to 10:00. And it's like are we really
00:36:05
talking seconds here? It just shouldn't be at all,
00:36:08
right? What is the limit though?
00:36:10
Is it when they said it's under 10 seconds?
00:36:12
So it's 10 seconds? 10?
00:36:13
Seconds is apparently. That's the limit.
00:36:15
Yeah, Okay. And then and then after that
00:36:17
there's intent. 11 seconds was intent. 11 right Now my question
00:36:22
is, what if there's a female that grabs a guy?
00:36:25
Is that the same thing? I didn't find out.
00:36:27
I don't. It's.
00:36:28
Probably a slower 10 seconds that the guy's.
00:36:30
It's probably like 5 minutes. The guy doesn't care.
00:36:33
He's not gonna press charges. He's like, go ahead, keep going,
00:36:35
yeah. It's a whole different.
00:36:36
I haven't even started the 10 second count yet.
00:36:39
Yeah. Have I hit 10 seconds?
00:36:40
No. No, I promise you're good.
00:36:44
And So what I was thinking is that I don't know about you.
00:36:48
And we make Trey and I make glide of this for sure, but it
00:36:52
is horseshit. This guy is an old creepy guy
00:36:55
that grabbed this young lady. In a school.
00:36:58
And he gets off because, no pun intended, He gets out of the
00:37:03
charges because of. Of a thing like the 10 second
00:37:08
rule. And so I got to thinking I'm
00:37:11
pretty passionate about this. I'm frustrated.
00:37:14
You and I should probably go ahead and do a video grabbing
00:37:18
our regions. Each others or our own?
00:37:22
I don't know if that. That'll truly let us realize how
00:37:27
long 10 seconds is. We are willing to demonstrate
00:37:32
just how uncomfortable it is for 10 seconds.
00:37:36
My God. But this is again thinking of
00:37:38
your wife recording. This.
00:37:42
Well, that's why she insisted. I get that self recording.
00:37:46
She can stand doing this, yeah. So I don't know.
00:37:49
I feel like this is trending. People are doing this, and I'm
00:37:56
in all seriousness, we support that.
00:37:58
This movement on TikTok and Twitter and Instagram.
00:38:03
It's. I just couldn't believe it.
00:38:05
This is so silly. That is interesting.
00:38:07
He imagines something in this country.
00:38:08
I mean Italy. I'm so surprised.
00:38:10
Italy seems like they got their shit together.
00:38:13
I wonder what the judge was going, what was going through
00:38:15
his mind when he actually read that.
00:38:18
It was less than 10 seconds, so you're good.
00:38:21
I I don't. I don't know if the judges like.
00:38:23
Did the judge think you know this?
00:38:24
Is like, is the judge 66 also, And he, like, winked at the guy.
00:38:27
I got you. High five.
00:38:29
Way to go. But again, when you read, I know
00:38:32
they they have to go by letter of the law, but I wonder if in
00:38:34
the back of his mind he's like, this is fucked up.
00:38:37
You know well, how can you not? I just don't.
00:38:40
I cannot imagine anybody in the world thinking this is OK.
00:38:44
Except for apparently the guy. Antonio.
00:38:46
The the, the grabbed. I just.
00:38:48
Yeah. It's just not.
00:38:50
Especially a kid. Not that it's not that it's okay
00:38:53
to to grow up a woman, but I'm just saying especially.
00:38:56
What if I said she was 19? You'd be like, all right, good
00:38:58
job. Well, no, no, I'm joking,
00:38:59
joking, that's. The point, is that it's just, I
00:39:04
read it. We we kind of made fun of it to
00:39:07
a point. That's what Trey and I do.
00:39:10
Deep down, though, I think we're both in agreement.
00:39:13
I don't think there's a debate here.
00:39:14
Yeah, that's pretty fucked up. So we will work on our videos.
00:39:20
In support of the 10 second, again I tried my best with the
00:39:24
Italian accent, but I don't think I did very well.
00:39:27
You did not. We'll see.
00:39:29
You don't even know Italian. You're like no, it sounded
00:39:33
nothing like Italian. So I didn't feel like I was in
00:39:36
Italy. At all.
00:39:38
Any Italian listeners let me know how that accent was.
00:39:42
Well, let's bring it back across the pond.
00:39:46
Got it. How do you feel about that?
00:39:47
Let's do that. So.
00:39:50
There's a a Michigan hairdresser.
00:39:53
Have you heard this story? About a Michigan hairdresser.
00:39:56
Yes. I have no.
00:39:59
Okay, I feel like it's it's it's kind of been out there so I
00:40:01
never know how how out there it is.
00:40:05
So there's an an A Michigan hairdresser and there and she's
00:40:08
claiming she is antiwoke okay and she's banning non binary
00:40:16
people. From her salon.
00:40:19
Wow, it's a bold move, So. I won't, I won't finish the the
00:40:23
headline yet because what she says next is is absolutely it
00:40:28
gives. It'll give us a chuckle because
00:40:30
that's just who we are, but it's it's a little over the top.
00:40:35
So what she's basically saying is if you walk into her salon
00:40:38
and you are uncertain of your pronoun being him or her, he or
00:40:45
she, if you're not a man or woman.
00:40:48
If if you identify something other than a man or a woman, she
00:40:54
is telling you to seek services at the local pet groomer down
00:41:02
the street. Wow.
00:41:04
She's just the pet groomer. The pet.
00:41:06
Groomer Wow. Down the street.
00:41:09
So it it kind of leads me to, I hate to say it's our serious
00:41:14
topic of the night because I don't want to go off too long on
00:41:16
it. But it made me start thinking
00:41:18
about all these businesses that are being not attacked, but
00:41:22
they're being under the spotlight a little bit on their
00:41:26
opinions, who they service, who they offer their business to.
00:41:32
And this is just another example of.
00:41:36
Okay, I don't think she had to say the pet groomer comment, do
00:41:39
you? I.
00:41:39
Mean. No, That's going a little too
00:41:40
far. That's kind of insulting.
00:41:42
Yeah, just say your beliefs only allow you to offer services to
00:41:52
binary people, people that identify as man or woman, right?
00:41:56
And I think it's okay for them to, I don't want to say pick and
00:41:59
choose who they. That's not something they are
00:42:02
okay with. I think it's okay for a business
00:42:04
to make that. Yeah, I tend.
00:42:06
To this decision, I tend to agree.
00:42:07
But you're going. Business.
00:42:08
Yeah. Going too far with the whole
00:42:10
going to a dog groomer. That's kind of shitty.
00:42:13
Well, that's what I want to ask you is that pet groomer comment
00:42:16
aside, do you think the businesses have a right to do
00:42:20
this? Yes, Okay and I don't.
00:42:23
I'm always looking for things to argue with you on, but I don't
00:42:26
think I disagree with you here either, I think.
00:42:28
But no, I was just going to say, I feel like a business could has
00:42:31
the right to decide who they want to serve.
00:42:34
Your business is their business. Now.
00:42:35
If they end up getting backlash for it, well you know that's on
00:42:39
them too. So that's also.
00:42:41
Yeah, they can't complain. Yeah, if they have a huge.
00:42:44
So they make a stand to that, then they have to, you know?
00:42:48
Well, there's like a. I think there was what was that
00:42:52
big one For a while there, the cake shop.
00:42:54
There was a cake shop up there that that refused to do a cake
00:42:58
for two gay men and do the little little. 2 gay guys at the
00:43:03
top of the. Action figure guy at the top of
00:43:06
the cake and just refused to do it.
00:43:08
Well, that's, you know, whether or not you think that that
00:43:11
person's an asshole or not. That's fine.
00:43:13
But it bottom line is, it's his or her business.
00:43:15
So whatever I mean. There are a lot of other
00:43:19
companies that can do the cake exactly.
00:43:20
Just go, why would you want a cake from that business anyway?
00:43:25
And so whether you agree with the cake owner or not, just move
00:43:29
on. And that's the problem is that
00:43:31
everybody wants to bring everything to the forefront
00:43:33
here. There are always going to be
00:43:35
people that disagree with you don't do business with them
00:43:40
unless there's a unless there is a one business.
00:43:44
It has a monopoly on a product and you can't get it anywhere
00:43:48
else in the world. Then maybe you have an issue.
00:43:52
Even then, I don't think you have an issue.
00:43:53
Even then, you don't think. So yeah, I do.
00:43:56
I had a little story about Lance Armstrong getting a little
00:43:58
backlash about. The cyclist.
00:44:00
The transgender athletes should compete in their own category.
00:44:02
Whoa, I know. We kind of mentioned that a
00:44:04
little bit too. And he just said on this podcast
00:44:08
supposedly that transgender athletes should compete in their
00:44:11
own category. And I guess he was talking to
00:44:15
Ronda Rousey and some people on the show, one of his most key
00:44:20
employees, they're transitioning.
00:44:22
Like I said, I have no problem with that.
00:44:24
I love it. Let's go.
00:44:26
To me, I think we just have to care about it.
00:44:28
If you otherwise people it's not good for their mental health is
00:44:32
what one of the one of the people on the show were saying
00:44:36
is that if we characterize it as something I guess different then
00:44:40
it doesn't help with their. Their mindset as far as trying
00:44:43
to go through this transitioning process.
00:44:45
But does the alternative help either?
00:44:48
Like, I just feel like there's enough scrutiny in the
00:44:52
alternative as well. Like why would they not be a
00:44:54
little more and you and I talked about this right?
00:44:57
About having, possibly having their own?
00:44:59
Division. Division, leagues and whatever.
00:45:01
And I know that the argument is there's not enough, but that
00:45:05
argument also goes against you as well, which is like, well,
00:45:08
there's okay, well, there's. There's not enough to form an
00:45:11
entire leagues around the country.
00:45:13
Then maybe you need to realize that the majority here need to
00:45:17
also be focused on. And I think, I think they're
00:45:22
trying to take this argument maybe a little further outside
00:45:27
of the sports realm. As far as she mentioned, we kind
00:45:31
of exclude them from the same spaces and places that everybody
00:45:34
else in is gonna mess with their mental right.
00:45:36
But it's really just a sporting. Yeah, it's a sport.
00:45:40
We're talking about the sport, right?
00:45:42
Yeah. So I mean, I mean, he's not
00:45:46
saying anything of bashing transgender.
00:45:48
He just mentioned maybe they should have their own their own
00:45:51
league or their own division or. And I've thought of that too.
00:45:54
And I've had kind of people agree and people disagree.
00:45:57
So and that's the way it should be.
00:45:59
But people come at me and they're like, yeah, but again,
00:46:02
there's not enough people. It puts them under the
00:46:05
microscope. Well, look, they're already
00:46:06
under the microscope for sure. You're in a league with, you
00:46:12
know, people who are not like you when it comes to your sex.
00:46:19
I mean, like on a literal basis. And you're under the microscope
00:46:23
there. So at least if everybody's kind
00:46:26
of the same and you're in this division, this league, whatever,
00:46:30
it's fair competition. I.
00:46:34
Can't imagine, Trey, that there wouldn't be a vast majority of
00:46:38
people that have a problem with transgender athletes performing
00:46:46
in like, the women divisions, Right.
00:46:49
Right. I can't imagine that these
00:46:51
people would would not be like, that's really good if if they
00:46:55
have a league of their own. Does that make sense?
00:46:58
Yeah. Like, I just feel like more
00:47:00
support would go their way. Like, I don't.
00:47:04
Look, I'll limit to you right now.
00:47:05
I'd probably watch some of that. I think it'd be great.
00:47:09
I mean, it's like a whole different realm of athletic
00:47:14
possibility, if you will. I mean, we can look and TuneIn
00:47:18
and go, all right, let's see what they have to offer here.
00:47:23
If there's a UFC fight or boxing or something like that, and it's
00:47:26
their division. OK, here we go.
00:47:29
Let's see. Now I wonder if they'll start
00:47:31
really digging into the the numbers of it, if it, if they're
00:47:35
trying to like are the same two people gonna have to keep
00:47:37
fighting each other? I mean, I just don't understand,
00:47:39
are there enough athletes out there to do something like this
00:47:42
or? That's the argument against me
00:47:44
is that there aren't enough to do this and that's why I should
00:47:47
not suggest it. But again, that just because
00:47:51
that's the cases, I mean you throw them in with the vast
00:47:53
majority and that's my issue with it is that you've got
00:47:57
people. We got women have been competing
00:47:59
since they were born in some of these sports, and all of a
00:48:04
sudden you're going to take away their ability to reach their
00:48:09
goals because of somebody that might come in that has an
00:48:14
advantage over you. And I think that's my issue is
00:48:18
the other people. So yeah, yeah.
00:48:21
Sorry, I've been looking at all these comments and I just don't.
00:48:24
Understand. Yeah, I've got even noticed
00:48:25
though, your focus over. There I was trying to read
00:48:27
through this and it just. I just don't understand the
00:48:29
backlash. I mean, I.
00:48:31
Backlash you. You mean Lance is getting back?
00:48:33
Yeah. Towards making these comments
00:48:35
about them having their own division, I think, I only think
00:48:37
that would be fair. Well, I look when you soon as
00:48:40
you said that, I knew he was probably getting crushed.
00:48:42
But you're telling me you're kind of seeing, what are you
00:48:44
seeing? Are you seeing like it's just
00:48:47
like a lot of people are saying, hey.
00:48:49
How dare you? You.
00:48:50
I mean, is he? It's?
00:48:51
It's almost like they're. Unpopular is what you're saying.
00:48:53
Yeah, bringing up all of his politics and all of his thoughts
00:48:57
and stuff like that. Making him feel like he, I guess
00:48:59
the. Trying to learn the terminology
00:49:01
or the a far right wing as we talked about that and.
00:49:06
He they're saying he's a far right winger.
00:49:08
Because he's making this reference.
00:49:10
He's not against anything as far as transitioning or anything
00:49:14
like he's not trashing anything like that.
00:49:16
He's just saying, hey, why don't we have a different division for
00:49:18
that? This is exactly what we do in
00:49:20
the show, Trey. Yeah, Lance Armstrong would be.
00:49:25
With this topic, at least I don't know his other politics.
00:49:28
Yeah, it would be in the Gray. Area in the Gray area he'd.
00:49:30
Be sitting here in our guest seat that was filled by Antoine
00:49:37
in a couple shows ago and he would be sitting here going, I'm
00:49:40
with you guys, I'm with you because I don't disagree with
00:49:43
him. 100% I think it's at least something to look into, right?
00:49:47
Why do we not at least go hey, why don't we check this out?
00:49:49
Or just have a discussion. This guy can't have a
00:49:52
discussion. This guy's had some relative
00:49:53
success in his field and might have been aided a little bit
00:49:57
here and there wasn't. In case he's listening, I don't
00:50:00
want to mention that, but bottom line is that he you can't say
00:50:05
that he wasn't a dominant athlete in his sport, right?
00:50:09
And so did for him to just say, hey, look, why don't we talk
00:50:12
about this? I don't see any reason.
00:50:15
But again, I'm not surprised by the backlash.
00:50:17
So you were unfortunately. Yeah, it's just.
00:50:20
And again, I'm getting, I get it too.
00:50:22
I think I mentioned a couple times on Twitter, I said
00:50:25
nothing. It meant it had nothing to do
00:50:28
with any politics at all. And all of a sudden I'm called
00:50:31
all these things and I'm like, wait a second, really.
00:50:33
Like, I was unaware of that I'm this so right.
00:50:35
Please enlighten me. When and I've I've got another
00:50:38
little story I was kind of curious about.
00:50:40
I don't have kids. And so I was kind of curious
00:50:43
since you've got two boys, how this would affect you.
00:50:47
I don't know if you would go off the deep end like this gentleman
00:50:49
did, but if you went into your two boys going in to get a
00:50:54
physical, you know, their annual physical or whatever, and this
00:50:58
is not. With Lance Armstrong.
00:50:59
No, that's actually a different story.
00:51:01
Sorry, I didn't transition well on that one.
00:51:03
No, no, you're supposed to I. Wanted to make sure.
00:51:06
That we weren't referring to Lance Armstrong.
00:51:07
No, this is not Lance Armstrong. So you're telling me that
00:51:10
there's a regular doctor's office?
00:51:13
Regular doctor's office. You go into the doctor's office.
00:51:15
Let me ask you this, for your boys.
00:51:16
If this would frustrate you, throw you off a little bit, cuz
00:51:19
this kind of threw me off. It didn't frustrate, it didn't
00:51:21
make me mad, but it just kind of made me think, why is that?
00:51:25
And that's my big question, why? I think every story we tell, it
00:51:29
makes us go. Why?
00:51:31
Those are listeners are saying. Why?
00:51:32
Yeah, why? You know, grabbing ass for 9.5
00:51:35
seconds. Right is OK.
00:51:37
Yeah. Why So the there's a gentleman
00:51:40
in, I believe it's in New Jersey.
00:51:43
You go into the doctor's office with your two boys, OK?
00:51:46
And the doctor happens to look down at your, your oldest son.
00:51:50
My youngest wouldn't know what the fuck was.
00:51:51
Going on Right. And and honestly, I guess at
00:51:53
this age they probably wouldn't. Let's say he's nine years old,
00:51:55
just like in this story. So this kid is 9.
00:51:57
Nine years old. He's got two boys, 9:00 and
00:51:59
7:00, so I'll envision my. My 3 year old being older.
00:52:03
There you go. So you go into the doctor's
00:52:05
office. The doctor actually looks to
00:52:06
your oldest son and says how do you identify?
00:52:11
God. Seriously.
00:52:12
Yeah. So one.
00:52:15
I guess I don't. But again, it's not.
00:52:17
And I don't mean to cut you off. It's not like what you said a
00:52:20
minute ago. It's not like I'm going.
00:52:23
To to anybody that I didn't you know and identifies differently
00:52:27
than what they are. I just don't understand the
00:52:29
purpose, yeah. But why?
00:52:31
And why would you lead with that?
00:52:32
Like why would you question it? And and I don't want to assume I
00:52:35
don't know if it was led with that.
00:52:37
I don't know what part of the physical was it and apparently
00:52:39
the the mother took the two boys in but then called the the dad
00:52:43
and told him he went on a TikTok rant about it which I'm maybe
00:52:46
that was a little bit overboard but I just you know I was I was
00:52:50
curious since you have kids. I don't.
00:52:52
You know how you would feel? Would that be frustrating?
00:52:55
And to me it was kind of a Why does it matter?
00:52:58
Type deal. If my kid has an earache or my
00:53:01
kid has a sore throat or whatever the case may be, is
00:53:04
what was the need for that question?
00:53:06
Does it change the care? Does it change how the doctor is
00:53:09
going to treat my son? Yeah.
00:53:12
I mean that's that's the basic right there is that it obviously
00:53:15
shouldn't matter unless there's some sort of a.
00:53:19
Well, at that age it doesn't matter.
00:53:21
If somebody as an adult was taking different hormones and
00:53:25
doing that, then maybe the doctor needs to know that in
00:53:27
order to treat that. Person.
00:53:28
But do they take hormones at that age?
00:53:30
That's what I'm saying at 9:00. There's no reason to ask that at
00:53:35
all unless I don't know. Unless the doctor just is awoke
00:53:40
or feels like you know, I don't. I don't know.
00:53:43
It really doesn't make any sense.
00:53:45
And it's confusing because, again, it's not about.
00:53:49
Adults that feel like they need to transition and all that like
00:53:52
be happy. I've said it.
00:53:53
We've said it how many times on the show.
00:53:55
Try be happy. We're OK with.
00:53:57
I mean we're not sitting here going, this is all disgusting.
00:54:01
But for children at nine years old again, I know my kids only
00:54:07
almost four but he's sitting here going today.
00:54:11
I want to be Captain America for Halloween. 4 hours later.
00:54:15
It's. No, no.
00:54:16
The flash. The flash.
00:54:17
Yeah. The next day it's.
00:54:18
You know, even. You know what?
00:54:20
I'll admit it. He said he would be Wonder
00:54:21
Woman. Okay.
00:54:23
I'm not gonna sit here and go. Don't say that.
00:54:26
Because, you know, whatever. When he says he wants to wear
00:54:31
mama's shoes, I might. We're not going to.
00:54:35
But I guess I did miss this actually.
00:54:38
The doctor or the doctor said that.
00:54:40
That was the first question. The doctor, Sorry, the father
00:54:43
said. This was the first question that
00:54:46
Doctor asked. First question.
00:54:47
Right was asking to this young boy whether he identifies as a
00:54:51
boy, a girl, gender fluid or nonbinary.
00:54:54
To a nine year old. I don't even think I could
00:54:56
answer that question if they're. Fluid means.
00:54:58
Yeah, or nonbinary. Right So.
00:55:01
I mean kind of figure about nonbinary but I mean come on but
00:55:05
but my point was with the with my story was that my my kid
00:55:10
doesn't know. What he wants in the span of a
00:55:14
couple hours, much less for his entire life.
00:55:18
And we've talked about this before as with the Target stuff
00:55:21
and it's kids. Just just talk to them as they
00:55:29
go along. But don't this is so drastic.
00:55:32
You're asking a nine year old child if he's man.
00:55:37
Boy, girl, non binary. This that.
00:55:40
I mean, what was the other one that I didn't?
00:55:42
It was the third one that was gender fluid.
00:55:45
Ginger fluid. What does that even mean?
00:55:46
I don't know. And so we're not hip, apparently
00:55:50
at all. And so, yeah, I'd be annoyed by
00:55:54
it. You're telling me this Dad got
00:55:57
really annoyed by it? Yeah, he went on TikTok and went
00:55:59
crazy. Or I would shouldn't say crazy.
00:56:01
He just went on a rant over and over.
00:56:03
Well, fair enough. I mean, I don't.
00:56:05
I don't know why the doctor felt that that was necessary, Right?
00:56:07
Right. Maybe you ask the parent Before
00:56:10
you do, do you mind if I ask this or I feel like with
00:56:14
children you really need to toe the line.
00:56:16
There's no. Especially with a doctor.
00:56:18
Now maybe if he was going to maybe a psychiatrist or a
00:56:21
therapist, maybe that's a question that you asked.
00:56:23
But if you're going to a doctor, getting a physical, I guess I
00:56:26
don't understand. The reason?
00:56:28
I mean, that's a good point if you're taking your nine year old
00:56:31
to a psychologist. Our psychiatrist with a dress on
00:56:35
whatever. Maybe they answer that question.
00:56:37
You can ask that question because you're trying to figure
00:56:40
out what's going on mentally. But if you're going to a doctor,
00:56:43
and I admit that there are some doctors, some GPS and some
00:56:49
piece, what do they call Pcps? I haven't tried that yet.
00:56:54
And all these doctors that they're trying to kind of
00:56:58
especially with people with depression, anxiety and all
00:57:00
this, they're trying to. Almost act like a shrink and try
00:57:05
and ask some mental you know, there's some paperwork where
00:57:08
they're like, you know, how many times this week did you feel
00:57:11
down or you know, so they're trying to get to it.
00:57:14
But not for a nine year old kid. You don't need to ask a nine
00:57:18
year old these things in my in this my opinion.
00:57:21
So write us at trey@stainthegravepodcast.com if
00:57:27
you disagree with us, but I think both of us kind of agree.
00:57:31
Especially when it comes to the kiddos.
00:57:32
I don't. I just don't get it.
00:57:34
So anyway. Yeah, that's really what it
00:57:37
comes down to with me. And like you said, as a dad, I'm
00:57:40
just sitting here going, come on, like, I mean again, the kid
00:57:44
just wants to go and like play with his favorite action figure
00:57:47
and watch a watch a Disney movie and shit.
00:57:50
And you're sitting here asking him whether he's gender fluid.
00:57:53
I still don't know what that. Mean very gender fluid?
00:57:56
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I mean the.
00:57:59
Kids just probably looking at him like, yeah, what in that?
00:58:03
And I don't blame the dad for getting frustrated.
00:58:05
I don't. I don't know.
00:58:07
I might have asked. I would have straight up asked
00:58:09
the doctor. Like, why are you asking?
00:58:10
Right, right. And I'm sure the mom did.
00:58:12
Apparently the. Mom was one in control.
00:58:15
Yeah, and then she told Dad about it and Dad was not happy.
00:58:18
Okay. So Mom was there.
00:58:19
Dad was not okay. Well, anyway, but that's the
00:58:24
point. And So what it all boils back to
00:58:27
is that. The idea of businesses and are
00:58:30
they allowed to to do their own thing and and and not have to
00:58:34
cater to everybody and and in the world we're in right now.
00:58:38
I think Trey and I believe correct me if I'm wrong Trey I
00:58:42
believe that we want everybody to be happy right and the the
00:58:47
problem is is the word everybody everybody does not only mean
00:58:54
these people that feel. Like they identify something
00:58:59
else other than what they were born as.
00:59:02
That's not everybody, that's just them.
00:59:04
And it's a very, very tiny percentage, even though Antoine
00:59:07
and Meg let us know that it's more than you think, even though
00:59:11
the percentage is small. What about the other people?
00:59:17
If there's 300 million that are less than 1%?
00:59:21
How many, how many people are there that are 99 point
00:59:24
something percent? Yeah.
00:59:25
And that's my point is that you can't forget about those people
00:59:28
too. I want to feel special.
00:59:30
Yeah, right. I mean, I don't know what person
00:59:31
wants. I don't know what group you're.
00:59:33
What percent? I don't either anymore.
00:59:34
And then that's that's the only thing I have an issue with is
00:59:37
like you let's all figure out how to.
00:59:40
Make Trey feel special. Make Trey feel special and and
00:59:45
make everybody happy. And to live the best life that
00:59:49
they can, including Trey and minority groups like LG.
00:59:56
Did I say right? LBGTQ.
00:59:59
No. Whatever.
01:00:01
You know what I mean, People, I. Need to write those letters.
01:00:04
Down. I need to write it down.
01:00:05
I didn't cheat, cheat and there an I and an A.
01:00:08
Now didn't Meg tell us that or? I think she did.
01:00:10
There was another A. Something like that.
01:00:11
But you know, we're not disrespecting anybody.
01:00:14
We just don't know. We're idiots.
01:00:16
But anyway, let's move on from that to something that, you
01:00:22
know, Trey and I always talk about the fact that we were
01:00:23
going to do a sports podcast. Right, Trey?
01:00:26
Right. Or at least a podcast that had a
01:00:29
decent amount of sports picks and things like that in it.
01:00:33
And then we realized that that it's saturated and we do a lot
01:00:39
better at just giving you the crazy headlines.
01:00:45
And talking about these issues. But here's a sports story, and I
01:00:50
think you know what I'm talking about, Trey.
01:00:53
You'd be surprised. In Chicago, IL, there is a
01:00:58
university there called Northwestern.
01:01:00
Have you heard of them? The Wildcats?
01:01:03
The Wildcats, right. Why do you think you've heard of
01:01:06
Northwestern Wildcats? Is it because of like, football
01:01:09
team? Football, yeah.
01:01:11
I would say more football than any other sport, yeah.
01:01:13
No. They're a very, very prestigious
01:01:15
school. They're a top academic school,
01:01:18
academic, academic, academic. They're very, very.
01:01:23
It's a very difficult school to get into and they have very,
01:01:26
very good credentials. But their football team has
01:01:30
actually held its own right in the Big 10 conference.
01:01:35
The reason for that, in my opinion.
01:01:38
Is a man by the name of Pat Fitzgerald, who has been their
01:01:42
head coach for 17 years. But he also played for
01:01:45
Northwestern before he coached. So he's very, very.
01:01:49
Keep it in the family. He's very part of Northwestern.
01:01:51
I mean he, in case you don't know, Northwestern is purple.
01:01:55
He's very purple. I was gonna.
01:01:56
Say very purple. He just got fired.
01:01:59
Oh shit. After a long time he's it's a
01:02:03
very, very difficult thing to have a school.
01:02:07
As prestigious as Northwestern, compete in a Power 5 conference
01:02:12
in football and other things, I don't think they're that bad at
01:02:15
basketball or other things as well.
01:02:17
I think that they're competing, but in football, in a conference
01:02:21
with Michigan and Ohio State and Penn State, they've held their
01:02:24
own. I mean, they've had what you
01:02:26
would call upsets and there had plenty of them.
01:02:28
And they've also been to, I think in the last couple years
01:02:33
they've been to a Big 10 championship.
01:02:36
And so Pat Fitzgerald has always been there.
01:02:38
He's, you know, even when I watch football, which I watch a
01:02:41
lot of college ball, as do you, I see him on the sidelines.
01:02:44
And it's just kind of like that's Northwestern is this guy.
01:02:48
So what happened was is what would you think if I asked you
01:02:53
would be something that would cause a coach with this tenure
01:02:57
to be removed? There's got to be something
01:03:01
drastic, right? When I think of football, I
01:03:04
would assume record. I would assume you know
01:03:07
something, maybe. Right, Yeah.
01:03:09
The kids doing stupid stuff so it looks bad on the program or,
01:03:12
you know, whatever the case may be, is there.
01:03:14
Whether it's drinking, whether it's partying, whether, yeah.
01:03:19
I think my college Texas A and M there, our new offensive
01:03:23
coordinator had an issue with a Coed on the back of his
01:03:26
motorcycle when they crashed. Oh, Petrino.
01:03:29
Oh, that's right. When he was with Arkansas, you
01:03:32
have these issues. And so you would think that
01:03:35
immediately, right? Well, no, this is about hazing
01:03:39
at Northwestern. Interesting.
01:03:41
And so you're going okay like, I mean, I don't know.
01:03:44
You wouldn't think of them as some big.
01:03:46
I mean, you're just not. It's not a football.
01:03:48
It's not a school that focuses on athletics.
01:03:52
They would be above this, right? And So what they're saying is
01:03:55
that there's a lot of sexual misconduct.
01:04:00
In these hazings, if you will, and former players have come out
01:04:07
and said, hey, this is what's going on.
01:04:09
Okay. And so I'm gonna go ahead and
01:04:15
I'll tell you some of these, what some of the hazing that
01:04:19
they're claiming is. So some of these hazing
01:04:25
traditions, if you will, there's.
01:04:29
One that says freshmen, it's it's a lot of this.
01:04:33
A freshman obviously, because it's hazing, right?
01:04:35
And so there, there when you make a mistake is kind of when
01:04:39
you know you're going to get hazed, which I don't know if
01:04:42
that's good or bad. I don't know if it's like, oh
01:04:44
shit, oh shit, here comes the ball.
01:04:45
If I drop it, I'm fucked. Yeah, but a lot of damn
01:04:48
pressure. Yeah, in the span of like 2
01:04:51
seconds. Right, but.
01:04:53
They said the freshmen were forced to strip naked and
01:04:57
perform various acts. Including bear crawling Wow and
01:05:02
slingshotting themselves across the floor with exercise bands.
01:05:09
That sounds fun, actually. I'm sitting here going, all
01:05:11
right, that's kind of funny. And so I don't know if that's.
01:05:16
I guess being butt naked, does that just help you slide across
01:05:18
the floor a little bit easier? I would think it'd be harder,
01:05:21
right? I guess it depends on if the
01:05:23
floor's looped up or not. But right.
01:05:26
Maybe they put some. But that's the my thing right
01:05:29
now is I'm looking for we've all been in sports.
01:05:34
Not all of us, but you and I we've.
01:05:37
I went to an all guy school. Like these things aren't.
01:05:42
It's not unheard of. It's not crazy.
01:05:44
This isn't like unique, but it happens.
01:05:47
But where's the line? That's my question.
01:05:50
And so you're sitting here going, OK, are those two things,
01:05:52
I mean being naked in front of dudes, like, OK, who cares?
01:05:56
Slingshotting across the floor like you said sounds fun.
01:05:59
Is that really something that would be uncomfortable?
01:06:01
I guess if you're if you're being forced to be naked, I
01:06:05
guess that's when it goes over the line.
01:06:08
If you're just stupid idiot guys getting butt naked, slapping
01:06:11
each other with the towel or whatever, you know that's the
01:06:13
normal Wednesday night for me. But maybe that's frowned upon at
01:06:18
the. End of Monday.
01:06:19
Yeah, well. Maybe that's frowned on the pun
01:06:22
a little bit once you start forcing.
01:06:23
It be naked again. I think back when everybody just
01:06:26
in the locker room, just like you said, smacking each other
01:06:30
with towels and doing the whole snap thing and just like no one
01:06:33
cares and dongs out whatever, who cares?
01:06:37
Except for the ones with little dogs, they'd be over the corner
01:06:40
trying to hide it, unfortunately.
01:06:42
Yeah. But.
01:06:47
There's also a once a year tradition dubbed so.
01:06:49
So my my point with that was that those two things in my
01:06:52
opinion aren't that bad and I'm going to admit that whatever
01:06:55
guys were weird unless somebody flat out said no way, no how, I
01:07:00
don't want to do it and they were like literally physically
01:07:02
forced to do it and then then all bets are off.
01:07:06
There's a once a year tradition called the car wash.
01:07:11
Some players would stand naked at the entrance of the showers
01:07:15
and spin around. Forcing those entering the
01:07:20
showers to basically rub up against a bare naked man
01:07:25
entering the showers, players allege.
01:07:27
The players said they would also set up a hose like a in a car
01:07:31
wash and spray people and it's very painful.
01:07:36
I don't I guess they got like a power like a power hose or
01:07:38
something. And this is in the shower.
01:07:40
This. Is in the showers, and so again.
01:07:43
Okay, we're getting closer to that line.
01:07:45
But is it? I mean, we're all in the shower
01:07:47
naked together anyway. I would think you of all people
01:07:51
would be in support of this. I was never a locker room guy
01:07:54
really. I was the one showering with the
01:07:55
swimsuit on where the SO. You never participated in the
01:08:02
car wash. Not the car wash, no.
01:08:05
But the other stuff? Not yet.
01:08:07
We'll see. We'll see.
01:08:08
Okay. So that's one, and I'm not sure.
01:08:11
OK, well, I get it. Again, if you're very
01:08:14
uncomfortable with it, then whatever.
01:08:17
There was also something called the naked center quarterback
01:08:21
exchange, where freshman quarterback was forced to take a
01:08:26
snap from a freshman center while they were both naked.
01:08:30
Wow, that's super awesome. So.
01:08:33
If anybody doesn't understand football.
01:08:36
That's basically some guy reaching under right under the
01:08:40
like taint, taint or Gooch area, right under the bottom and the
01:08:47
testicles to take the snap for the ball and with no clothing or
01:08:52
padding. And just the lineman that are
01:08:54
bent over or just any. No, it's just a center and a
01:08:57
quarterback and that's it. And everybody watches and they
01:08:59
circle around and it's and you got to do it like 10 times.
01:09:02
See, not only would I be weirded out about doing this, but I
01:09:05
wouldn't want to sit around and watch two naked guys take a, you
01:09:09
know, snap a ball to each other. I just don't.
01:09:13
Yeah, what's fun? I mean, I guess if you, if they
01:09:15
were close, like think of a couple of our close friends,
01:09:19
would you would it be funny? No, no, I don't think so.
01:09:23
Fair enough. But that's, that's why I'm going
01:09:25
through this. It's kind of like okay, is it,
01:09:27
is it funny at all or? Yeah, it's starting to get
01:09:30
awkward and. You know the the people that
01:09:35
claimed this and of course they were, wanted to remain
01:09:37
anonymous, said one. In one instance, another player
01:09:41
was very vocally adamant about not wanting to do this, and
01:09:45
older players threatened to run him, which is another hazing
01:09:50
naked if there was and there was no other option.
01:09:54
So what they're saying is that OK, when somebody finally did
01:09:58
say I don't want to do this? Older players like you better or
01:10:02
else. And So what are you gonna do as
01:10:04
a freshman? And the fact that I'm watching
01:10:06
Northwestern play Wisconsin all this each Saturday and going you
01:10:11
just what's going on behind the scenes, you know the night
01:10:13
before somebody was getting car washed.
01:10:17
Naked relays or something down the hotel hallway or something.
01:10:21
What the fuck? So it's it's pretty.
01:10:24
I guess I don't understand the whole thing of needing to be
01:10:26
naked doing all this weird shit, you know?
01:10:28
I don't get it. Yeah, I And that's the point.
01:10:31
That's what a lot of people are saying is that why is that this
01:10:33
becomes sexual abuse? Has this been the full 17 years
01:10:36
he's been there? No, that what that and not
01:10:39
that's come out. They're talking about probably
01:10:41
the last, you know, 5 to 10 years.
01:10:43
There's been one that not even 5 to 10 probably the last couple
01:10:46
of years have been former. This is where the former players
01:10:50
are coming out now. So it more may come out.
01:10:54
And I'm kind of curious also with who is that one?
01:10:59
Cuz it had to have been a leader of the team, you would think it
01:11:02
would have to be one of the guys that commands that respect of
01:11:05
the team to say, you know what, let's whip our dogs out and have
01:11:09
some fun, you know? Well, I mean you and I became
01:11:12
every. Yeah.
01:11:15
Let's slap meet and record some shit.
01:11:19
But it's, you know, it's it's some.
01:11:21
Point Collegiate Football team. Because I can't, I can't imagine
01:11:24
the head coach going in and say, OK guys, I need y'all to get
01:11:27
butt naked and do some random dumb shit.
01:11:29
So one who was that one student that started this or that group
01:11:33
of students that started this, Because then all of a sudden, I
01:11:35
guess it became a thing. You know, where they're.
01:11:39
Saying that there were some hand signals given.
01:11:42
Representing some of these hazing, the titles like the car
01:11:45
wash and this and that, and then a practice when a freshman
01:11:48
messed up that that coach Fitzgerald was like doing the
01:11:52
hand signal. Oh shit.
01:11:54
So he didn't know about it? That's what they're saying.
01:11:57
That's why he's out. Gotcha.
01:11:59
So the first punishment was like 2 weeks suspension and the Oh
01:12:02
yeah, the president came back and said, you know, after
01:12:05
further, which means I got people in my ear.
01:12:08
Yeah, yeah. After further review, I'm going
01:12:10
to go ahead and fire this guy. And and So what it was was 1111
01:12:15
current or former players acknowledged the hazing has been
01:12:18
taking place. The hazing included forced
01:12:21
participation, nudity sexualized acts of degrading nature which I
01:12:27
think you know represented by what we've just said.
01:12:31
No students are have known to suffer physical injury.
01:12:34
OK well that's good. Some players found the hazing to
01:12:38
be harmful with long term consequences which I imagine
01:12:41
would be like. Mental right?
01:12:43
Not being able to take a shower without, yeah.
01:12:47
While others felt the rituals were in jest.
01:12:48
So they're admitting OK some or OK some weren't, which to be
01:12:54
expected. Hazing practices were well known
01:12:56
within the program, but there's no credible evidence that
01:12:59
Fitzgerald was aware of them. So they're saying there's no
01:13:02
credible evidence but. Come on, these people are
01:13:07
talking about the hand gestures and the signals and all that and
01:13:09
so. It makes me wonder too, these
01:13:11
guys, these guys are not small little bitty guys either, you
01:13:14
know? Do you would think they would be
01:13:15
bigger, you know, muscular? So at what point why wouldn't
01:13:19
they just stand up for their self unless there's a group of
01:13:22
them that demands that they had to go through with this?
01:13:25
Yeah, I mean. Or or even this, coach said,
01:13:28
Hey, you don't do this. You're off the team, you know,
01:13:30
Is it? Did it go that far, you think?
01:13:32
Well, and everything I know about Coach Fitzgerald until now
01:13:37
is that he's just been a class guy and he's been re represented
01:13:41
Northwestern for so long and he put him on the map.
01:13:44
You're talking about a college kind of like Vanderbilt and the
01:13:46
SEC very, very intellectual school, very academic focus.
01:13:52
It's very academic focused versus athletics and other
01:13:56
things and and to be competitive, I mean if
01:14:00
Northwesterns had some pretty decent teams.
01:14:02
I mean, they just have and they do the spread offense and they,
01:14:05
you know, they do the best with what they have.
01:14:07
But this guy Fitzgerald is probably been the reason.
01:14:13
And so all of a sudden you're going OK.
01:14:18
And they find out they're spreading a little bit more than
01:14:20
their offense. Yeah, they're spread offense.
01:14:23
There's a whole other definition to it.
01:14:25
And so. And I and I think that's where
01:14:28
the the issue is is like some people are going well he's a
01:14:30
great football coach OK what point do you draw the line on
01:14:36
that and and so I I want to hear more I want to see more like
01:14:39
usual and and and more evidence against coach Fitzgerald I mean
01:14:44
they went ahead and fired him so I'm assuming that they felt
01:14:47
there was enough evidence but man they said they haven't named
01:14:52
a replacement but this and that and whatever but.
01:14:56
We'll keep an eye on this, but I just want her to bring it up and
01:14:58
see if you had any hazing rituals that you would be
01:15:03
comfortable with. I think that you might be
01:15:04
comfortable with the car wash you might want to rub up against
01:15:09
somebody go. No, no, no, no.
01:15:12
What about the being sprayed with the hose?
01:15:15
No, I think the naked slingshots probably the only one.
01:15:18
I'd be the only one that might be kind of fun.
01:15:20
Would you? For the podcast, go in the front
01:15:23
yard here and do the naked hike, the snapping of the quarterback.
01:15:28
No, I don't want to end up in jail because I know your
01:15:31
neighbors would call. Yeah, they call my wife.
01:15:35
Yeah. What exactly is going on in
01:15:37
front yard? Oh.
01:15:38
Why is your husband and his friend out butt naked playing
01:15:41
football? But I would probably take go,
01:15:44
run and take a pass naked. I don't know about the center.
01:15:46
That's QB center exchange, but. Shotgun.
01:15:49
We'll be in the shotgun. I I I don't know if I think I
01:15:54
want to be the center because I don't need to be looking.
01:15:56
Yeah, I don't want to be in that spread office.
01:15:57
So you want my hands on your junk?
01:15:59
Is that what you're saying? No, no, Okay, we're going to
01:16:02
move on. But that's going along with
01:16:06
Northwestern and we'll see what happens.
01:16:08
And yeah, again, it's going to be weird seeing the sidelines
01:16:11
without Pat Fitzgerald because I watch a lot of college ball,
01:16:14
anybody that knows me, and that's going to be strange.
01:16:17
So we'll see. How Northwestern does without
01:16:20
them. I think last year was kind of a
01:16:21
bad season, but we'll see Anyway, I think the last thing
01:16:27
we wanna do tonight is probably kind of our we do with, don't we
01:16:32
do facts that kind of represent like we're almost in the
01:16:36
twilight zone. Yeah, some interesting weird
01:16:38
shit. Eventually, I'll learn what our
01:16:39
segments are called. But for now, how about some
01:16:42
interesting facts? Do you have any for us?
01:16:44
Absolutely. So the first one that jumps out
01:16:46
at me, there are more synopsis in your brain.
01:16:51
Synopsis. Synopsis, synopsis, synopsi.
01:16:54
It's. Not like octopi.
01:16:59
There are more of these. Synopses.
01:17:01
Synopses. I think so.
01:17:03
In your brain, right than stars in the Milky Way Galaxy.
01:17:07
What aren't there like 8 Katrillion?
01:17:11
Bajillion. Stars well my first question is,
01:17:14
is what is a synopsis synopsis? That's not.
01:17:18
Hard. It's a big word for me.
01:17:20
Okay. It's basically an analysis.
01:17:23
It's basically an alases. It's like a survey, like an
01:17:30
analysis of something. That was a great explanation.
01:17:33
I just don't know what the fuck it is, but we'll move.
01:17:36
On a synopsis, you're making an analysis of something.
01:17:38
You're analyzing it. You're.
01:17:42
You really don't. Do we need to look up the word
01:17:45
analysis? You should a lot of big words on
01:17:48
me tonight. I think you get it.
01:17:51
So it says. While while new stars seem to be
01:17:53
discovered continuously in our Milky Way Galaxy, thus far the
01:17:57
number is roughly 200 billion million stars.
01:18:01
Naturally, this is a lot of stars.
01:18:03
Right, right. Analysis, detailed.
01:18:07
A detailed examination of the elements of structure of
01:18:11
something. So again, an examination.
01:18:14
I don't even remember what my question was.
01:18:16
Analysis. Examination.
01:18:19
So it says in here, in just one human brain, there are more
01:18:23
synopsis, or nerve connections, than stars in the Milky Way.
01:18:27
Currently, neuroscientists are able to track these nerve
01:18:30
connections pretty well. Would you say 200 billion?
01:18:33
200 billion And that was just in the Milky Way, so.
01:18:36
You're telling me that you and I each have 200 billion plus.
01:18:40
Maybe that's why I can't think straight.
01:18:41
Synopsis in our heads which is analyzing we talked about and
01:18:46
analysis and analysis. Which is a detailed examination
01:18:51
of. Which is weird cuz I don't think
01:18:52
about shit most of the time. I just kind of thought with the
01:18:54
flu. I thought I would guess that you
01:18:56
had like 6. Yeah, and 1/2.
01:19:00
Much less 200 billion. What's weird?
01:19:02
I'll think about something, then bounce to something else and
01:19:04
then bounce and I go down that. Route that's why there's
01:19:06
200, do you go through 200 billion?
01:19:09
That's a possibility. That's that's pretty crazy.
01:19:13
So it says in a study on a three-year old.
01:19:17
Okay. Neuroscientist.
01:19:19
Researchers found nearly one quadrillion of these synopsis in
01:19:25
a three-year old. Quad.
01:19:26
Well, hold on, Quadrillion. That sounds quite brilliant.
01:19:29
Sounds made-up. Is that real?
01:19:30
That's real quadrillion. Quadrillion.
01:19:33
So this is important because we actually have far more as a
01:19:36
child than we do as an adult. That makes sense.
01:19:38
I don't know that's. Why they're always crazy?
01:19:40
I'm curious that you know as we talk about this ocean talk, when
01:19:43
we're going to jump down to the ocean a little bit more, I mean
01:19:46
do they have? To discover more than 20% of the
01:19:48
ocean bottoms. Do they just not have?
01:19:51
Well, there's the equipment isn't.
01:19:53
That's what I was about, that the.
01:19:54
Equipment isn't capable of handling the pressure, I
01:19:57
believe, and but you know, figure it out.
01:20:03
I mean, I mean, we have so many items that are so unnecessary in
01:20:06
this world with technology Like that might be something we
01:20:11
should look into. What if what if there's
01:20:13
something down there, dude that that is insane and we don't even
01:20:17
know about? And I'm curious at one point,
01:20:20
what made them decided to go after space more than they did
01:20:26
the water first, You know, it's like, let's go up instead of.
01:20:29
Now I think they were capable of it.
01:20:31
I don't think there was any. Anything preventing them from?
01:20:34
I think the technology allowed them to go, allowed us to go to
01:20:37
space first, and somehow there was something blocking more
01:20:43
ocean exploration. Does that make sense?
01:20:48
Kind of whether. It's whether it's pressure,
01:20:50
whether like the water pressure, whether it's you open to space,
01:20:55
you figure out how to have a suit that has oxygen in it.
01:20:59
But they had to start. To go down that road though, to
01:21:02
want to figure this shit out, why didn't they go the other way
01:21:05
and decide let's go down into the water?
01:21:07
Well, maybe they are now. I don't know.
01:21:09
So let's see. But like I said, maybe it's just
01:21:11
more difficult. And maybe the Russians didn't
01:21:13
care as much about the water. Yeah, that was a big thing, was
01:21:16
that there was a race. To.
01:21:18
Space and it's still going on. Did you know that?
01:21:21
I didn't. Is it on ESPN?
01:21:25
Yeah, yeah. They talk about the Russian US
01:21:27
space race. Space Race on ESPN all the time,
01:21:31
yeah. And the last little tidbit here.
01:21:33
Yeah, last tidbit we need. To this is kind of interesting.
01:21:36
More time separates the T Rex from the Stegosaurus than T
01:21:41
rexes from today's humans. Shut the fuck up.
01:21:46
Yeah, that's what it says on here.
01:21:47
Really. Wait, hold on.
01:21:49
Okay. When I think of the T Rex and
01:21:52
the Stegosaurus, I would assume they are.
01:21:55
I don't know. I thought they were chilling
01:21:56
together. That's what it says, I said.
01:21:58
We often see people looping time periods together and somehow
01:22:01
pretend that certain creatures live alongside the other, so
01:22:05
this is not shocking to see, only because movies and
01:22:07
televisions tend to shape our thoughts.
01:22:09
Well, I get that. Yet they get their facts wrong a
01:22:11
lot, which kind of is the same thing we do on this show.
01:22:16
Well, what's our, what's our philosophy?
01:22:18
Go look it up yourself. Yeah, yeah.
01:22:20
I mean, Meg started that. So in an example of this, there
01:22:24
is a large separation in time between the Tyrannosaurus Rex
01:22:27
and Stegosaurus. It says the Stegosaurus began
01:22:30
roaming the Earth roughly 150 million years ago.
01:22:33
This happened during the Jurassic period of our Mesozoic
01:22:37
era. Good job.
01:22:39
Did that, OK. You did?
01:22:40
Yet major archaeology shit, then I just.
01:22:45
I love you. Mess up like a easier.
01:22:47
Archaeological evidence has found that this species was
01:22:51
distinct for 80 million years when crostaceous dinosaurs
01:22:56
seriously same to came to be. Oh my God.
01:22:58
Since the T Rex was part of that area era, it did not appear.
01:23:02
I don't 67 million years ago. I part of me wants to shut my
01:23:06
ears and go La La La La because. Everything I've known is like I
01:23:09
just lumped the dinosaurs together.
01:23:11
Don't you? Right, they all, they were all
01:23:12
together. Yeah, they were all.
01:23:13
Together, that meant 80 million years between those two.
01:23:17
That's insane. It's.
01:23:18
Fucking crazy. I always thought Tynosaurus
01:23:20
walked by. Stegosaurus was like, what's up,
01:23:22
bro? And I thought it was just, they
01:23:24
were together 80 million years between Stegosaurus and
01:23:29
Tyrannosaurus. That can't be right.
01:23:31
Yeah, it can't be right. 67 million years between the T Rex
01:23:34
and us? Wow, that's crazy.
01:23:37
That's crazy because I look, I know there's a whole, you know,
01:23:42
however many periods during the dinosaur age.
01:23:45
I get that, and everybody wants to lump them completely
01:23:50
together, and that's fine. But I wouldn't have guessed
01:23:54
there would be 80 million years between them, that's all.
01:23:57
Kind of pissed off about how Jurassic Park, right, misled me.
01:24:02
When the opening scene at a trinosaurus and a stegosaurus
01:24:05
hanging out drinking. So, I mean, at this point, I
01:24:07
don't. I may not watch Jurassic Park
01:24:09
ever again. I'm going to put my foot down.
01:24:11
That's my stance. I had a great first date at
01:24:14
Jurassic Park. Yeah, I was 15.
01:24:17
Yeah. Took a girl to Jurassic Park.
01:24:18
Oh, yeah, Yeah. She wanted what?
01:24:20
She wanted to go, so I'm not going to argue with her, so we
01:24:23
held hands. Since we're talking about dates
01:24:24
and movies I took a girl to I don't know if you remember this
01:24:28
movie called Eyes Wide Shut. Oh my God.
01:24:31
Do you remember that? Yeah, not to mention it was
01:24:34
awkward, cuz it was kind of a first date.
01:24:36
Wait, when was this? This was a long time ago.
01:24:38
I know it was a long time ago when Eyes Wide Shut came out,
01:24:41
but I'm talking. I saw Jurassic Park with the
01:24:43
girl when I was 15. What are you talking about?
01:24:46
This would have been 1920. 1920. 19 or 20, sorry, 19 or 20?
01:24:56
19 or 20, OK. That's that's a lot older than
01:24:59
what I'm talking about. Go ahead.
01:25:01
But yeah, you go in to see that movie Eyes Wide Shut, and not
01:25:04
only was it kind of, I knew nothing about this movie, OK?
01:25:07
She she loved the director. She said, you want to go see
01:25:10
this? It had Tom Cruise and I think
01:25:11
was there a cold Kidman in there too?
01:25:13
Yeah. At the time, it was his wife.
01:25:14
Knew nothing about this movie. OK, And so we get in there, and
01:25:17
not only is it kind of a first date, the place was crowded.
01:25:21
But she knew she. Knew.
01:25:23
I'm sure she knew. Well, OK, the place was.
01:25:25
Except that and fucking well I did.
01:25:27
After that, during the movie, whenever the fuck was going on,
01:25:30
I was like. Did the popcorn?
01:25:32
Trick. Well, no.
01:25:33
It was weird because we were there was literally the the
01:25:36
place was packed and so there was people on top of or right
01:25:39
next to each other. You know fighting the armrest
01:25:41
and shit like this. So yeah.
01:25:42
So not only was I'm. I'm watching this.
01:25:44
I mean, it's. Basically very erotic film
01:25:47
there. Anybody has.
01:25:48
That's a great way. If anybody hasn't seen it, it's
01:25:50
very erotic. Yeah.
01:25:51
What? I I don't even know if I've seen
01:25:53
the whole. I I just know they were in
01:25:54
masks. Yeah, they're all very banging
01:25:56
on tables and. So first date along with Yeah so
01:26:00
but. It.
01:26:00
Rounded 20. That's a good thing.
01:26:02
Yeah, I realized that after. I was 15 and I snuck into that
01:26:06
with a girl I would be. Like that would be amazing.
01:26:08
I'm just holding your hand and and then should we try some of
01:26:11
this or like what's going on? I've got a mask and.
01:26:14
It's a mask, but. It's like ninja.
01:26:16
Turtles, right, Ninja Turtles? We held hands.
01:26:21
I don't know if you remember this.
01:26:22
And then I think we need to wrap the show up.
01:26:24
Okay. I'll end with this when you were
01:26:28
let's move back further than your Eyes Wide Shut fiasco.
01:26:31
Did you have more for that, by the way?
01:26:32
No okay, it was just a memory popped up in my hand.
01:26:35
Nope. Look, anybody that knows you by
01:26:38
now. What about random synopsis?
01:26:40
From the show, no. So not so.
01:26:42
Anybody that knows you from the show by now knows that that
01:26:45
story. Who knows how the hell it ended?
01:26:48
You guys could have ended up in a place just like guys.
01:26:52
Who knows? And but think about when you
01:26:56
were really young, 15, and you were, your mom dropped you off
01:27:00
at the date, not as an adult, but when you were when you were
01:27:03
a kid. So not last week, not last
01:27:05
weekend, and you're in a movie theater.
01:27:07
Did you ever have this happen? Well, look.
01:27:11
I feel like everybody's gonna be like every dude that's in
01:27:13
there's, like, listen, he's going, yeah, Jesus Christ, that
01:27:16
was like the worst anxiety ever. You didn't realize it was
01:27:19
anxiety when you were 15, right? So you're sitting in the seat
01:27:24
and you're trying to inch your hand absolutely on the armrest.
01:27:29
Just kind of throw it out there and see if she maybe takes it
01:27:31
first. Yeah, kind of like until you
01:27:33
don't even know what the fuck's happening in the movie.
01:27:35
Yeah, just paying attention to the hand can.
01:27:37
You believe that just happened? I'm like, yeah.
01:27:39
Where? Crazy.
01:27:41
It's crazy. But at the side of your eye,
01:27:43
you're only watching her. Is she going to move close?
01:27:46
She's going to grab that hand and then you kind of like shift
01:27:48
a little and the whole movie you end up hoping.
01:27:51
And then what happens is, is that somebody ends up, you know,
01:27:55
she'll grab your hand at. 2 minutes left in the movie.
01:27:58
Yeah, OK, goddamn sweet. So motherfucker, I just thought
01:28:03
that was funny. I was thinking about Jurassic
01:28:05
Park and I finally got the hand hold and it might have been cuz
01:28:09
she was scared. But either way, see, I would
01:28:11
always try that with my my second exwife.
01:28:14
Just see if she would hold my hand in the movie.
01:28:15
And then when I saw her leg, you know, go over the if you cross
01:28:19
her legs to the other side, I realized, OK, well, that's not
01:28:21
happening. So, yeah, anyway.
01:28:25
Oh man. And you know that we could do a
01:28:27
whole, a whole, probably whole show about what it was like to
01:28:30
be a teenager in the dating world and all that good stuff,
01:28:33
right? I wonder Trey, at 15 was doing,
01:28:36
you know, lifestyle clubs and. Didn't even realize it, yeah.
01:28:42
But but anyway, I think. I think that's it for tonight.
01:28:46
I think we as usual, I think we killed it.
01:28:50
Killed it. But I hope everybody enjoyed
01:28:53
that. We didn't really get anything
01:28:54
too serious. Thank you, Iowa.
01:28:56
Thank you, Iowa. Let me know, let us know, let's
01:28:59
let's let's bond. If you think that we can
01:29:03
establish a stronghold in your state, Trey and I are willing to
01:29:08
come there and do some, do some shows from there.
01:29:11
Yes, in the in the cornfields. Or you can pay us not to come
01:29:15
too. That'll work.
01:29:17
You know what are you a Hawkeye or a Cyclone?
01:29:21
If you in that game because they have it every year, would you be
01:29:24
a Hawkeye or Cyclone? As much as I hate to say it and
01:29:27
it's be a cyclone, no, it's because of the uniforms.
01:29:29
I really, I think I would be a Hawkeye.
01:29:32
Well that was my response but my my reason is because it's like
01:29:36
my professional. Team That's why I hated to say
01:29:38
it, because it's so much like the Steelers.
01:29:40
So now I know that you love our uniforms.
01:29:42
I do. They've very cool uniform.
01:29:44
Black and yellow. Black and yellow.
01:29:46
Yeah. All right, everybody.
01:29:48
We'll see you in the next show later.
01:29:49
Love you. Brian, I cannot wait.
01:30:20
For this calendar, I've already got my speedos ready.
01:30:23
Banana Hammock. There you go.
01:30:25
There you go, baby.