đź’€ Should we kill killers? Ryan and Trey go full throttle debating the death penalty.
⚾ Parents are now getting banned for yelling at umpires—finally some justice at Little League.
đźš˝ Plus: Trey regresses to toddler bathroom habits, Ryan issues another public apology, and the fellas tackle prison survival, aliens walking among us, and the great toilet paper etiquette crisis.
🛸 If you're new here, this is the first episode we didn’t delete. That says something.
Time Stamps:
00:57 – Storms, Potty Regression & Ryan’s Weekly Apology
10:07 – Listener E-Mails: Trans Athletes & Male “Karens”
18:37 – Parents Punished at Little League
32:25 – MAIN TOPIC: Death Penalty Debate
52:49 – Could We Survive Prison?
1:07:11 – Are Aliens Already Here?
1:11:20 – Self-Awareness: Dog Walkers & Toilet Paper
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Today's headlines. Fire in the hole.
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You know what? That siren means actually had a
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nap today. I'm feeling pretty good.
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Thank goodness. Tell you what that siren comes
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on and it's time to go. It's time to roll might be good
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for a night. Like this though, the initial to
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be storms in the area, there are already storms again in this
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area. Oh, it's it's crazy that it's I
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feel like once a week there, tornado threats.
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I'm tired of sleeping under my bed and scares me.
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Even my children don't do that, but they're also unaware lucky.
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Speaking of my children Trey, I'm very happy to tell you that.
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My three year old is now potty trained, very cool.
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Yeah, it took him a little longer than some of the other
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kids but we also didn't put as much effort into it because
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basically you, when you're potty training, you run around without
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pants on and if you have an accident, oh well yeah that
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didn't excite me. So we just kind of Put it off.
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It's always a work in progress. I mean, I still work on what I
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do on a daily basis to do so. Well, it's just funny because I
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think about you sometimes. Well, I think about you.
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Sometimes will hold on. Allow me to elaborate, okay.
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I don't think about you when I'm looking at my child, but I think
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about you, when I'm looking at my child who's now sitting on
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the toilet. When he pees nice.
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Right? Good habits.
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I mean so you are essentially peeing like my three-year-old
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who Learned how to be potty trained.
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Wait a minute is because I started doing this a while ago.
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So is he peeing like me or am I being like him?
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Well, he's definitely being like you, okay, but I just want you
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to be aware that it's a big, it's like of the beginner stage.
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It's a good habit. The beginner stage is be sitting
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down when you pee. There you go.
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You have regressed to beginner a taking fine, less of a mess.
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Where are we supposed to? Not talk about P now.
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P no poo, know, P. So check this out.
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We have a, not only do, we have a new listener in the, I think
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it's eastern Europe, but it's close enough, the country of
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hungry. We have a new listener.
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How about that wonder if they're constantly eating and hungry?
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I think I knew, I knew you were going to think I was going to go
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there. I knew you're going to make it
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make a joke about Hunger. But we actually have two
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listeners are hungry. So guess what?
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I know. It's not just one like accident
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there's something. So maybe there's someone pass
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the word along but I'm not done. I'm wondering.
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Go, I'm sorry going. Oh no, go ahead.
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Do you really think about these stupid Americans?
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You know talking about random stuff?
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You think they're, they're pretty cool with us, or do they
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just laugh at us? Laughing with us, are laughing
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at us. That's the question.
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That's great question. It came out of nowhere.
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Your tit. You're asking me if you think
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that our European listeners, are you think they might not be
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listening because they enjoy us but rather enjoy laughing at us,
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right? Really just brought me down but
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you know what, what if they're they're listening?
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So who cares? That's true.
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Pass the word keep listening. Tell us, tell all your friends
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about us stupid Americans. Laughs with us and click on the
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on the podcast. Left with this, I'll add it.
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Cares. As long as you're listening,
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right? That's right.
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Well, I'm not finished yet with our spreading the wealth.
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Oh yeah. Over the world, over the world.
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We have not, we have not only got a new country, but this new
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country gains us a new continent.
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Oh no kidding. We now have a listener in
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Indonesia. Indonesian, where is that?
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That's way, way, way over there over there.
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See where I'm pointing. Is it a bunch of white crazy
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people? No!
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This is actually an Asian country.
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Oh, Asia, it's a bunch of islands in the South Pacific
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Islands, huh Islands, it's like don't lie.
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I feel like I think I've like a thud like thousands of islands
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are having internet access is there.
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So we now only lack Australia. Which I don't know what's going
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on over there because you figure.
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I feel like we're like minded with a lot of those guys.
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Is it true? Is it true that when you flush
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the water goes the opposite direction in Australia?
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I've never heard that. Have you heard that?
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Well, I went to Australia forgot to check.
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You would have noticed. I would think I wasn't paying
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attention. My brother was just there in New
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Zealand have to ask him and I think he made a stop in
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Australia, just as a connecting flight, but I'm sure he had to
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use the restroom at some point. Going to New Zealand.
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Actually. Watch The Lord of the Rings for
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the first time I did. Make it all the way through.
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Oh, hold on for the first time, first time you got to be kidding
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me. You know, I mean, I've slept
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through it in the theaters but this is the first time I
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actually watched it actually enjoyed it.
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What inspired that? I didn't get to finish it so you
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can get to finish the first movie or Alters the movie.
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Got a ways to go. I was like 12 hours long.
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It is. I'm not good.
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You know. So feels about a 35-hour
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investment of time now. So yeah, I was I was Watching
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what a trend and it was actually really good.
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I was getting into it and I know I guess it's not really a
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spoiler alert because if you don't know it by now, then I
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guess I'll stand off, right? I thought thought died but I
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don't know. I didn't get to see, but maybe
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he comes back. I don't know Eddie.
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But so yeah, I'm excited to find out if he died.
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So good. Yeah, my brother did a bunch of
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those. The tours that show you what
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we're all the stuff took place and and I imagine I'd be pretty
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cool. So, very cool.
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Very cool. But the other continent that we
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need to get some how some way. Is the continent of Antarctica.
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Where's that? That's way way also, that's over
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there that we're Santa Claus. The other way.
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That's Santa Claus lives in the exact opposite of Antarctica.
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Antarctica is the South Pole. Oh, okay, the North Pole is
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where Santa lives catch. I don't know if Santa's evil
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twin brother lives in the South. That that would be a good
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Christmas dark. Christmas story to tell?
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That would be awesome. But, apparently in Antarctica,
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which as most People know is primarily ice, you have research
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facilities and you know, I think a couple hundred people there at
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a time doing different things. Just a shitload of penguins
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shaft, whatever, plenty of Todd, listen to us.
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That's why I think that's why. I mean, I mean, somebody some
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way. So if anybody that hears this,
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you can pass the word and pass the word and we can just find a
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way to get the trail, get it to somebody on Antarctica because I
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want to see it on. Map here that shows where our
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listeners are as we have an article listener and then email
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us and we'll give you a free. I don't know what an 8 by 10.
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Is that the big one picture of us?
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That's a fantastic idea. Gifts with the mountain lion in
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the episode. The one with you and the
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mountain lion. Yeah, we can do that, I'll do
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that and it autograph. Maybe a t-shirt maybe.
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Well, it's not get overboard. You see if we can afford, that's
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a lot of money right now. Yeah, but if we can get get
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somebody Will will compensate for sure.
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Yes. But so that's good.
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We're spreading slowly, but surely around the world.
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Let me go real quick into my weekly apology, which seemed I
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feel like it's just going to happen.
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So I might as well make a segment about it.
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It's a bit have like a song that plays, you know about it.
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So, last week or last episode, I should say, we talked a lot
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about the stories with the shootings that happen with
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people going on to the wrong property and getting into the
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wrong car. And I made a comment about Texas
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law stating that. As soon as Somebody went onto a
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property, they were fair game. Don't laugh.
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Don't laugh? Because I'm still, I guess
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sticking by that. I can imagine his buddy, I still
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feel like you can say I felt threatened and I think that's
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maybe where it what I was hearing from people or hearing
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from when this was discussed it. Yeah, so I can imagine somebody
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on a morning Jog and they trip fall on your property and shoot
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their ass, right. You know what, that's why Texas
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is known for You're having issues like haha, but they
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technically in the law it states.
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There has to be imminent. Threat.
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Yes. And but that's my point is that
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makes perfect sense. Is what is an imminent threat
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and can someone get away with doing it?
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Even if there isn't that threat. So what that means is Ryan that
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if you shoot somebody, make sure you shoot them in the front and
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if you don't pull them back on your property and then shoot
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them in the, what if they turn real fast?
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Like if they run and they turn real fast?
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And then I'm supes. And then make sure you shoot him
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in the front to God, this is really messed up but I wanted to
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make that apology because if I get something wrong here on the
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East and great podcast, we'd like to, we like to report the
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truth and so if I get it wrong I'm going to admit it fair
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enough. That's fair.
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How about we have some emails? Emails about what emails from
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from listeners, from we have email, would even this, I would
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even call these emails. I would even call the people
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that sent these emails. Fans actual fans, actually boil,
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listeners, loyal listeners for somebody just pissed off at the
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ship. We talked, I think the I think
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these were kind of in the middle.
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Okay, well, one of one of the young, they're both young women
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try. Oh, hello.
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Young ladies. Hello.
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One of them was really fired up about our trans and sports show.
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Oh, yeah, which is while ago, but I'm okay with that.
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And she basically tried to counter some of your research
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actually, okay, she was saying that it doesn't matter, you
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know, you had you had brought up the trans doctors research which
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stated that after about a year. That a transgender person lost
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the advantage so what I brought up was okay, take it easy.
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If a frame, you have a frame of a man, right?
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Which in most cases would be larger than the frame of a
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woman. Greg, most cases.
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Yes. So, if you take the muscle tone
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of a woman and put it onto the frame of a man, Wouldn't that
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put them at a disadvantage because it's less muscle tone to
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move a bigger frame? I would think that.
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Would be a disadvantage. Yeah.
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But you're forgetting the first part of it, which is the, the
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hormone therapy for a year. So what this, what this listener
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is saying, is that the muscle, the, the advantage physically
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doesn't go away to where it wouldn't be a disadvantage.
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Well, didn't you say that? In fact, the person that you
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referenced actually said they felt a difference with their
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Whole tone in that year know I could have swore that unless I
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was no, I said that, the iris, I apologize.
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One of my apologies was that for Leah, Thomas, who was that
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swimmer at pain that she did have to wait a year.
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The anybody can claim that they feel certain way but it's
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whether I mean, you know what I mean?
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Like she could have said, yeah, I didn't feel as strong but she
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was, I mean, she she went from 500 something in the country to
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First in a dominant fashion over the women, there's something
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there now again, so do you look at the fact that when she was
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five hundredths in the, as a man, right, with less muscle
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tone because she was taking the hormones, I'm talking about
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before the hormone before, the homeowners should hormone.
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She was Homo before the hormones, I'm leaving that
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before hormones. She was dead last.
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I will instead last, but she was, she was not as well, but
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not good. Gotcha.
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She's people probably looked and said you should probably try
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something other than swimming. Well, I'm going to say this
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listeners full of shit. Okay.
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So all right, I like it. Because what's interesting about
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that is that the same listener at the end of the email said, I
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don't care about you know what? Who cares.
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Is about the trans stuff, okay? What I want to know is how trans
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up in these fucked-up situations every single time with a woman.
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So it was, she referring to my marriage is over, she referring
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to the dating app. You know I'm I think maybe the
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dating apps but let's just for fun say that she's just all of
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it. Gotcha I think that's kind of
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funny. It's almost like she was firing
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back at you without knowing she was going to need to fire back
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at you. Gotcha.
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Yeah. But yeah.
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So that I thought it was an interesting email.
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I'll tell her Like to know how I end up in this fucked-up
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situation. Well, we like to know and we're
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going to that's why we're addressing it.
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That's why we're going to continue to and analyze it.
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I mean when you and I talked about your situation and your
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stories, it's not just for entertainment.
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Yes. We like to entertain but I
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believe that it's more. So about its therapeutic.
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We're trying to correct, whatever issues that you have.
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Why need a couch on my side? You need a couch.
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Maybe I should, I should get the couch.
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I got the tissues here, so I'm good there, but I need a cow.
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Mm. Relax, those tissues have been
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there for with the little lion on the side.
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So it makes me. Those are my children's there
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call them whoopsie wipes. Yeah, yeah.
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So if you have a whoopsie then what you're covered tray they're
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very soft on my nose to that's the second.
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The second email we received was so this listener was not quite
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as detailed as the first listener and all she had to say
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was the male Karen is Chad. Oh okay.
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So, not Richard, not Richard. And I'm not sure how I feel
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about that. I feel like Richard was kind of
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spot on right, what she was, she against Richard altogether or
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she just thought, Chad, no sugar.
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No, no. She thought that the Chad was
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the actual like that. It had been made official, like
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Karen had been made, quote, unquote, official gotcha.
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And so, to her credit, this listeners credit.
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She did come back later. And like she, it's like she left
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the email and then researched it and then came back.
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Okay? And said, okay, Turns out that
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I, you know, it's not official per se because then I went and
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Googled it. There's like all these arguments
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like, Chad's, not official like you shut up.
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It could be this. It could be, there's legit
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arguments on line arguments about how the male Karen.
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So I'm going to, I'm going to propose that we stick with
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Richard. Is this before our show?
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Or I think I showed before show car show might have sparked.
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Our did the debate, I like it. And that's what we try to do.
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Here is get people talking tray. That's all we wanted.
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That's all we want to do is talk, talk, pink talk.
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Talk talk it out. Don't use love, don't use
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violence. Yeah, but she may think that we
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should stay with Char, go with Chad but I'm going to, I'm going
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to propose. We stay with Richard and Chad,
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checking be a backup. I like, Chad, but just tell her
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to get her own damn podcast. She can decide what her milk
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here and can be. Well she is one of our most
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devoted listeners Soho. She still is turned you
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basically just told her so I don't need to tell him.
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No, she's great. So moving right along through
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all of these topics, I mean, I had an agenda tonight, my man
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have an agenda, I have an agenda agenda in addition, I mean I'm
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this is basically a show so far that's patting us on the back,
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right? We're inspiring.
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We've got emails, new listeners, all over the world.
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I feel like it one day we were going to have a Make-a-Wish kid
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on the show because we're growing.
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So but yeah, I mean that's that's that would be a really
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good goal, that's where we need to be.
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And so, After our today is a we're bringing up the trans
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issue a lot, but apparently that's something that we might
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need to readdress because I was at a bar after a round of golf
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at surprising with. It was it was the middle of the
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day which doesn't make it look any better.
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So they don't exist. It was after run of golf and
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there were four of us. And all three of the other
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gentleman have had have listened to the podcast.
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Very cool, and they just started going off on each other.
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About trans and sports and then I ran in Trans in general and
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the passion there was was almost scary.
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Like, I couldn't even get a word, I bet it was a fun
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discussion. It was Anna, but I started kind
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of, you know, and I need to not do this maybe but I started
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cringing there weren't that many people in this place because it
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was middle of the day and yeah bar.
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But there are a couple people I swear that kind of looked up
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like he did. Was that he did?
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They that? Yeah it was it got there but at
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the end of it, No, too fast forward to the end of it.
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It everybody seemed to be happy that we had the conversation.
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It was almost like, wow, we needed to have this and I
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understand you better than I did before because there's no
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tearful hugs, it wasn't that that far had on the butt but a
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good game well that we do that anyway.
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So it was just it was neat to see exactly what we want.
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Which is people talking on all sides and I really was all
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sides. I mean I had two extremes and
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One in the middle that I think, was just trying to like fire
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everybody. Yeah.
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Stir the pot a little bit about a little bit and it was great.
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I just wanted to let you know that our our wisdom is being
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passed on and it's spreading Would you call them?
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I'm gonna call it wisdom, but you can label it whatever you
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choose. Okay?
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Not you. The list of not me.
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So. I have a news story for you.
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Okay. And I debated bring it up
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because it seems so stupid but then I said if you like that
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that fits our show we likely and and it it's ironically we you've
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mentioned before on the show that when we first started doing
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this, we were going to talk more sports, right?
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And ironically this is the first story we really talked about,
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right? I guess I guess Anthony Bass.
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Is a picture for, you know, we talked about that a little bit
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on the airplane, with his wife in the popcorn.
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Yasko. Yeah.
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But, that's not really a sport. That wasn't a sports though, so
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we talked about trans and sports.
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Oh, that's true. But it's more about trans.
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This is this is about sports, I think.
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Okay, apparently in New Jersey, hope we have some listeners
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there. Um, in New Jersey, there is a
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the Little League there. Apparently, the league came down
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on some parents that were in the stands.
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That confronted the Umpire and, like, went overboard.
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Apparently. And I don't know exactly.
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I didn't see, like, a fill any film, but apparently, they
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really like this umpire have it which, you know, in little
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league is always the umpires faults rights, nothing.
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Absolute that the kid sucks and strike out the kids, an idiot.
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But yeah, right. And so the league came down on
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the on the, on the parents and I think it was both of them and
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he's they said you are not allowed to come back to again a
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league game. I don't know how they're going
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to monitor this, but I don't care.
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I'm gonna pretend they have like undercover and checking IDs at
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the, the gate, at the little league.
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So you're not allowed to come back until you voluntarily
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umpire, Three Little League games yourself.
00:20:24
It's a great idea. I don't know what happened well
00:20:29
but I it just brings up the the visual of like moms or
00:20:35
grandmother's or dads that just don't know what their I mean I
00:20:39
don't I don't know how that's going to go because what if you
00:20:40
don't know the sport well enough and whatever but the idea was
00:20:44
was there and you've heard this on multiple platforms side.
00:20:48
It's legit. And part of the story was that
00:20:50
they had two empires quit because of this.
00:20:53
Oh and so I think that's where they decided you.
00:20:57
Now, these umpires in most cases maybe get a few bucks a game.
00:21:00
You know, it's just yeah their kids in some instances like
00:21:03
literally kids out there umpiring just to help out and so
00:21:07
you have these grown-ass men that are armchair sure, you
00:21:11
know, didn't make it in, you know, high school.
00:21:14
But they know everything and anything about the sport.
00:21:17
So, they're giving it to him. So, I, this is an awesome idea.
00:21:22
I've wonder if they make him go through some sort of a quick
00:21:25
training course on how to apply wood.
00:21:27
Just going to go out. There we go Mount there.
00:21:29
Well you know kids Suffer Well they don't have a literally
00:21:32
eight-year-olds, really do, they suffer you know in most cases
00:21:35
the running to the wrong damn base.
00:21:36
Anyway yeah it's like the second baseman's mom.
00:21:39
He's like, hey Mom like yeah that me.
00:21:41
You got the outfielder out there.
00:21:42
Chasing butterflies. I mean, is it really going to
00:21:44
suffer? No, but I think it would make
00:21:46
them. At least think about it before
00:21:48
they hand it to, you know, this 15 year old, that's behind the
00:21:51
plate. You know, don't be an asshole.
00:21:53
Well, so you know it's either the kid, excuse me?
00:21:56
The Fifteen-year-old behind the plate.
00:21:58
Or if you're seeing these dicks, who these guys that are out
00:22:02
there and they're old, and I guess they act like they're
00:22:05
massager League umpires. I mean, they're when they're
00:22:07
doing their strike calls, you know, they're waiting for that.
00:22:09
Call up like absolutely. And they're just, yeah, they're
00:22:12
they're, you know, don't even look at me that way, kid or, I
00:22:15
mean, they're just way too serious and they're, you know,
00:22:17
getting like 12 bucks a game. Yeah, those guys are there to.
00:22:20
Those are fun. Man, I remember there was a,
00:22:23
there was an Umpire back in the day that we used to bet, and it
00:22:26
was A quarter, you know, and we never paid up but it was fun.
00:22:29
We decide. Okay, I think this kid is going
00:22:32
to get a base. Hit umpire would be like, I
00:22:35
think he's going to strike out or I think he's gonna pop out or
00:22:38
something like that, was fun. So I was a catcher back in the
00:22:41
day. So we joke about what's going to
00:22:43
happen and stuff like that, so we it was a lot of fun.
00:22:45
Yeah, that's fun. There's a lot of cool.
00:22:47
Umpires out there too. So yeah, we hear.
00:22:50
It's anyway, we're not bashing umpires.
00:22:52
It's not like you're either a way way, way way.
00:22:54
There's a lot of idiot. Umpires out there too.
00:22:56
So Fashion some umph. I meant we're not bashing all
00:22:59
Empire, not a person General. But yes, there were some idiots
00:23:02
out there that made some dumbass calls, but anyway and mostly and
00:23:06
I would have been one of the ones I was like to pin.
00:23:08
You've built you've bottled this.
00:23:10
Well on one time, I almost did get thrown out of the game.
00:23:13
I was behind home plate because my brother was in a championship
00:23:16
game, and this umpire was allowing the other team to lean
00:23:19
into into balls to get hit on purpose, just to get Runners on.
00:23:23
It's a little league game. I'm like, this is stupid.
00:23:25
These kids are going to get hurt.
00:23:27
You going to let them lean into these pitches to get her to get
00:23:30
hit so they can get on base. It was ridiculous.
00:23:32
There were probably coach to do that.
00:23:33
Absolutely. And that's what was ridiculous.
00:23:35
Umpire wouldn't step in and say, hey, okay this is this
00:23:38
optionally intentional. So was there a chance that you
00:23:41
were wrong? Absolutely.
00:23:43
But I don't care. I'm just saying, what if the
00:23:46
kids are, like, screaming in pain and they didn't want to
00:23:48
lean into the pitch paint guys, and it is weird that I was so
00:23:52
fired up and passionate, but if I was on the field, I was like,
00:23:54
you know, I didn't like it's okay, you know, Easy, when
00:23:57
you're behind the cage because you feel like it's your right to
00:24:01
stand up for right, you know, my brother and his team and Justice
00:24:05
right in the little in a little league game.
00:24:07
So, yeah, I used to get fired up with my brother's games, but you
00:24:10
know, when I was on the field I was just like, it's all fun and
00:24:13
games. So yeah, I don't know if this is
00:24:16
the same for you, but I'm a little frustrated that I got
00:24:18
worse. The older, I get baseball it.
00:24:21
Burned, in general, in life, definitely with relay should be
00:24:26
a great. Can little kid.
00:24:28
And yeah, I wonder, would you like a?
00:24:32
This is how I picture you. Now that you said that, so your,
00:24:35
let's visualize this. You're in fifth grade, you're
00:24:37
playing spin the bottle at the dance.
00:24:40
You're the, you're the stud that all the girls want to land.
00:24:44
They wanted to land bleach blond hair at the temples probably
00:24:47
little bleach tips. Little Spike, I walked around
00:24:50
like my she knew you were you were at you probably had all the
00:24:52
ladies and slowly but surely as the years went on your Now
00:24:57
sitting here with two divorces. A bunch of failed.
00:25:01
Meetups. Yeah, I'm giving you a hard time
00:25:05
because I love you. But yeah.
00:25:06
What the other way? I'll me there.
00:25:08
Real quick. What were you really a cool kid?
00:25:11
I actually was I was to my horn. I was I was actually good in
00:25:14
sports and stuff like that. No.
00:25:15
But it was just in general. Were you like the I walked
00:25:18
around like, yeah, he thought chest out everything.
00:25:21
And so and they just graduated seem to get slower and weaker
00:25:25
and it Just puberty hit, and that really took a toll on me.
00:25:29
And so, yeah, that was wasn't fun times.
00:25:32
So, But on the flip side, I think this whole idea in New
00:25:36
Jersey with the umpires, you know, I could just imagine the
00:25:40
Grandma coming out first game. You know, she's in town for the
00:25:43
weekend. See little Jimmy play.
00:25:45
She has no idea what the hell is going on.
00:25:47
And yet she starts screaming at this umpire.
00:25:49
She's got to stay in town right now, is she's not allowed to
00:25:52
ever come by ever. Come back.
00:25:53
So, okay, nice. She may say f it and say, I
00:25:56
don't wanna come back anyway, you know, so imagine a little
00:25:59
ol, this the The Stereotype of a little old grandma behind the
00:26:02
plate with the huge. Judge chest protector.
00:26:05
Yeah. And the helmet and she's like
00:26:07
holding onto a walker ball comes in.
00:26:11
Yeah the ball comes in and she's like diving gravity or she's in
00:26:14
the field and she's with a little walking that line drive
00:26:17
right at the middle hits her walker out from underneath her
00:26:19
and she falls. That would be great or how are
00:26:23
you got the weird Uncle sitting out there with a flask you know
00:26:28
taking a few few drinks have a scotch out there you know I give
00:26:32
a shit so the drunk We'll never as Scotch, the factory fight.
00:26:35
That's sophisticated people. What would he be drinking them
00:26:38
in a flowery like, a really cheap bourbon a cheap bourbon.
00:26:40
Okay. So you got the drunk uncle cheap
00:26:43
bourbon out there in the field. Not giving a shit.
00:26:47
You know, what would be fun to see?
00:26:50
Yeah, this this story has brought up a lot of potentials,
00:26:56
now, let out. Oh actually a good follow-up to
00:26:59
that is. How about the jerk parents?
00:27:03
At are constantly giving the coaches shit, you know, you get
00:27:07
these volunteer coaches on their, you know, they're they're
00:27:09
just out there trying to help out because nobody else wanted
00:27:12
to volunteer to help these kids, take them to practice, get them
00:27:16
ready for these games and stuff like that.
00:27:17
Make sure they can fill the whole lineup.
00:27:20
Yeah, you have some asshole dad over there pissed off because
00:27:24
his eight year olds over there, picking his nose, instead of
00:27:26
ready for a ground ball, you know?
00:27:29
And that's the coach's fault. No.
00:27:30
So I think if a parent Gripes that a coach, they should have
00:27:35
to coach the team for one game. So yeah.
00:27:39
And again though, I mean like from our standpoint, I agree
00:27:43
from us right here. My issue with it though is the
00:27:46
kids like they're all the sudden they're getting and Coach.
00:27:49
That's not mean capable of coaching.
00:27:54
You know, more and more than likely.
00:27:56
I'll tell you a funny story. Okay, I'll try to make it fast.
00:27:59
Okay, which doesn't happen. You know, my dad, I do my dad
00:28:03
coached t' my little league. Okay.
00:28:06
Most of most of until I quit. What was the team name?
00:28:10
Like the little? I had a couple.
00:28:11
No, no, no, we were, I think we're the A's and then we were,
00:28:14
the Royals were like the shitty teams now, but back then I think
00:28:17
they were all good. The A's and somebody Angels, but
00:28:22
but in 8th grade, I decided I was tired of getting hit by
00:28:25
every pitch. It seemed like I had a magnet on
00:28:27
me, and I was just like, this isn't fun.
00:28:28
Yeah, I can, I can say that. Right.
00:28:31
But my dad coached and and we A day, a young man whose father
00:28:37
liked to sit and critique, okay? If you will and what it nicely?
00:28:42
Let me ask you this and I starting to rub your dad
00:28:44
actually was a very good baseball player.
00:28:46
Good, any other semi pro or he played at the graph.
00:28:49
It, you know. Okay, got you and then I think
00:28:52
he had a dirt bike accident. Something whose knees that the
00:28:57
prevented him from going further, but needless to say, he
00:28:59
was a good player who so ho good ballplayer.
00:29:01
He knew I'm sick game. So this He's a great.
00:29:04
He was a great coach and probably almost to a fault when
00:29:07
you're dealing with sixth graders.
00:29:08
Yeah, right. Yeah, but he, this was the type
00:29:10
of, man, that knew the game is what I'm trying to set up.
00:29:12
He knows the game for sure. Absolutely, and so.
00:29:15
So this other guy's dad, ironically, it was Case, in case
00:29:19
the sun's listening, the other, the other dad didn't look like
00:29:22
he was a college athlete, if that makes sense, that makes
00:29:26
sense. And and so, the dad would just
00:29:28
was all over it. And so this kid pitched, okay?
00:29:33
And it was to the point one game, where the kid walked,
00:29:35
like, five people in our five batters in a row and I mean, it
00:29:39
was just, obviously, he look, this isn't no control.
00:29:41
I mean, and it was, it's not fair to the rest of the team.
00:29:44
And you know, you at that age you hate to pull out somebody
00:29:47
but Same time, everybody in the we're all getting antsy out
00:29:50
there grinding, okay, do something.
00:29:52
Yeah and the dad went up and said this is ridiculous.
00:29:54
He was just getting his Groove really like whatever and he
00:29:57
pulled the kid from the game, which embarrassed the kid and
00:30:02
they land, they quit. He said it, we're out of here.
00:30:04
We no longer play for this team. Interesting quit got a little
00:30:08
Burger but hurt ya. Quit on his quit on his team
00:30:11
because of his dad. Yeah, and the next week was like
00:30:15
the playoffs 7th, grade play. Ops, and the kid walks up, like
00:30:20
nothing had happened. And my dad said, what are you
00:30:24
doing here? You quit on your team last week,
00:30:26
nice. And the kids said, well, no, I
00:30:29
didn't I didn't really want to quit and, you know, whatever the
00:30:32
data wasn't he dad already gone to the bleachers.
00:30:34
I mean, obviously avoiding my dad.
00:30:36
My dad said I'm sorry, but this is, you know, you couldn't your
00:30:40
team and I don't, we don't you're not going to play today.
00:30:43
Nice. Nice.
00:30:44
And the kid walks over to his to his Add and you know, all of a
00:30:49
sudden Hell broke loose. The dad lost it and started
00:30:52
yelling and freaked out on my dad and whatever.
00:30:56
So this Dad actually had a business that was a food
00:31:00
business. Okay, we used to frequent and my
00:31:03
dad immediately was like, never again you know and so became
00:31:06
this big Feud over baseball and it's because of an over overly,
00:31:13
what's the word I'm looking for me?
00:31:14
Who is it? Was because of some sort of
00:31:16
father that That didn't know, didn't know what the limit
00:31:19
didn't know, didn't know where the line was.
00:31:22
So I was my little story. I just about, you know, ties
00:31:24
into here. So parents are now having to
00:31:26
umpire games, you think they could have to coach and then and
00:31:31
I think it made me think of that and how the bottom line is that
00:31:36
funny or not. These stories are about like
00:31:38
kids, well, somebody's about the kid out there having fun at The
00:31:41
Guild wakes up on a Saturday, is like I got a game today and
00:31:43
they're all this drama ensues, you know?
00:31:46
And they probably have no idea. What's going on, you know?
00:31:48
But when your parents acting like an idiot, well, well really
00:31:53
suffers. See, I thought that was
00:31:56
interesting. Good news story from up in New
00:31:58
Jersey, that is interesting. I'm curious to see how that
00:32:00
goes. That's a fun deal.
00:32:02
Yeah. It's going to be something that
00:32:04
that's ongoing like each week, just like a new parent and
00:32:07
having the bar becomes a big thing.
00:32:09
I love hope they follow up on this because yeah, I'm curious
00:32:12
to see if this works out, but as serious as we've been so far
00:32:17
about, what about everything, I'm excited, I'm excited about
00:32:21
this show because I think that I think we should talk about a
00:32:26
topic tonight. That you and I both have found
00:32:30
out that we disagree on and I'm excited to talk about it for
00:32:36
that reason. I think that our listeners
00:32:38
deserve a little bit of back and forth and it's a topic that I
00:32:42
think isn't quite as prominent today as it might have been you
00:32:47
know, in the 20-30 years ago, I never think I don't he don't
00:32:50
hear about it much today unless you look for in my opinion cause
00:32:53
there's so many other polarizing issues.
00:32:55
Right? So This, this is the topic of
00:33:00
capital punishment. Okay.
00:33:02
IE the death penalty. I'm giving our listeners a
00:33:06
moment ago. Wow.
00:33:10
So the death penalty. Let's just go right off off hand
00:33:15
and you can you can lead in. I want you to talk because I've
00:33:17
been I've been battling as usual.
00:33:20
So I'll let you take over here and and tell me what your
00:33:23
thought is on the death penalty as a whole.
00:33:27
So at one point Ryan, I actually wanted to become a police
00:33:31
officer and I thought that would be a cool prestigious thing to
00:33:36
do. Yeah.
00:33:37
And so I went back to school to get my criminal justice degree,
00:33:41
and this topic actually came up in a debate.
00:33:44
And, you know, my professor said there and asked us, which one do
00:33:48
you? I guess the whole story brought
00:33:50
up was for against the death penalty and I think actually, at
00:33:54
the time I was very much for the death penalty Interesting.
00:33:58
And so he brought up which one do you think is more expensive?
00:34:04
And of course everybody was it's got to be a few life in prison,
00:34:09
right? But at the time you know he
00:34:12
brought up the fact that there's so many other factors that come
00:34:15
into play around. The death penalty that actually
00:34:18
makes it more expensive for to put somebody to death.
00:34:23
So is that that's more tax money, that's more money on the
00:34:27
state, this that the other. So let me get the start
00:34:30
thinking, is it really worth putting someone to death?
00:34:34
What does it really gain? Obviously, whatever crime.
00:34:37
They commit, the victim. It's not going to bring them.
00:34:42
It's not going to make them whole again.
00:34:43
I guess the best way to put it because if you lose a loved one
00:34:47
because of a heinous act, does that person being put to death.
00:34:53
That's not going to bring them back.
00:34:55
So it made me start thinking from a personal level, I would
00:35:00
think life in prison would be worse on somebody just thinking.
00:35:06
I wouldn't want to be in a little bitty sale for the rest
00:35:08
of my life. I would think that would be more
00:35:10
torturous to me. So, I think it would be more of
00:35:15
a punishment myself to make them live out their life in prison.
00:35:20
I don't think the conditions are as, as nice.
00:35:24
I don't know as welcoming as people may think it is.
00:35:26
You know, you get a meal, you get a bed, you get a roof that's
00:35:28
nicer than death. Well and it's nice to death but
00:35:31
part of me thinks that putting someone to death is an easy out,
00:35:35
you know. It's a they don't really get to
00:35:39
think about it. They don't really get to suffer
00:35:42
in silence and to their own thoughts and for the rest of
00:35:46
their life, they get put to death, they don't have to worry
00:35:49
about it anymore. They're done, you know?
00:35:51
So I don't know. If it's more of a moral argument
00:35:55
for me, as far as we shouldn't, have the right to put somebody
00:35:59
to death. I think it's more of a
00:36:01
punishment on my my my thought I think it's more of a punishment
00:36:05
of somebody to make them live out the rest of her life in a
00:36:07
Cell. You know with crazy-ass inmates
00:36:11
that you don't know from day to day whether or not somebody's
00:36:14
going to come and attack you some you know, whatever the case
00:36:17
may be is in prison. So that's why I'm very much
00:36:21
against the death penalty. I More punishing to make
00:36:24
somebody live the rest of Life out in prison.
00:36:26
So so you've brought up the fiscal argument is one and the
00:36:33
other argument is that you think it's more of a punishment to to
00:36:37
have to live out the life. Oh, before you go any further?
00:36:40
What is fiscal mean you can't use these big words on me money.
00:36:44
One of my money they already the money issue.
00:36:47
Okay? Gotcha.
00:36:47
Show me the money. Got you the financial issue, the
00:36:50
yeah. So that would that was brought
00:36:51
to my attention, which Each so, yeah, I mean, right off the bat,
00:36:56
you know, my instinct is to go, well, that's bullshit about the
00:37:00
money that it would be more expensive to to actually, you
00:37:05
know, put somebody down if you will like a dog right then to
00:37:11
the basically house them and feed them for the rest of their
00:37:13
lives. And again, that's something that
00:37:15
I need to look into. If you're telling me that
00:37:17
there's some some research to back that, but you've brought
00:37:19
that you brought the fiscal part up and you brought up the the
00:37:23
You think it's more of a punishment.
00:37:25
So if we want to stay in the gray, you could say, all right,
00:37:27
well you can live, you know, in prison for 5 to 10 years and
00:37:31
then you get put down. So you can have a little bit of
00:37:33
that horrible life that you're talking about and then you're
00:37:35
out of here. But my issue is that, it's not
00:37:39
always about that person. What I mean by that is that
00:37:45
You're talking about somebody that could somehow get out on
00:37:47
parole somehow Escape. Somehow if this person is alive
00:37:53
in the world in my opinion. Again, if it's legit, I mean, if
00:37:59
it's been something that's obvious thing and I know that
00:38:02
that's a whole different argument is whether or not
00:38:06
mistakes have been made in the past, but if it's, if it's known
00:38:10
and this, you know, so half of these guys are most immoral all
00:38:14
over guys. Or are you know, raising their
00:38:17
hand going? Yeah, I did it.
00:38:19
So, if it's admission, especially, but if it's
00:38:22
something that's been proven in court, it's better that these
00:38:24
people are gone because they're immediately a threat to somebody
00:38:30
else. If they're ever outside of the
00:38:32
confines of the jail, the prison all of a sudden something
00:38:37
happens. And they do spend 20 years there
00:38:39
and they get out on parole, or again, heaven forbid.
00:38:42
There's some sort of Escape, which happens, I mean it, I know
00:38:44
it's Plots. But I, you know, I was in sixth
00:38:47
grade at a, like a site, like a summer camp, and we had to go
00:38:51
and get it, you know, hunker down in the basement because
00:38:54
there was an ex-con that had just escaped from the prison
00:38:56
down the road. No kidding.
00:38:58
Yeah, I was crazy. We go through the woods back to
00:39:00
the cab Sleek race. Wow!
00:39:02
And, you know, they had helicopters and it was in first.
00:39:05
I don't know why they had kids summer camp.
00:39:07
A mile away from me to prison, major State Prison.
00:39:10
Wow. But, but I'm just saying it
00:39:12
happens and so my My concern is that somebody else somebody
00:39:17
else's life would be taken because we didn't take this
00:39:20
person's life to me. If you're willing to take
00:39:22
somebody else's life, then you just don't need to be here.
00:39:26
It's about not thinning the herd if you will, but it's about in
00:39:30
mind. These are all my opinions, don't
00:39:32
get me wrong, this is not none of this as fact, but my opinion
00:39:36
is that if somebody does something that atrocious, then
00:39:40
they don't need to be here, just get rid of them and it makes it
00:39:43
easier on everybody. The other issue is not just if
00:39:47
we're talking about the death penalty for people that have
00:39:49
killed. Are there any other crimes that
00:39:51
you think the death penalty should be talked about?
00:39:55
With, because to me, if you molest a child, you should be
00:39:58
done. Yes.
00:39:59
Okay. So there's no argument through
00:40:01
the crime. Actually changes your mindset a
00:40:03
little bit. No, I'm just saying, I think, in
00:40:06
all honesty, I think anybody that's a child predator.
00:40:11
Should have the absolute worst things done to them.
00:40:14
Now, now just chain them up and let people, so be them daily.
00:40:18
I especially want them to stay in prison because the fact that
00:40:21
in prison child molesters are actually tortured and they're
00:40:25
actually be talking here. That, yeah.
00:40:27
So, you know what's a guarantee? I mean, but I'd rather them have
00:40:32
a brutally beaten to death in prison by some Burly inmate, as
00:40:40
opposed to just getting a shot and falling asleep and not
00:40:44
waking up. You know, I want maybe add a
00:40:47
little tortured. I want their last moments to be
00:40:50
absolutely devastated. I get what you're so, I get what
00:40:53
you're saying about you. My issue is that again, you're
00:40:55
making it about this guy right versus the rest of the people,
00:40:59
that could potentially be another victim, right?
00:41:04
Of this person's behavior and I think that's where I'm at.
00:41:08
As I'm sitting here going just, let's not even, not even mess
00:41:11
with this. You've done this, you're out of
00:41:13
here. But also, you do this, you're
00:41:16
gone. And, I mean, it come comes down
00:41:19
to also the these, these child molesters.
00:41:22
I mean, if they get, they get the death penalty or whatever.
00:41:27
Unfortunately, these kids that doesn't bring them Justice, it
00:41:31
doesn't bring the Justice parent.
00:41:32
So so what is what is putting that person to death do?
00:41:38
Then I distract you. Sorry, I wish.
00:41:40
No, I was checking my dad. I miss say something.
00:41:42
No, no, no, no. Okay, okay.
00:41:43
Just disagreeing. I'm disagree.
00:41:45
Okay, so I guess gentleman. I shook my head a tray and it
00:41:48
got them all because honestly it's not going to bring It's not
00:41:54
going to bring their life back to normal, they're always going
00:41:56
to have that. Refocus that moment.
00:41:58
So I'm waiting for you. I'm really working on my
00:42:04
interrupting. Oh, I'm waiting my hand.
00:42:08
I put my hands into my leg away. You reactors?
00:42:10
Like I said something stupid. So no reason.
00:42:12
Oh stop, oh not so try. You never say anything stupid.
00:42:15
Anyway, so my I guess. My retort is that right?
00:42:20
Ruth, torqued. How do you spell that?
00:42:23
I love you say, that's pretty funny.
00:42:25
I don't even know. So my response to that is is
00:42:29
that it might Allow mean think about it.
00:42:34
But yourself in a situation of a family member, say somebody and
00:42:38
I don't mean to be graphic, somebody kills your mom or your
00:42:43
cousin or whoever it's close to you me.
00:42:50
There has to be a little bit and I know on my in there is and I
00:42:53
think that maybe that's something I need to talk about
00:42:56
with a therapist. But for me, it's, I want
00:42:59
something to happen. I want that person eliminated.
00:43:03
I want them gone. I want, I don't want anybody to
00:43:05
go through this, and there is a little bit of closure.
00:43:08
It's not about bringing the person back, that's stupid.
00:43:10
No one, no one's asking for that, but I do hear a lot of
00:43:14
family members say, I feel better because I know that.
00:43:17
So, and so, who was the victim here?
00:43:20
Knows that. Now this person is not going to
00:43:22
do it again for sure, you know, life in prison.
00:43:26
Again, things happen, you know, there's a parole which is messed
00:43:29
up. And there's, there's ways to not
00:43:32
be there for the life sentence that you get.
00:43:34
And so like I said, I think then the discussion then comes to is
00:43:39
it life without parole without the possibility of parole that
00:43:42
kind of suggestion, you know, or what kind of sentence is it
00:43:45
because you here on on these Court shows or whatever, On the
00:43:50
news were they got three 300 years per count?
00:43:54
It's like, well obviously that means there is life in prison
00:43:56
but I guess there's different things that life and what?
00:44:01
And I get 200 different loopholes that if you say life
00:44:03
in prison as to post, as opposed to 10 years per count, so it
00:44:08
adds up to 100 years in prison. Well, you know, obviously that's
00:44:11
life in prison. So maybe we need to look into
00:44:14
the Lego, the lingo. What is life in prison since he
00:44:17
says somebody has 3 life sentences?
00:44:19
I'm like, Really? What does that even mean?
00:44:22
Right? Just come on.
00:44:23
That means they're not getting out.
00:44:25
So there's that, they're not supposed to get not mistaken.
00:44:26
That's known you. No possibility of parole.
00:44:29
I'm telling you, the, even when they say that there are
00:44:32
loopholes and 40 years down the road things happen, and it just,
00:44:36
you just, I don't know. I just feel like why feed these
00:44:40
people and in some of them II get it, some of them have bad
00:44:44
times and prison. And I imagine every day is not,
00:44:47
you know, roses and butterflies but they're also Days, will you
00:44:50
only watch TV? They eat food, they work out in
00:44:53
the gym, they go play basketball.
00:44:54
I mean, they, they do all these things at half.
00:44:56
The people that are living on the streets, which they wish
00:44:58
they had, you know, man. And think about it that way.
00:45:01
I mean, you talk about, you know, a couple shows, go, you
00:45:03
talked a lot about the homeless and how, you know, on our on our
00:45:08
wonderfully administered, socialism versus capitalism
00:45:13
discussion. And and I there's probably
00:45:16
homeless, guys are like, man. If I can be fed every day, if I
00:45:19
could go, Access to a gym. And that's what I think.
00:45:23
And I know that you're talking about him being taken in the
00:45:26
middle of the night and, you know, stuff done to him and and
00:45:31
I get that but at the same time I mean he's a criminal and he's
00:45:35
like all right, whatever that happened.
00:45:36
That sucks. But eat next day wakes up and
00:45:38
eats a nice breakfast and goes and works out.
00:45:40
Well, you say nice, but well this stuff it's better than
00:45:43
nothing is better than nothing. Yeah, but I don't know.
00:45:47
I'm just saying wait and who's and you talked about Money.
00:45:51
And again, that's where we need. We probably need to do a little
00:45:53
more research and readdress it. But in my opinion I just can't
00:45:57
imagine. And you've told me some some
00:45:59
numbers that that I'm surprised by but I'm not doubting you on
00:46:03
your research. That it is more expensive to
00:46:05
actually go through the court proceedings for the something,
00:46:10
where their goal is the death penalty because it takes more
00:46:13
time, it takes more in-depth investigation.
00:46:17
Well etcetera, Etc. So from what I've read and what
00:46:23
I learned in most of the cost comes from, obviously the trial,
00:46:28
they want to make sure they're getting a right, because they
00:46:30
want to ensure that if the death penalty is on the table, they
00:46:34
obviously want to make sure that they're not putting an innocent
00:46:38
man to death based on loopholes based on, you know, wrong
00:46:41
evidence. Whatever the case may be is
00:46:43
which I think they should do on every trial, regardless of the
00:46:46
penalty. But anyway, but it's, we've got
00:46:48
to find a way to make it faster. It's ridiculous but but we want
00:46:51
to make sure we get it right too.
00:46:53
And so obviously if you don't have a recording where you're
00:46:57
seeing somebody commits the crime right there in front of
00:46:59
you, there's always going to be reasonable but it shouldn't take
00:47:02
ten years either, right? Okay, but that's my argument and
00:47:06
I don't know specifically and that's something I probably
00:47:08
should have looked up before the show but there are appeal
00:47:11
processes for people that are send us to the death penalty and
00:47:14
that goes that can go on for years.
00:47:17
So maybe those need to be addressed and that made.
00:47:19
We need to looked into but if we can't get it right?
00:47:22
And a couple of years at least then something's wrong, but my
00:47:26
opinion, but they have the right to appeal it and there's I want
00:47:29
to say there's I want to say there's like 10 appeals that
00:47:33
they can do, all that needs to be fed over so many years.
00:47:36
So you're thinking okay all the appeal processes that they're
00:47:39
allowed, all the money that accumulates from that the lawyer
00:47:42
fees, all that kind of good stuff.
00:47:44
And so you're thinking they're constantly going through these
00:47:47
trials over a ten-year span. However, long, it is that just
00:47:51
adds up and so the money spent for that, it's overwhelmingly.
00:47:57
I should say that because I need to find a, this the facts, but
00:48:01
it's actually, it is a more expensive than just a what year
00:48:04
what you found is that you are claiming it's more expense, its
00:48:07
Millions, it's millions and which doesn't make any still
00:48:10
doesn't make sense to me because the actual the actual putting to
00:48:14
death is nothing. When you also need to make sure
00:48:17
that the person is in this is weird.
00:48:19
Amy. You have to make sure the person
00:48:20
is healthy enough to be put to death.
00:48:23
And so if the person is sick, if the person is dying.
00:48:26
Whoa, whoa! Whoa, you let them know that.
00:48:28
No, yeah, tell me about this. So, yeah, the person has to be
00:48:31
healthy enough to be put to death.
00:48:32
So, for whatever reason, let's say, for instance, he's on his
00:48:36
way to have the needle put into him.
00:48:39
And, you know, some random inmate catches him, and beats
00:48:44
the living, you know what out of him?
00:48:45
Well, they have to wait for him to heal up before you can walk.
00:48:50
Exactly. I don't know but see these are
00:48:52
the things that need to be fixed.
00:48:53
So like the needles have to be clean.
00:48:56
They can't be very sterile because you don't want to get,
00:49:00
you don't want to get infection right while you're putting to
00:49:02
the shirt, right? So again, this is because it's
00:49:06
inhumane and so that's what they look at it is.
00:49:08
There's another problem is that this inhumane nonsense?
00:49:12
I mean, you come on but again that adds up that maybe we
00:49:15
should just do shooting range or something else that that, you
00:49:19
know, I don't know. I don't the electric chair
00:49:22
worries me because I feel like there have been more botched
00:49:25
electric chair, you know? I mean, that's I think, you
00:49:30
know, firing squad where the person that actually does it
00:49:34
because I can't imagine being the person that can you imagine
00:49:36
being the person that that either pulls, the trigger does?
00:49:38
Well, no, not that I'm saying that actually solves that.
00:49:41
Imagining the person that injects Or the person that turns
00:49:46
on the electric chair, or does all these other methods, when
00:49:49
the firing squad, the purpose of the firing squad.
00:49:51
Again, my understanding, I mean, I 1 years ago, maybe it
00:49:58
wasn't, but I, my understanding is that it's because you have,
00:50:02
like, 10 people that all shoot at the same time, right?
00:50:05
And only one. No one, only one.
00:50:06
No one knows who actually. So you don't feel like you
00:50:09
killed the person. Yeah.
00:50:10
And and so I think that's, that's interesting.
00:50:14
And maybe we should get that back a bit but you all those
00:50:19
things you're just saying or silly.
00:50:20
I mean you're talking about worried about sterilization of
00:50:23
the needle and making sure this person's healthy enough to be
00:50:27
killed at all these things. And I think that's that's the
00:50:30
issue. So maybe what we're dealing with
00:50:32
isn't necessarily a difference of opinion on If those things
00:50:38
were addressed, would it change your mind?
00:50:40
Or are you pretty much just said in the fact that you want
00:50:43
somebody to live out in prison? You want them to be there.
00:50:48
Me personally, I think and maybe were too much in sound mind and
00:50:53
when it comes to this but I would think living in prison
00:50:57
would be absolute torture you know and it would just it would
00:51:01
be devastating to wake up every day in a small cell, whether
00:51:05
you're you have an in our roommate.
00:51:07
With you, what are their cell made, whatever you want to call
00:51:09
them worrying about having to look over your shoulder all the
00:51:12
time? I think that would be absolutely
00:51:18
Jack with my mind. Well, no, knowing you going to
00:51:22
go ahead and say this, I don't think you would do well.
00:51:28
In prison. And I think that might be why
00:51:31
you are trying to put yourself in the mind of these criminals.
00:51:35
Well, and on the flip side, I feel like putting them into
00:51:38
death is just too easy. I feel like it, right.
00:51:40
But on the flip side, their mental state, it may be sunshine
00:51:45
and Roses in prison, so maybe it's an easy ride.
00:51:48
Well, that's what I'm saying. So that is that you, you know,
00:51:50
you, somebody that has psychological issues.
00:51:54
And I think that Anybody that's capable of murder or child
00:51:59
molestation or even honestly, even raping.
00:52:03
It's like they have psychological issues now, right?
00:52:05
Yeah. And and all of a sudden they're
00:52:08
in prison and it becomes a whole new game, it's a whole new life.
00:52:11
It's something exciting. Maybe it's hard to put myself in
00:52:14
the mindset of these people, but you know, that's what I've
00:52:17
heard. Is that is that the, you know,
00:52:19
in there it's this which group of my part of who am I teaming
00:52:24
up with who defends me? Who do I do?
00:52:26
Offend each day, do I get all my food or is going to be stolen
00:52:30
from me? I mean, it's just this whole
00:52:32
nother. It's like a game almost.
00:52:33
It's like a whole nother life. And and I feel like, you know,
00:52:38
some of that that maybe he'll for a lot of people.
00:52:40
It definitely would be for you. Probably from for me to uh yeah
00:52:44
I do. Well yeah I can't imagine living
00:52:46
it and live in that type of life and who would be taking
00:52:49
advantage of first? You or me I would hate to admit
00:52:56
it but you think so you think it would be you?
00:52:58
Well, I'm sitting here thinking, you know, I would like some
00:53:02
time. And unfortunately, I've thought
00:53:05
about Out this. But if I end up in jail and I
00:53:08
knew I had to go to jail, I would like at least a bit of a
00:53:11
time frame because I'm manscape, you know, I keep you know, this
00:53:18
is going to go splendidly so I manscape I keep I clean shaven.
00:53:23
Now always have tried to keep my hair clean cut, do they have a
00:53:28
barber to do the tips and like spike, your hair like you like
00:53:31
to do, right? Yeah.
00:53:33
And so, you know, Paint the toenails.
00:53:36
That is torture if they didn't have anybody to do that, right?
00:53:39
Okay, well my issue is I need time to grow out my body here.
00:53:46
I need time to grow up my facial hair for.
00:53:48
Oh, you mean for prison for prison.
00:53:50
So you never going to press. I can't go in there.
00:53:52
Looking see. You want to have like a
00:53:56
probationary period, right? Where you can take.
00:53:58
All right, 30 days. I'll turn myself in right for
00:54:01
you, maybe two months. Now, way I can do is get rid of
00:54:04
the toenail polish, okay? Grow out the body here, but what
00:54:08
was your crime? That would put you in prison
00:54:10
because if you're one of these assholes, then I I could care
00:54:12
less and you go right away. But if you're going to prison
00:54:15
because of like laundering or or something on damn smart enough
00:54:18
for that, if you're going to prison for something stupid,
00:54:22
yeah, whatever that maybe then I'd be, I would support this
00:54:27
notion of, of a little bit of a Purgatory.
00:54:30
If you will, where you sit there in your, you just get you.
00:54:34
It's almost like you're prepping honestly Ryan, I would want
00:54:36
this, even if I had to go spend a weekend, just a week and a
00:54:40
facility for sure, for some dumb.
00:54:42
Idea. So you want to remove your
00:54:44
toenail polish which we haven't really talked about.
00:54:46
So, anybody listening is probably kind of like, what are
00:54:48
they talking about? Yeah.
00:54:50
Do you want to, do you even want to approach that right now?
00:54:53
Or would you like to wait, we can touch on that if you want it
00:54:56
real fast, real fast. I mean, there's not a lot to it.
00:54:58
Trade likes to paint someone else.
00:55:00
Yeah, so so moving on. It started with the ex W the
00:55:04
second. Okay.
00:55:05
I've sorry. Next wife she liked to go.
00:55:07
Get pedicures wanted me to go with her.
00:55:08
I started, you know what? I want to pay my toenails to
00:55:11
then it It became a deal with Taekwondo and me and my mom,
00:55:17
then it became a deal with Taekwondo to where me and my mom
00:55:23
every time, every time I would belt up, we would go get my art
00:55:28
toenails painted the color of the belt seat belt up.
00:55:31
Get a new color belt, progress through the rest.
00:55:34
Yes. Okay, so each state was yeah,
00:55:37
you're telling me that if you got like purple belt, is there a
00:55:40
purple belt? There was a purple belt, I think
00:55:43
I got better have a same time, Lulu.
00:55:45
Or if you got blue belt, you would get blue tone Upon a Time.
00:55:48
It seems pretty simple. So yeah, that's for a woman and
00:55:50
when actually, when I started Taekwondo, we just recently went
00:55:54
with my niece and my mom. We let the nice pick out the
00:55:57
toenail polish and of course, she picked a sparkly color for
00:56:00
me, so I get to start taekwondo with sparkly toenail.
00:56:03
So, okay, anyway, became a thing with class.
00:56:05
Anyway, so yes, if I ever ended up having to go to a facility,
00:56:09
even if it was for overnight, I want a 30-day period one.
00:56:13
Yeah to I guess man myself up a little bit where what mean get
00:56:18
the nail polish remover, want to be less attractive for the
00:56:23
Bubba's that are in prison haven't seen women and days or
00:56:27
your you walk down there. We don't know polish in its tone
00:56:30
out all is clean shaven you know they can just look at your toes
00:56:33
the whole time. They're like you know not to
00:56:35
mention the Tramp Stamp I have is not going over well so I'm
00:56:38
probably going to need a back tattoo to finish that off
00:56:41
Butterfly. Liar.
00:56:42
No heart to Carnation. So anyway.
00:56:48
Yes if I can't. So imagine all right.
00:56:51
Yeah, I okay. So you're telling me that you
00:56:52
think that you admittedly would would maybe get taken advantage
00:56:56
before me. I don't have toenail polish and
00:57:00
that's essentially what we're getting at is you have a little
00:57:02
you have a few little extra, you know Trey intricacies in, there
00:57:07
you go, Trey, intricacies that. That number will cause you to be
00:57:11
Advantage of tray isms be red flags in prison.
00:57:15
They say nine teamed up in prison.
00:57:17
Would we would that be effective?
00:57:18
Or would that be useless? That might be useful.
00:57:23
So what if we ended up unlike rival in rival, gangs in the, in
00:57:27
the jail? Oh, that would be interested.
00:57:29
We would write had to find ways to talk to each other without
00:57:32
getting caught. I don't think we would do very
00:57:34
well. I think, I think we would get
00:57:36
caught pretty fast and then they would probably just torture us
00:57:40
together. Yeah, moving on.
00:57:41
On. But I think the death penalty
00:57:44
topic is one. That's We could go.
00:57:47
It's like most of our topics, we can go into it for forever.
00:57:51
I mean, there's so much more to get to than that.
00:57:52
There's the details, like I said, and I know I made it.
00:57:55
I made it in jest, but I was saying, you know how about
00:57:59
somebody, sit in prison for five years, just to deal with that
00:58:03
and then okay, boom, you're done.
00:58:05
And then after that and that happens, I mean people lead up,
00:58:09
you know, they're on death row, they don't go right away.
00:58:12
But you know, like I said, there's some Middle Ground here,
00:58:14
it shouldn't be either, you know.
00:58:17
You're going to be put to death or you're definitely never going
00:58:19
to be put to death in my opinion.
00:58:20
If the crime is what it is. I mean I again I mean if you're
00:58:24
doing something silly like shoplifting from Walmart.
00:58:29
Yeah I don't think you deserve the death penalty but but I'm
00:58:32
saying it with some of these major heinous crimes it's really
00:58:36
hard for me to not just feel like let's just Let's just rid
00:58:41
the world of the garbage. Does that make sense?
00:58:45
I don't want, I don't want that or a here, just, you're gone,
00:58:48
you're done. And I guess another another
00:58:50
thing to really dive into is what is what is the death
00:58:53
penalty really do. So I don't feel it deters,
00:58:57
crime. Because if you have, them is a
00:58:59
good point, you know? I so that would be fun to figure
00:59:02
out. Okay, what is the death penalty
00:59:04
really doing for us? Because I don't think it deters
00:59:07
crime because people are going to commit crimes.
00:59:10
Regardless, for whatever reason that that's their lies.
00:59:12
You think, 100%. Because me, and you, I don't
00:59:17
want to be put to death, you know.
00:59:19
So I'm not going to commit a crime that's going to put me in
00:59:21
that, so that's the point, right?
00:59:23
My point that actually is for me, but if sound, we're, I would
00:59:26
like to think we're of sound mind, you know?
00:59:29
But for people, that feel the need to commit a crime, they
00:59:32
don't care. What if there's no death penalty
00:59:34
ever, and you're in a state with another penalty and somebody
00:59:37
wants to commit one of these crimes and and is obviously
00:59:40
still probably psychologically has some issues and and and they
00:59:44
go. Well, I'm not going It's death.
00:59:45
So there's always a chance I can get out whether it's Pro is,
00:59:48
whatever. There's always chance, I can get
00:59:50
out. There's always a chance that,
00:59:51
you know, look, I mean, I'm going to jail again, like I
00:59:53
said, maybe this person is so messed up where they want to be.
00:59:56
I mean, I've heard I read about this where some of these
00:59:58
criminals are like they want to be in jail, they're taken care
01:00:01
of. Oh, absolutely.
01:00:02
I have nothing to do, they don't have.
01:00:03
I mean, they do their basic jobs, they don't have to go on
01:00:06
an interview for to fold the towels.
01:00:09
Well, I've heard plenty of stories, where people got out of
01:00:11
prison but couldn't adjust and adjust, and they, They committed
01:00:15
a crime to get back in for some of the other, right?
01:00:17
So on the other side of things that and that's there you go.
01:00:19
That's my point. So if they get out there have
01:00:21
this mindset and somebody else is going to be a victim and it
01:00:25
might not be as bad as being killed, but it's still.
01:00:29
It's like, in my opinion, you continue to put these people
01:00:33
back on the streets. You continue to give an
01:00:34
opportunity to live and in an already over popular with this.
01:00:39
This would be a controversial statement but in a no already
01:00:42
overly populated world. Now, and you ain't in your,
01:00:47
you're worried about these people.
01:00:49
I mean, these are the people that should be.
01:00:52
And again, I sometimes it sounds like, you know, Utopia dystopia,
01:00:57
like down the road type type thing in our future.
01:01:03
But I feel like, you know, we start eliminating people that
01:01:06
kill people that rape, people that molest children, and then
01:01:11
all of a sudden slowly, but surely the world becomes better.
01:01:14
Replace right? I mean or am I being you know
01:01:18
but then there's the whole moral argument which which we haven't
01:01:21
even touched on I think in response to your last comment.
01:01:26
I never respond to that directly if I'm going to.
01:01:28
If I'm a person that's going to commit a crime and I go, whoa, I
01:01:32
could actually be put to death and as sick as sick as I might
01:01:36
be, I wouldn't be able to commit any more crimes or I wouldn't be
01:01:40
able to do this or I won't be able to do this.
01:01:42
I'm done. They're not messing with me.
01:01:45
That made it maybe deter it out of our.
01:01:48
I don't think they're that. I think if there's a lot of, if
01:01:51
you're at the point of where you're having, if it's not
01:01:53
self-defense, if you're at the point where you're going to go
01:01:55
commit murder, I think you're already past that point.
01:01:57
So but what if it was 20% it's still some what I think we need
01:02:02
to focus on on this aspect of is, is what are we doing to
01:02:05
rehabilitate these people once they go in because I think in
01:02:09
most cases that you go in and I feel like you Come out worse
01:02:15
than what you did when you went in the point.
01:02:18
I don't I just don't think the salvageable and people wanted
01:02:21
people want to salvage it, but I interrupted you.
01:02:23
Go ahead. Hey, but that's something.
01:02:25
I think we should look at to as far as the rehabilitation piece
01:02:29
of. But what are we doing?
01:02:30
Are we doing anything to help that peace out?
01:02:33
But it, but you can go in. You can go in as a person that
01:02:37
stole a car, you know, as you know, a dumb 18 year old, but
01:02:41
your inmates with these men, you come out and you kill Somebody
01:02:45
because of dumb shit that you learned in prison, you know.
01:02:48
And your mind is that you're either a Mormon to a crime.
01:02:50
At some point in your life you're able to do it at another
01:02:52
Point. Your life in my opinion, I mean
01:02:55
people will say always 18 and now he's you know, grand babies.
01:02:58
Learn you know really. I still feel like deep down.
01:03:01
If you're able to do something you're able, you're always going
01:03:04
to be able to do that again. I'm not saying there aren't
01:03:07
people that change. I mean, like, don't get me
01:03:09
wrong. I'm not sitting here saying,
01:03:10
people haven't come out and gone.
01:03:11
You know what? Yeah, that was a stupid thing.
01:03:14
I did. When I was 19 years old and it
01:03:16
was, I stole a car and, and can can that person live without
01:03:22
stealing a car. Sure.
01:03:24
Right. But there are plenty of times
01:03:27
when it comes out in his worst, like you just said.
01:03:31
And so, I think that's where it becomes a little bit.
01:03:34
It just becomes tricky. That's why this topic is we
01:03:36
could go on and on and on and on but I think that it was a good
01:03:40
you know, we got we kind of dug into a little bit tonight.
01:03:42
I think the difference is you want these types of criminals to
01:03:47
suffer in prison? Yes and I just want them
01:03:50
eliminated from our world because they don't deserve to be
01:03:55
a part of our world. I agree with that piece of it
01:03:58
but well right but right and so I think that's the difference is
01:04:01
I'm just I'm kind of like Let's then the hurt.
01:04:04
Let's just get, let's get the weeds out of here.
01:04:07
So, I've got a fun suggestion. I love how you say the word fun,
01:04:11
right after we talked about the death penalty, go ahead.
01:04:13
And so in school, one of our coaches said, had a great idea
01:04:18
for people in prison. So instead of the death penalty,
01:04:21
how about this? How about, we dig a big hole,
01:04:26
okay, we put 50 death row, inmates in this big hole and we
01:04:31
give them enough food for People.
01:04:34
So there's 50 guys in enough food for 49.
01:04:37
Next day, enough food for 48, right?
01:04:39
So on, so, on and so, on until you get to one last person, dig
01:04:43
another hole. Put that one last person in
01:04:45
there. Put another 49 with them.
01:04:47
Boom. Keep going about that.
01:04:50
And you televise this on like yeah, like a paper.
01:04:52
You definitely, you know, have sponsored by man.
01:04:54
It's very similar to like the Hunger Games.
01:04:56
There you go, you're rich. You're in a hole and you're just
01:04:59
survival of the fittest. I mean, it's like, you have see
01:05:01
on a whole different level right, there you go.
01:05:03
Ever been to USC guy, UFC guy, I don't like watching, people get
01:05:08
beaten up, I don't either and like that, especially the women,
01:05:11
I don't know what it, I don't like it.
01:05:13
I mean, somebody gets hit and, like, knock down.
01:05:14
It makes me very uncomfortable. Yes, I'm the same with that, but
01:05:19
but at the same time, maybe you do make it a little more
01:05:22
exciting. Maybe you not just a hole, but
01:05:24
maybe you put them in like like a Hunger Games, type deal, where
01:05:27
you put them in a, some sort of a bubble of big huge bubble.
01:05:32
There's different type of landscape and all that.
01:05:34
Yes. And let em.
01:05:36
Let em have it out. Yeah.
01:05:37
And that's essentially what the Hunger Games was and it wasn't
01:05:40
all criminals. I think a little bit of that,
01:05:42
but and there's been ideas like that before, obviously, in
01:05:46
literature to be interesting, just to see how that works.
01:05:48
I imagine that I look people, anybody that doesn't think that
01:05:52
would Would lead the ratings on any given week night on ABC is
01:06:00
messed up. I mean, the bachelor would not
01:06:01
be able to compete with us in my opinion.
01:06:04
So we got real real life, Bachelor that followed by
01:06:07
followed, by the the survival of the fittest, inmate Hunger
01:06:13
Games. There we go.
01:06:15
I think we should open our start our own network.
01:06:18
There we go. We've got content ready to roll
01:06:21
the difference between bachelor. Her real world star.
01:06:25
Excuse me, real lifestyle. And, and this new Hunger Games.
01:06:29
Inmate thing is pretty funny. Absolutely.
01:06:32
And the middle, we'll do like a re-run of friends or something,
01:06:35
or scrub, this growl, just something.
01:06:37
Just just to lighten the mood. Oh my God.
01:06:40
But anyway, I thought that was good conversation.
01:06:42
How about here? Yeah, it's good.
01:06:44
Yeah, we're, we're still friends.
01:06:46
See everybody? Try?
01:06:48
And I have completely different opinions on the death penalty
01:06:52
and here we are. We're probably still gonna
01:06:56
cuddle later when you probably brought from probably.
01:06:59
I mean I have to get over there to get over our disagreement on
01:07:02
the issue, okay? But I'll get over it and I think
01:07:06
that's the point is that hey let's talk about it.
01:07:10
We'll move on from that. How about this?
01:07:13
How about this? Do you think that there are any
01:07:18
aliens that live among us, okay? And, and this isn't, I'm not
01:07:24
talking about weird-looking, people talking about the
01:07:28
stereotypical movie Alien or comic book alien, okay?
01:07:32
I'm talking about. It could be anything, it could
01:07:34
be buying on us right now. Well, spying on his right now, I
01:07:39
may be the kind where it looks like technology but I'm thinking
01:07:41
more of even like like something that looks like a amoeba or a
01:07:46
like a something that looks just like slime or caterpillar.
01:07:50
That could be an alien. You know what I mean?
01:07:51
Rewriting think about. It doesn't look like us or
01:07:53
doesn't look like computers. It could be anything.
01:07:55
It could be, it could look like a tree or shrub.
01:07:57
Bobblehead, exactly what I was thinking, okay, it could look
01:08:02
like a Bobble bobble, head alien.
01:08:05
Just see that thing away. So I just curious to think that
01:08:12
after I'm one of Those guys that thinks that after how many
01:08:17
millions and billions of years that this work, this Earth has
01:08:19
been here and we know that there's a universe out there
01:08:24
that somehow some way there has to be contact and I would like
01:08:29
to discuss possible. Extraterrestrial, at some point,
01:08:33
we have to have one on our show. Well, that's the that's what I'm
01:08:36
saying. Okay, if you believe we believe
01:08:39
they're out there. Let's go get one but I'm just
01:08:43
curious. Some, whether you even think
01:08:44
that they're out there, I'm intrigued.
01:08:46
I think it would be fun to think that that's a possibility.
01:08:49
But it's not, you know, is it? Is it far-fetched?
01:08:52
I don't know. You know, in this world.
01:08:54
Why would it be far-fetched? You know, it's big as this
01:08:57
universe is right. It can't be that far.
01:09:00
Fetched I could I would assume there's another planet out there
01:09:04
that has people just like us on it, don't you think people just
01:09:09
like us? Yeah, that's interesting.
01:09:11
That would be fun. If you don't believe, there are
01:09:15
any aliens out there than we should probably not have a
01:09:17
discussion about it. I believe there's aliens out
01:09:19
there. Well, there you go, that's all I
01:09:20
needed to hear. I believe there's aliens will
01:09:22
get to that. How about we get to that some
01:09:24
some time because there's so many, there's so many ideas that
01:09:29
people have about it. Whether it's, you know, a lot of
01:09:31
it is writers and Screen screenplay writers and all that,
01:09:35
that come up with these these things.
01:09:37
But it is so much more that more basic, more whatever.
01:09:42
And it's kind of, like, Like, you know, what's the whole
01:09:44
saying that people we only use 10% of our brain.
01:09:46
So what else? Are we capable of?
01:09:48
Right? And maybe we don't quite
01:09:51
comprehend that this is out there and that's intriguing to
01:09:54
me. And so I'd like to have I,
01:09:57
hopefully, we can find somebody that's really an alien and alien
01:10:01
first off. But yeah, I mean trait, you
01:10:03
know, this is what we're here for.
01:10:04
We're trying to bring to light issues that people might not
01:10:09
otherwise, think about, right, like aliens.
01:10:13
Like aliens? Yeah because I can imagine, I
01:10:15
mean, people sit there and think, Hmm, but now they will
01:10:19
well. Now what I'm hoping is that they
01:10:22
look and they say, all right You know when I think aliens I was
01:10:26
thinking about green slimy monsters, right?
01:10:29
Ryan, I got Ghostbusters but Ghostbusters or well go special
01:10:33
offshore head Marshmallow Man. but now we know Ryan has led me
01:10:39
to look at this in a whole different way because he said,
01:10:43
if I looked down and there's a piece of gunk in the bottom of
01:10:48
the tree, What if that's an alien, and I'm hoping that I've
01:10:54
kind of maybe, maybe, maybe brought some awareness if you
01:10:58
will to that Gunk to the gunk. And, and the fact that, you know
01:11:01
what, maybe we should be willing to explore those thoughts.
01:11:05
Yeah. And not just pretend that
01:11:07
they're not there, not just step on it and move on Stefan.
01:11:11
It, it could be a friend trying to reach out from a different
01:11:15
Universe. They come in peace, right?
01:11:20
Do you have anything else this evening?
01:11:21
My man? I have something about
01:11:24
self-awareness Ryan that I'd like to, let's, let's discuss
01:11:27
and, and obviously something I've noticed while I've been on
01:11:30
my bike rides. But yeah, just kidding.
01:11:35
We haven't talked about five. No, you're right.
01:11:37
You know what? I actually I've actually meant
01:11:40
to ask you about how they're going, so let's talk, but you
01:11:42
haven't anyway. So what I've learned is people
01:11:45
out walking their dogs and it scares the shit out of me
01:11:48
because as I'm riding up on them, And they see see me
01:11:53
coming, it's like they get a white-knuckle grip on their
01:11:58
leash, and I'm sitting here thinking, what the hell the
01:12:01
owners the owners, some standard thing of, what the hell is this
01:12:03
dog going to do if they get loose, you know?
01:12:08
So I start freaking out, but the self-awareness piece of it is,
01:12:14
if your dog is bigger than you, Don't take them out on a walk.
01:12:19
By yourself. I've come up on looming, bring
01:12:23
bring support. Yeah, because I've come out and
01:12:27
these women, you know, little bitty women older women,
01:12:30
whatever the case may be, isn't it.
01:12:31
They had these big old dogs like a Rottweiler or, you know, a big
01:12:35
old Great Dane or whatever the case may be is and the bigger
01:12:38
than them. So honestly, if this dog wants
01:12:40
to pull them, they will or get away whatever the case may be
01:12:43
is. But they're out walking the dog
01:12:45
and I come pulling and use. I swear it right?
01:12:47
They get Into a Crouch with a death grip, on the leash.
01:12:51
And I'm sitting there fearing for my life.
01:12:53
You're going at this dog gets off this leash.
01:12:55
There's going to be a gone. Yeah.
01:12:56
Well let me ask you this, are you more scared of the mountain
01:13:00
lion that that apparently is out there or one of these dogs?
01:13:04
Probably the mountain lion. Yeah, right.
01:13:06
So on the flip side, though, sack is.
01:13:09
So so man up and just slap the shit out of a dog.
01:13:13
Go right? Just go run on by it.
01:13:15
Okay. I mean I don't think the owners
01:13:17
are So don't with that. Be interesting.
01:13:19
If the if one of those dogs got loose and came at you but the
01:13:23
mountain lion like took it down. Oh that would be almost like it
01:13:25
was defending you. You would never believe that
01:13:27
story. You think after remember that, I
01:13:30
don't believe the best what happened today, the mountain
01:13:33
lion, that, that would be fantastic.
01:13:36
That's your, that's your self-awareness is the dog
01:13:39
owners. Yeah, it's just funny.
01:13:41
When you see him, when they turn around, they see me coming, they
01:13:45
look down at their dog and I swear to you, And they its death
01:13:49
grip, and it makes you wonder, why do they feel the need to
01:13:52
definitely on the leash pretty funny?
01:13:54
You know? Well, well, it also may be
01:13:56
because they're, they're so worried that the dog, if the dog
01:13:59
gets loose, they don't know what's going to happen, right?
01:14:01
Which freaks me out while you take him on a walk, go, you
01:14:04
know, through a park and, you know, there's kids.
01:14:06
So it's like y'all, you take him on a walk with a leash.
01:14:09
Yeah. Just, you know, these leashes,
01:14:11
aren't the leashes are made to be pretty good.
01:14:15
It's not like, it's not like, you know, 50% of Asia's are
01:14:18
ineffective right? Like just hang tight.
01:14:21
You don't need to death grip. Yeah, it's yeah, I knew your dog
01:14:24
and if you can't handle your dog, don't take your dog out,
01:14:27
take him for a walk, let him run around.
01:14:28
You are a shouldn't say this. But if you're a female or a male
01:14:33
small female small, male or female, that's 100 pounds.
01:14:37
And your dog is 100 pounds, not a good combination with, with
01:14:41
more muscle than you likely, then then maybe you shouldn't go
01:14:45
by yourself, right? The dog out.
01:14:46
And that's all So, yeah, that's always fun to see when I'm
01:14:49
writing. I like, I like that.
01:14:51
For our self-awareness. Yeah.
01:14:52
Segment for this evening. Whoo.
01:14:56
Whoo, What a show. So good.
01:14:59
Well, I always feel good when you're here.
01:15:01
Try. Yeah, I think it was good.
01:15:04
I think, I think we had a little little bit of everything in this
01:15:07
show. Yeah.
01:15:08
Before we go, I have to know because I got into a
01:15:14
disagreement with my wife. Well, I've got into many
01:15:17
disagreements with my butt but this one be specific.
01:15:22
This one has actually happened over and over.
01:15:24
So, the many disagreements, I'm referring to our about this
01:15:28
toilet paper. Okay, over, or under over.
01:15:33
Thank you, I think it's a guy thing.
01:15:36
You're psychotic. If it's under the women.
01:15:40
What about Your wives. I know the second one was over.
01:15:44
I do remember though their games over like a.
01:15:46
Okay. What about your your your
01:15:48
current woman haven't noticed? All right.
01:15:52
Ask her because it I don't understand.
01:15:57
What? I explained to my wife and
01:15:58
again, this is a bathroom talk. Whatever.
01:16:00
Is that? If I'm standing now for you,
01:16:03
this might not matter, but if I'm standing and I'm going
01:16:08
number one, okay? And I need to, you know, get a
01:16:13
quick wipe or quick, you know, little dab, whatever.
01:16:17
And I leaned over to get the toilet paper, okay?
01:16:20
It is further away if it's under than over true.
01:16:24
So if you're putting it under your essentially not
01:16:27
Inconsiderate of men. Of many, okay?
01:16:32
Except for you when you're sitting down to pee, doesn't
01:16:35
when you're sitting down to be under his fine.
01:16:37
Now, I'm kidding for some reason.
01:16:39
The under thing really gets me I mean I think that might be just
01:16:43
I think I might be just as mad at the other thing as I get when
01:16:47
trying to fold a fitted, fitted sheet fitted sheet.
01:16:52
Yeah I don't even try and I think those two things really
01:16:55
just get me but my wife's like I don't want to say this but I
01:16:59
will Say it. She thinks that it is more
01:17:04
sophisticated to have it under really and I have no idea where
01:17:10
that came from and I honestly was so repulsed by it that I
01:17:14
just kind of like lettuce like the rain, leave the room, but so
01:17:17
occasionally and she knows. And you know what their you pick
01:17:19
your battles, right? Yeah, she I think this is one of
01:17:21
the battles. She was like, alright, whatever.
01:17:23
I'm just going to go ahead and go over because he seemed to
01:17:25
lose. You're very passionate about,
01:17:28
you're passionate about my toilet.
01:17:29
Yeah. So Occasionally she'll slip up
01:17:34
and if you want my walk in I walk in and I'm just like,
01:17:37
you've got to be fucking kidding me!
01:17:39
I look take the toilet paper off the roll.
01:17:40
You throw it at her until she learns.
01:17:43
Usually, I cool down by the time, I see her again.
01:17:46
So yeah, it doesn't escalate, but it's just interesting that
01:17:49
something like toilet, paper could go.
01:17:51
I was just curious. I saw this earlier.
01:17:54
She, I'll say she messed up by putting it under.
01:17:58
Yeah, earlier today. So it reminds me of just curious
01:18:01
your thoughts, you know, I'm going to ask everybody that we
01:18:03
have on the show Over under on Mikey Batali.
01:18:08
You think good show? Good.
01:18:09
Show you like it? Yeah.
01:18:10
So anything else. I think I'm good.
01:18:13
You're good. I'm good.
01:18:14
Love you guys later later. I'm going to go find a bidet
01:18:46
right now. Do you think they would?
01:18:48
Let me bring my loofah into prison?
01:18:47
Do you think they would? Let me bring my loofah into
01:18:49
prison?