From trading goats in Mesopotamia to ghosting on Bumble—romance has come a long way.
In this episode, Ryan breaks down the bizarre, hilarious, and often depressing evolution of dating across history. From arranged marriages and WWII love stories to dating cards, personal ads, and Tinder fatigue, he explores how love has been bought, sold, scheduled, and swiped for centuries.
You’ll hear about:
Cultural rituals that make The Bachelor look tame
The moment dating left the home (and entered the diner)
How AI and algorithms are now the matchmakers
Why Gen Z might be the loneliest—and pickiest—generation yet
Plus, a few awkward stories from Ryan’s own history that prove love may be eternal, but dating? A mess.
🎙 Chapters:
00:00 - Ancient Courtship & Awkward Teen Phone Calls
05:01 - Love Stories from WWII to Gen Z
15:54 - Rise of Dating Apps & AI in Romance
20:05 - High Expectations & Online Letdowns
28:58 - First Dates Gone Wrong
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2000 BC Mesopotamia There was no swiping except for livestock,
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except for land, except for political affiliations,
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apparently, the parents of said. People, that's how they would
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acquire. Daughter-in-law, son-in-law.
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I just don't. I just can't imagine now like.
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I gave you 6 cows for your daughter.
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Oh, she's not about. OK, so 4 cows.
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For the young, younger. Daughter I How do you label or
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how do you place a value? In livestock on a woman.
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They did it. 1818 hundreds. So 19th century, this became a
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thing where you'd leave a card at the woman's doorstep and.
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It was up to her. If she liked you, she would
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return the favour. She would offer you an
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invitation to the house or dinner or for some sort of get
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together. The awkward phone calls as.
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A teenager, you know, you're calling, it's ringing and your
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heart's pounding. And then like, my mom answers
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the phone. This was back when it was all
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landlines right before. So right before pagers and cell
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phones came out. As a young teen, you'd wait for
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the girl to call you back. I'll call you back when you sit
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All right, let's talk about something fun.
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Something the other day came up and I was thinking about the
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story of how my grandparents met, and it got me into thinking
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about dating and it got me into thinking about love, courtship,
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marriage. The the goo goo Gaga.
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Feelings we all had at some point in our lives for different
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people. For me, it was only for my my
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wife, in case she happens to be listening, she doesn't listen to
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the show much anyway. So.
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So let me tell you, I mean, it's really about I just started
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thinking about how people met over time.
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You're talking about now someone says, well, I need to meet
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somebody. What do you do now in 2025?
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We'll get there, but it got me thinking about my grandparents
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and I'll sum it up. Really fast.
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It's a. Very, very beautiful story.
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It involved my grandfather, his service in the military.
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He was an army Colonel and he was in France and occupied
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France during World War 2. A lovely woman who had been
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dropped in the doorstep as a baby in France.
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Her and her friend were out in the streets, didn't speak a lick
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of English, and my grandfather and his army buddy thought they
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looked nice, if you will, and turns out they went out on a
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double date. They didn't speak the same
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language, they couldn't really communicate, and halfway through
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the day my grandfather and his buddy decided they wanted to
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switch dates. I don't know how you.
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You tell. The the the the women that
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during the date and not being able to speak their language.
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But all I know is that my grandfather and my grandmother
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fell in love. They claim it was that night
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whatever not speaking the same language and that to me is is
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wild. She ended up they ended up
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teaching each other how to speak the other language and enough to
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be fluent and of course upon returning home.
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With. Little to no communication with
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his family. Here comes this French woman on
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his arm. And back then it was a big deal.
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Introducing to the family was a bigger deal.
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It was a. Big A Big.
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Ordeal if you will, and the rest is history.
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I mean they they were together for over 50.
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Five years. And here I am.
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So I just thought about that and, and how there was no
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technology. There was no way to meet what
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ended up being each other's soul mate other than just taking a
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shot, walking up and saying hi in English and hoping that they
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thought you looked appealing or had a good sense of good vibe
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with you. They weren't creeped out right
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away. And so I started thinking.
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And so let's talk about it a little bit.
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What about the cultures that are like they have to be set?
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Up by the parents. To me that seems crazy, but to
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them it's not. Let me tell you another little
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story. When I was in college, I helped
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students that were over here on programs that did not speak
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English as their first language. And I met with them once a week
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and we spoke in English and I taught them syntax and sentence
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structure and vocabulary, just anything that they need to help
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with them. And then by doing that, we would
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talk about. Each other's culture.
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And I learned a lot. And there was a man from Saudi
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Arabia, I think it was the Saudi Arabian gentleman in in you find
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this a lot with with those Middle Eastern culture with that
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with that culture and, and they. Would talk about how it.
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Was all arranged, it was all the parents.
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They set it up. Love didn't matter, according to
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this man and to me growing up here.
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Where? That's all that matters, or it's
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supposed to be all that matters. It was, I mean it just and you
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know, he's used to it. He's like to us.
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What you do is weird. And makes me shake my head and I
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said, I get that, but man, don't you want to make sure that this
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is a person you have to wake up and be with this person every
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day of your life. And we are capable of feeling
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loved. So but I, I backed up and I
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said, OK, fair enough. I respect that.
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And I don't know, you know, we just got, we're so used to what
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we do. And they're so used to what?
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We do what? They do so anyway, let's let's
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talk a. Little bit about it so.
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We couldn't resist this. So go ahead and swipe.
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I mean, let's roll a little about the history of love.
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These are some fun facts that I found fascinating.
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In 2000 BC Mesopotamia, there was no swiping.
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Except for livestock. Except for land.
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Except for political affiliations.
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Apparently the parents. Of said people, that's how they
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would acquire. Daughter-in-law, son-in-law.
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I just don't. I just can't imagine now like.
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I gave you 6 cows for your daughter.
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Oh, she's not about. OK, so 4 cows.
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For the young, younger daughter, I How do you?
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Label or how do you? Place a value in in livestock on
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a woman. They did it.
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The same thing with the. Politics, so I'll switch from.
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This to this politically, if my son can marry your daughter,
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it's interesting land. I can see a little bit maybe all
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right here. We'll, we'll gift you this in
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order to become, you know, combine the family land or
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whatever. But anyway, a long time ago.
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So let's move forward all the way to medieval Europe.
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And that was when marriages were still arranged.
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But you had to. Still, there was an interest
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because an interest in love. So people would apparently stand
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outside like the castles and the buildings and, you know, recite
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poetry and sing and do all these serenading with everything
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possible. And the joke there is.
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That, of course, it's a lot easier for the girl to like,
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ghost a guy or vice. Versa if there's an actual
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fucking mode that goes around the castle.
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Put the drawbridge up. No, you, you aren't it.
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So stay away from my Moat and my bridge.
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But you know, you just wonder. There's no communication except
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face to face back then. It's just it's, I feel like it
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would be refreshing, but at the same time there.
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Also be hardships as well. Let's move forward calling
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cards. I just I I've.
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I've heard about. This a long a while back and
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then I just kind of you know you you don't think about it again
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until you start talking about this subject 1818 hundreds so
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19th century this became a thing where.
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You'd leave a card at. At a woman's doorstep and.
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It was up to her. If she liked you, she would
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return the favour. She would offer you an
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invitation to the house for dinner or for some sort of get
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together cocktails maybe, I don't know.
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It was like the slow. Version of swiping.
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It was like. OK, I like you.
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Here's. A card and OK, I'll get back to
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you. OK.
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Yeah, we we did. We match.
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OK, good. Now come over for dinner.
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Often times families were there for the 1st and dates even after
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that. Can you imagine trying to, you
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know, work your magic? With the dad.
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Like just sitting next to you on the other side, like, hey girl,
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it's a, it's a great. Course that you have there.
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I don't know, I just I can't imagine having anybody in my
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immediate family sitting there as I tried to court anybody.
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Although my in laws are pretty fun.
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They they might, they might have been good.
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I did see my in laws not long after the first date I had with
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my wife, so maybe there's something to that.
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But God the 1st. You kind of want to work some
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magic to get that appeal going, and I don't know how I would
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have done in that situation, but it just got me thinking of the
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cards. So like, are you literally?
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Riding it on a. Card or are you do.
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You have your own logo on the card.
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I mean, is it like Ryan Layfield, you know, with a cool
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dragon or something or you know, does that go into into play?
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Is she like this card stupid? This guy, he must be stupid.
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This card is unoriginal or this card lacks creativity.
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I want to create a man. I mean, you you're already being
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analyzed by the card you're leaving on the doorstep.
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So thank goodness that system's not in play, although I kind of
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would. I kind of would.
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I think I'd be good. I.
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Think I'd have a good? Card.
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And then you get, let's go to the 20's, the 1920's, the
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Roaring 20s. They say post World War One
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everybody was a little bit antsy.
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I don't blame them, even though it was prohibition.
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Maybe that made him antsy error and they went behind the scenes.
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But this is when dating outside the home finally hit.
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I can't believe it took till the 1900s.
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Come on, I'm sure there was some.
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Affairs, people sneaking away. I'm sure it wasn't actually
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confined to the home, but it was supposed to be.
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So think about out dating outside the home club, the jazz
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club's speakeasies, You see them all dancing, you see it on the
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TV shows. I always want, if I could pick a
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decade to go to, especially in if it was the 20th century, it's
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the 20s. They were partying like with the
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women, what were they called? Flappers.
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They started having their dresses a little bit higher.
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It just wasn't as uptight, you know, people going to these bars
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and they were always just had a cocktail in hand, top hats on
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for the guys, suits and piano players and it was just looked
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like fun. Everybody thought smoking was
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good for you and cool. I don't know.
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I mean, there was just no. And granted, these people
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probably lived till they were about 45 or 50 years old, but
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they were partying, so credit to them.
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So Fast forward, I fell into the the age where technology was
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just kind of starting. It wasn't what it is now
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obviously, but it was just kind of starting.
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I still was old school. The awkward phone calls as a
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teenager. You know you're calling, it's
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ringing and your heart's pounding.
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And then like mom answers the phone.
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This was back when it was all landlines right before, so right
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before pagers and cell phones came out.
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As a as a young teen, you'd wait for the girl to call you back.
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I'll call you back. When you just sit there staring
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at that phone, it rang and you just, you know, grab it.
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And if it wasn't her, you're like, what do you want?
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No matter who it was, get off my phone.
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And you know, during, during the school days, that dance is
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Friday the the end. The last song of every dance was
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Stairway to Heaven by Led Zeppelin.
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And boy, that song is a long one.
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And you wanted that dance with your favorite woman, favorite
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young woman, if you will. And so you'd go up and you'd ask
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that some point of the week. You could do it with a note.
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You could put it in her. But her little word, she keeps
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her books and her cubby put a little note there.
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Hey, how about the last dance on Friday?
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And if she said yes, that that week was a good week.
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And but then you had some controversy of another guy who
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she like maybe a little more, ended up asking and she she
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bailed. Never happened to me, of course.
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So that's today wouldn't happen. It's phones and texting and
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social media and all that. There's no anticipation.
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There's no waking up in the morning and going.
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I got to go to school today and at some point I have, you know,
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six hours to ask this girl for the last dance.
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Now you, you text her. You stare at the text and
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rewrite it and rewrite it and use Jack fucking P.
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GPT to that'd be. So funny you put it in, ask this
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girl for the last dance and then boom, there it is and you just
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recite it. That's not genuine.
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I don't like that. I don't like that just I'm
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putting on a record. No ChatGPT when you ask a girl
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out or when you ask for that final dance.
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Anybody that if if anybody knows?
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That they still do. Dances and like the last song
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and all that. Let me know because I I'd be
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curious. I need to find somebody that
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yeah, I don't want to go try and talk to a young teenage
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teenager. They might get the wrong idea.
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For me after that, it was it was interactional.
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I grew up having interaction. I didn't grow up with the
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screens. So I was able to go to bars and
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go to places. And it helped that I played in a
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band and a lot of people there to see me.
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But I'd walk up to somebody and say, hey, can I get you a drink?
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It was that simple. I mean, it was obvious what
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you're doing, but it was that simple.
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And if the girl for or woman for whatever reason said no thank
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you. You're supposed to take.
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That as OK, she's either got a boyfriend, she's not interested,
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she's not attracted to whatever. And you just moved along.
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All right, have a good night. It was simple, you know, I
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guess, I guess. If you asked.
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Back then, I hate to admit it, but if you ask if you're in a
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bar, the chances are you're trying to.
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You want instant gratification, you're trying to get laid.
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And obviously what happens then is if you enter into a long term
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relationship after that with this woman, that's always kind
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of a point of, you know, you came home with me on the first
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night, you're dirty, you came home with me on the first night.
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You're dirty, so. I know there are people that can
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get over that, but it's kind of like always lingering, like what
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would you have done if the guy next to me had asked you to buy
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you a drink first? So there are some pros and cons.
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I don't think it's the same as as dating apps, which brings us
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to the next one. Before the the apps, you had the
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personal ads even in like the newspaper.
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I remember you'd have like that section.
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And then I don't remember that. That was when I was a kid.
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I heard about it. And then the profiles.
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Then you got, you know, you remember those videos they'd put
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on, you know, Hi, I'm so and so It's like just a blank screen
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behind you. Nothing, just your face going
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hey, I like. This.
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I like that. I don't like this.
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I'm looking for a woman who does this.
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Blonde, brunette, redhead. I don't care.
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I'll take anything. And it was so cheesy, but they
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put them out. But then you had like eHarmony
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and match.com and you do a whole profile and it was almost like
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the Myspace, Facebook look to these profiles and you.
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People could just look. And it made it easy.
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Or you could see everything about these people.
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Before that you'd OK? Wow, she's she's beautiful.
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But you didn't know anything about her.
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She could have been completely dumb or disagree with you on a
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lot of issues. Or my mind goes to that now
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because I can't imagine how people all get there.
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But then became then it came Tinder, mumble grinder for my
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homosexual friends out there in all of these apps and there's
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tons of them now. But back then, it tender was
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kind of one of the first ones, I believe before that in middle
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school and in high school, it was like, OK, you know, you, you
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let a girl know that you like her somehow.
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And then you, you kind of waited for the response.
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And then if she's responded, it was a match.
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Well, this is just like high speed.
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You know, you can go through 100 profiles in a night if you're in
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a big enough spot. And, and so it was fun.
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I mean, one of the things that it took me, I think it took me a
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little while to get off the app. I wasn't trying to meet anybody.
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I didn't communicate. I just, it was just kind of fun
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to look and see what people would put.
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Is there a quote or are there? Six pictures or whatever.
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So here's a fun fact about match.com.
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I don't know, a lot of people have heard this, but I hadn't
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before and I was talking about it recently.
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It was but this guy Gary Crimmin, who was the
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founderofmatch.com, lost his girlfriend to someone she met on
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match.com. The irony?
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But it's a girlfriend so he must have some money because
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otherwise she might have hung around to get.
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This guy's half of. This guy's wealth, so hopefully
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he found someone else. I just thought that was
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interesting. So yeah, that's it.
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When it comes to the timeline, there are issues now surrounding
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dating that I just don't think. Have ever existed before.
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First off, Gen. Z.
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Is claiming that they're bringing back love letters,
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handwritten love letters, meeting in person.
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They want to start doing again. They're claiming that there
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there's a focus here. I've just seen this a lot and
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they're claiming that Gen. Z wants to do it.
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It's like a thing and it's spreading.
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I don't buy it. I still feel like they're going
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to stalk somebody on social media.
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They're going to look at everything they can.
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Just to see what this. Person's doing and what they
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like to do, maybe history on Twitter, things like that.
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So that doesn't count. And 2nd, I didn't even know Gen.
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Z knew how to write, so kudos to you if you are actually learning
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how to formulate a complete sentence.
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The other thing that's come up recently is AI on these apps is
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starting to match people based on their appearance in their
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photos, and I don't know what technology they're using for
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this. How is AI going to judge put you
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in like a like like the way you look is going to be in a
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certain. Group over here.
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You, you are with them when it comes to your attractiveness.
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You are over here, you are over there.
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I just don't get it. I mean, is it people like
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different things? It's just, I just see how that
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going poorly. I see people getting really
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offended. I see people sad because AI put
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them into a group that maybe they don't they don't feel like
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they should be in. I'm just saying let's be careful
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with this AI thing. And so here my here's my quick
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list of pros and cons for digital.
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For the digital age of. Dating.
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I understand that. Getting to know somebody in the
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comfort of your own home or wherever, in your boxers or
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women in your robe and panties, panty thingy, whatever.
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It's easy, you don't have to. Women have your make up on guys
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and look like slobs. Food.
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Food on them. While they're doing it and you
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can still get to know somebody whether you're chatting with
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them or whether you're just looking over the profiles.
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And I don't think there's anything wrong with that to a
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point. But what?
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About the. The the giddy feeling, the
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butterflies in your stomach when you meet somebody and have that
00:20:49
connection. I don't believe you can have
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that exact connection over a computer screen.
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I just don't. There's something about the
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physical, even if. It's just a a light.
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Hand. Hold or a a hug.
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At night even, or a quick kiss goodnight, there's something
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there that you can't get on a screen.
00:21:09
I think that the big issue and Trey and I used to talk.
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About this quite a bit. Is the misrepresentation When
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you're online dating, people tend to think that you won't
00:21:19
notice in person that they don't look a thing like they put or
00:21:24
that they put a picture from 10 years prior when they were 100
00:21:28
lbs lighter and had long hair instead of short hair and didn't
00:21:34
have. Who knows, but the
00:21:36
misrepresentation is really bad. Because you're.
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Hooking people into meeting you and then it's not going to go
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well. I don't know anybody that would
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have these, this anticipation of meeting somebody they really
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like and then all of a sudden it's not even.
00:21:51
Night, it's night and day and having that.
00:21:54
Person be OK with it because it's a form of lying in my
00:21:56
opinion. You.
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Know if some people say well, makeup is lying or this is no
00:22:00
jobs in no, there's a difference.
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You know what you're doing when you put pictures up and I just
00:22:07
my advice, ladies and men, you know, put more natural pictures
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up. Put.
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Don't let it go beyond say 2 years prior to the date, today's
00:22:20
date, the day you're putting that picture up two years.
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That's it. And that's even being generous.
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Think of selfie at the at that moment.
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Get yourself looking. OK, but at least it's at that
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moment. I've just heard a lot of
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stories, maybe something from Trey, from people that have
00:22:38
shown up and it's been like, whoa, this is just not not cool
00:22:42
and it makes for an awkward evening.
00:22:44
Lastly, well, I'm combining all of these.
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How about Dick pictures and people that are inappropriate?
00:22:53
That happens online. I suppose it could happen in
00:22:56
person if you met somebody at the bar and they just, you know,
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wiped it out. But the problem on the phones
00:23:01
and these apps when you start communicating on texts, things
00:23:04
like that, is that these mostly guys, because we're gross, you
00:23:07
know, send you a picture of their penis.
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And unless you've asked for that or they know 100% that you you
00:23:15
want to see it, that's probably not a good tactic.
00:23:18
And I don't think it goes well most of the times.
00:23:20
I think a lot of guys think that they're just going to find that
00:23:23
one girl that's like, oh man, look, there's a penis.
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I'm horny now come over. And I don't think it works that
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way. And that, you know, I'm sure it
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has for somebody in the past, but I don't think it's a very
00:23:35
high percentage. But and then lastly, you know
00:23:39
what these women now and and I'm sure that there are dudes that
00:23:41
do it too, but I just saw I've seen too many of these like you
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must make this much. You must look like this.
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You must be 6 foot three or taller.
00:23:50
You must be all. I mean, you're talking about a
00:23:53
list of I mean, you must be vaxxed.
00:23:55
You must be all these things. And then I'm looking at this
00:23:58
person going. Who are you to make demands
00:24:00
about anything. You go to the gym.
00:24:03
Take a walk Why are. You telling this guy that he's
00:24:06
in order to be with you, he's got to have all these things.
00:24:10
I mean, I guess that's fine if that's you have that many
00:24:13
expectations, good luck to you. I don't think it's going to work
00:24:16
out and if it does, I stand corrected.
00:24:21
So that was that. Here's a big issue.
00:24:24
I'm going to start wrapping it up.
00:24:26
But I want you to think about this because the other issue now
00:24:29
and people will say this issue actually has been falsely
00:24:33
labeled a modern issue. And I I agree.
00:24:38
I mean, when it comes to transgender, I agree.
00:24:42
People say, oh, it's been many hundreds of years and people
00:24:45
used to be like this, OK. It hasn't been as in front of
00:24:51
our face. It hasn't been as glamorized.
00:24:53
It hasn't been as advertised and hasn't been as discussed as it
00:24:57
has in the last maybe 5 to 10 years.
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It just hasn't in my lifetime. So all of a sudden it's more and
00:25:04
more common to hear about somebody getting an operation,
00:25:10
hormones, all of these things. And should you be required as a
00:25:18
transgender person to be transparent immediately?
00:25:22
I'll give you a few minutes to eat your breadsticks and then
00:25:25
you got to come out with this. That's my opinion.
00:25:28
What do you think? I feel like this is a big enough
00:25:32
issue that if somebody finds out down the road, it's over because
00:25:37
there's a big element of trust when it comes to that.
00:25:41
That is a big deal to people and they have every right.
00:25:45
To. Have that opinion and that it's
00:25:48
a big deal. You can't tell somebody they
00:25:50
have to be attracted to, to a person that used to be a
00:25:53
different gender. You just can't.
00:25:54
You can't do that. It'll always be in the back of
00:25:57
somebody's mind. If they have a problem with,
00:26:00
they also have an opportunity to say, you know what, I don't have
00:26:02
a problem with it. Then you know 100% that this is
00:26:05
somebody that you could be with. That's what I think.
00:26:08
And then there have been a lot of people that have said
00:26:10
otherwise. And Oh well, you know, once I
00:26:12
become a woman, no more penis that I am a woman and I
00:26:18
shouldn't have to say anything about my past.
00:26:21
And I don't agree with that. I'm sorry.
00:26:24
I, I will, I'll defend that on my end.
00:26:27
Let me know what you think. And it's not because I have any
00:26:30
transphobia or any of that bullshit.
00:26:32
Don't come at me with that. Everybody needs to be happy.
00:26:36
Great, I just am a big believer in, in transparency and telling
00:26:40
the truth, especially with something like that.
00:26:43
If you have a, a, a rare condition that would cause you
00:26:46
issues down the road, I need to know that too.
00:26:49
In case we go down that road and I'm unable to, to be OK with it.
00:26:55
That's only fair. So that's just an interesting.
00:26:58
It's just you don't think about these things and all of a sudden
00:27:01
you go, wow, this is part of dating now.
00:27:04
And that, and that was what I wrote down.
00:27:05
What, what should and shouldn't be disclosed.
00:27:08
That's another topic, I think for a different time because
00:27:10
I'm, I'm getting low on time here.
00:27:13
Yeah, I, I just feel like you could go down the list and say,
00:27:15
OK, should you'd have to tell this on a first date.
00:27:18
Should you have to tell this on a first date?
00:27:19
And it might be an interesting conversation to have, So maybe
00:27:22
I'll try that sometime. I, I, I want to talk more dating
00:27:24
with somebody else rather than me just smiling at the camera.
00:27:28
Hopefully a young woman that can offer a different perspective
00:27:32
than the, you know, middle-aged man sitting here.
00:27:36
So hopefully we'll have that. And that'll be a good question
00:27:38
that perhaps we tackle at that point.
00:27:41
And then of course, politics. I tell you what, politics, I
00:27:47
can't imagine trying to date somebody with different
00:27:49
politics. And that's so interesting
00:27:51
because back in the day, no one gave a shit.
00:27:53
I didn't care when I was 20 years old, I didn't care.
00:27:57
I think it was the Clinton Bush senior, then Clinton and then
00:28:00
George W and knowing. Who cares?
00:28:03
I would date a girl that liked Bill Clinton even though he
00:28:06
wasn't what I would choose from for politics.
00:28:10
Who cares? Now it's just like, and that's
00:28:14
the other thing. These girls, these people, both
00:28:16
sides, both genders, both sexes, whatever, put on their profile.
00:28:21
If you like Trump, don't swipe right, or if you don't like
00:28:24
Trump, don't swipe right. If you're a Biden person, you
00:28:27
better swipe left. Get the fuck away.
00:28:29
It's just crazy. I also understand we had our
00:28:33
back on in season 1. She was one of the first
00:28:35
episodes I think that are that are that's available to watch.
00:28:39
Her name was Jess and she, he and her husband are opposite
00:28:42
sides politically and somehow they make it work.
00:28:46
She said they had they had great anger, angry sex and I
00:28:49
complimented them both. Some people can do it, but man,
00:28:53
it's getting it seems like it's getting more and more difficult
00:28:56
as we move forward. So let me tell you, I'm going to
00:29:01
end it on a on a light note. And what I mean by that is there
00:29:05
are always these crazy stories about first dates and they're,
00:29:08
they're so funny and they're fascinating.
00:29:10
I've got two of them for you. And then I've got one of my own
00:29:14
that's very quick. But I don't have a lot of these
00:29:17
types from dates. They just didn't go crazy.
00:29:20
There were some that just didn't go well or some that went well.
00:29:24
And you know, nobody called the other person some some of that,
00:29:28
but nothing that was really crazy crazy.
00:29:29
So let me tell you, this one was really funny.
00:29:31
They're not long at all. We went to see Avengers Infinity
00:29:35
War. In case you want to know which
00:29:36
adventures on the 1st and only date go right to the end.
00:29:41
This is the only date. Everything was all right and I
00:29:44
was excited because I'm a big Marvel fan until the whole
00:29:48
Spider Man and Iron Man's arms scene.
00:29:50
Now I haven't seen it so I don't know, but it sounds like Spider
00:29:54
Man was not doing well. Maybe?
00:29:56
I don't think they were lovers in this case, but I don't think
00:30:01
Spider man is doing well. And she said she started crying
00:30:03
because she's a fangirl and he's her favorite character.
00:30:07
My date didn't know what to do. He thought something was wrong
00:30:09
and that I wasn't OK or I wasn't enjoying the movie.
00:30:12
He also had limited English. So it's hard to.
00:30:15
Explain why I was crying. The rest of the date was super
00:30:18
awkward as he didn't know what the hell was going on.
00:30:21
Might have something to do with the language barrier.
00:30:23
Although my grandparents, they would have been fine at this
00:30:26
Marvel movie. Then he moved back to where he
00:30:28
was originally from and we never went on another date.
00:30:31
So don't cry in Marvel movies ladies.
00:30:35
You know what, don't cry in Marvel movies if you're on a
00:30:38
date with somebody who doesn't speak English, because you need
00:30:40
to be able to explain that shit. It seems pretty simple to me.
00:30:43
The other one here is is also pretty funny.
00:30:45
I was on a great first date with a guy who went to a bar during
00:30:48
the day and ordered lunch and a beer each.
00:30:50
After many hours of conversation I thought, wow this is so great.
00:30:54
We. Walk outside and he had parked
00:30:56
far away so I offered to drive him to his car.
00:30:58
He promptly gets in the car, lowers his pants, starts jerking
00:31:01
off. I screamed at him to get out and
00:31:05
that was the end of it. Guys, wait till you know she's
00:31:09
OK with you pulling your cock out before you start jerking
00:31:11
off, especially in public and especially in her vehicle.
00:31:16
Man, it sounds like this was going really well until you
00:31:18
pulled the penis out. Let's use your head, gentlemen.
00:31:22
Most of these stories are about some idiot guy.
00:31:24
I need a story about some idiot girl.
00:31:26
Although crying at that scene was pretty stupid.
00:31:29
Anyway, my story is is very quick.
00:31:31
I went out with this this girl and she's just a different and I
00:31:35
was probably 2028, my late 20s and she was just a whole
00:31:39
different ball game from what I was used to.
00:31:42
She was from a very small town. She here in Texas, she didn't
00:31:48
care about sports, she didn't care about music.
00:31:50
She didn't care about anything really, maybe except for her
00:31:54
line of work, which was fashion, and which ends up being kind of
00:31:59
ironic because I wouldn't see her as that, as a fashion girl
00:32:03
the whole night. You listen to me this far and
00:32:07
only this show, you already know.
00:32:08
But if you've listened to this show before, you know, I can
00:32:10
talk. You're not going to have any
00:32:12
problem at the dinner table talking to me.
00:32:15
But man, she made me work. Every question was a one word.
00:32:19
Yeah, No, I didn't do that. OK.
00:32:24
Right. I agree.
00:32:26
It was all of those. It was those responses.
00:32:29
And I'm just like, OK. I mean, some of them were like,
00:32:33
well, what did you do for college?
00:32:36
Da, da, da, da. Would you like to tell me any
00:32:39
more about your college life? I mean, it was unbelievable.
00:32:43
At the end of the night, I was like, she hates me.
00:32:45
Like, what did I do? Maybe the shirt isn't working
00:32:48
and we got to the to the car for her car for her to go home and
00:32:53
she just embraced me and like give me a huge kiss.
00:32:57
She's like, I really like you. I was so surprised and I'm
00:33:00
sitting there going what? Because number one, I did not
00:33:05
really like her. She didn't talk.
00:33:07
Maybe it was first aid jitters, but Oh my God.
00:33:10
So I was surprised. Turns out she texted me as soon
00:33:16
as she got back home and she said all I want in life is to
00:33:20
live in a small town in a double wide trailer.
00:33:24
And I'm worried that you don't, you don't want that.
00:33:29
Oh man, I don't want that. I'm sorry, young lady, I did not
00:33:33
want that. And I said straight up, I'm
00:33:35
like, I don't think I don't. If that's what you really want
00:33:38
and that's a deal breaker for you, I don't think this is going
00:33:41
to work. So that's about the extent of
00:33:43
it. For my kind of weird date.
00:33:45
It was just weird. She liked me even though there
00:33:47
was no, it was just crazy. There's no chemistry, there's no
00:33:50
nothing. She didn't want to talk to me,
00:33:51
but then she really liked me, you know, I don't know.
00:33:55
And she didn't want to stay. I mean, it wasn't like she just
00:33:57
wanted to have a night. So anyway, that's my story.
00:34:01
There it is. Dating in a nutshell, it's just
00:34:05
a topic that's fun. And I wanted to, you know, I had
00:34:07
to talk about the, of the airline crash and the
00:34:11
helicopter. I had to talk about that because
00:34:12
it just happened. And I really, really, when I, if
00:34:16
I'm telling you stories about humanity and things that we do,
00:34:18
like love and romance and dating, I can't leave out
00:34:22
something as big as that. It's a huge deal.
00:34:25
And it's something that we all need to be aware of.
00:34:27
So perhaps somebody listening didn't know the details and they
00:34:30
have them and it, and I think it took what, 10 to 15 minutes.
00:34:33
So. But I hope you enjoyed something
00:34:35
along the lighter side, dating. Hopefully the people that are.
00:34:39
Close in my age, you know, to my age, maybe thought back a little
00:34:42
bit about your teenage years and, and reminisce a little bit
00:34:46
about that. And you know, man, I'm glad I'm
00:34:49
married because I, I don't think I don't want to.
00:34:51
I don't know, the AI thing is kind of freaking me out and, and
00:34:54
these robots and I'm happy that I have found somebody.
00:35:01
But good luck to all of you who haven't yet.
00:35:04
You'll find it and and I'm going to keep trying to set my man
00:35:07
Manny up. If you haven't seen Manny yet,
00:35:10
he was a couple shows back and and one show in season episode
00:35:14
313 he started on and then this last one was 427 and he's such a
00:35:19
good dude and and he's just looking for love.
00:35:21
He wants a he wants a a good mom to his future children.
00:35:25
And so we'll keep trying to set him up.
00:35:27
I like his idea of trying to be a love connection show.
00:35:31
Maybe I'll have to entertain that idea.
00:35:34
All right, guys, I'm going to end you here with a quote.
00:35:36
I'm going to end here with a quote.
00:35:38
This is very simple. Every kick in the ass is one
00:35:42
step forward in life. Seems pretty basic.
00:35:47
Something to remember. Love you guys.
00:35:50
See you next time. Find the colors and find the
00:35:53
light in the prey. We'll find our sight.
00:35:55
Little manner.