Is cancel culture just accountability—or is it censorship dressed up in hashtags?
In this episode, Ryan breaks down real cancel culture stories the media won’t touch:
Roseanne Barr’s fall over a tweet
J.K. Rowling’s battle with the trans mob
Kevin Hart’s canceled Oscar gig
Dr. Seuss, Chris Harrison, and more
With nods to South Park, Ricky Gervais, and a mountain of hypocrisy, Ryan exposes the double standards of outrage culture—and asks why only certain opinions are allowed to survive.
🎙 Chapters:
00:00 - Celebrity Hypocrisy & Liberal Brands
02:08 - Rowling & the Trans Debate
06:13 - Censorship vs. Free Speech
14:56 - Real Cancel Culture Cases
27:30 - Kevin Hart's Oscar Fallout
34:28 - Dr. Seuss Backlash
39:18 - Final Thoughts
🎧 All links → linktr.ee/stayinthegraypodcast
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You know what what's happened here, celebrities, large
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companies that harness and distribute those celebrities
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products, if you will, movies and and music and all these
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things, you know, athletic wear that cater to the the
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professional athletes like Nike, like all of them, these are more
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liberal companies. These are more liberal mindsets,
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including celebrities, who are the biggest bunch of hypocrites,
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by the way, that I've ever seen. And it came to the attention of
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the American people just the other day that the program and
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department called USAID has in fact been frivolously spending
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ridiculous money. How about they gave 2 million to
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Morocco to give them classes in pottery?
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This is not a joke. How about there was a Sesame
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Street convention or some sort of whatever in Iraq?
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You just can't. You don't have to like what
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somebody says. You can even say that it made
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you feel offended, but in its proper context, that's not up to
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you. It's just not again, don't
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listen, don't like them, don't don't associate with people if
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you don't want to. But to sit here and say that
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they shouldn't be able to have the opinion they shouldn't be
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involved, they should rot away and and their lives be ruined
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over it is absurd. The woke progressive mindset
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allows these people of like mind of free rein.
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They don't, they're not. They don't have a leash at all.
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Because I've heard it. I've heard people say the worst
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things. They say them about us.
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They say them about people who don't think like they do.
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What are all the things they've called Donald Trump, everybody
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in his, in his camp, everybody that ever associated with him.
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What are what are the words that they call?
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How are these things not offensive?
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Offensive if they want to use that word, but it's OK because
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it's like minded to them. This is the reason I hate the
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woke. This is the reason I don't like
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this progressive mindset. This is the reason it's fading.
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JK Rowling. And obviously if you don't know,
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she's the author of Harry Potter.
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So her big thing right now is the transgender topic.
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She is very adamant about there being 2 genders, male and
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female. She's an advocate for no trans
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in sport and women's sports. She's an advocate for, you know,
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no women in the restrooms, trans women in women's restrooms.
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She's very passionate about it. She has a right to feel that
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way. In fact, there are many, many
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millions of people in this world that feel the same way.
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She's using her platform. But again, she's going against
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the quote UN quote woke agenda, the narrative that there are,
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which is all inclusive no matter what.
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Doctor Seuss. Doctor Seuss was a liberal,
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liberal author, children's author.
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I don't know who started this nonsense on the left, the woke.
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But for somebody to look at those books and claim that the
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characters who are very well known for being unique, the
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Grinch, kind of the hair everywhere and the The Lorax, I
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believe one of them's called and all the different names for them
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to call those characters racist is I just have no words, which
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is rare for me. Welcome to stay in the great
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podcast. We explore news that gets people
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talking by blending comedy and controversy.
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I'm Ryan. And I'm Trey.
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Together, we dive into tough topics with a combination of
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humor and some insight. To join us as we navigate the
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Gray areas of the world and engaging in real conversation.
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Come get to know us. All right, I'm fired up.
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I'm ready to roll. Let's do this thing.
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I'm finally hitting a topic that I can't.
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I don't even need notes. I made them, but I don't need
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them. This is something that's been
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eating at me and eating at me, and it's finally time to call it
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out. It's finally time to assess it
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and tell you my thoughts, and that is cancel culture.
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Let's talk about cancel culture. I tell you what, we're now at
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the point to where I think we can start to say it's going
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away. Otherwise I might worry that I
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would be cancelled. So let's get right into this.
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Let's just go. Have you been afraid to say
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something recently? Have you really taken the time
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to think about it, to say, hey, I better not say this even out
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in public, paranoid even, you know, clicking likes on social
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media, clicking especially X Twitter.
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I mean that that doesn't go away.
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You can see everything you've liked.
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It's a little harder on some of the other platforms to dig deep,
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but it's there. People are scared to do
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anything. So I'm going to talk a little
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bit about that. I, I feel like, I mean, some of
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my friends would would, you know, a couple in particular
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were just so scared that I was going to be cancelled, that they
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would be cancelled by proxy because they associate with me.
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I mean, they would be, you know, we'd be at on the golf course
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and they'd be like Ryan, you know, don't say that no one even
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that bad. But it was just like, I mean,
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what's the fucking car girl going to hear it and like, you
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know, spread the word, cancel the Ranger coming out to to
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speed up play. I, I don't I don't understand.
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But everybody had that for a long time had this, this
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mindset. So let's go.
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Fortunately, like I said, it seems to be fading.
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I absolutely hate it. I hate it, I hate it, I hate it.
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Anybody that knows me knows that.
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Anybody that listens to the show knows that.
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And I want to be challenged. I don't think you can, but I
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challenge you to try and challenge me on this.
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I just don't know why people think it's OK to censor people.
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It's OK to, to tell people how to, to react, how to talk, how
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to speak it. It doesn't make any sense to me.
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Who do you think you are? That's what I'm going to dig
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into. It's synonymous with woke in my
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opinion. I think it all came about the
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same movement. Woke, woke ISM progressive
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mindsets and, and with that came the cancel culture.
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It came. Oh, no, you say something to
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offend somebody, you must be a piece of shit, so we're going to
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take you away. All right, here we go.
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So my question is, who are these virtue signalling social justice
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warriors who think their opinion is more important than somebody
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else's? It's unbelievable to me that
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these people think my opinion isn't as valuable as their
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opinion. Oh, it's beyond me.
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I'm going to fling my notes. You know what what's happened
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here? Celebrities, large, large
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companies that harness and distribute those celebrities
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products, if you will, movies and and music and all these
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things, you know, athletic wear that cater to the the
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professional athletes like Nike, like all of them, all of them.
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I think there's a couple that that haven't catered to it, but
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these are more liberal companies.
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These are more liberal mindsets, including celebrities who are
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the biggest bunch of hypocrites, by the way, that I've ever seen.
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And I hate hypocrites. So let's talk about those
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celebrities. It came to the attention of the
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American people just the other day that the program and
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department called US aid has in fact been frivolously spending
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ridiculous money. How about they gave 2 million to
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Morocco to give them classes in pottery?
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This is not a joke. How about there was a Sesame
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Street convention or some sort of a whatever in Iraq?
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What the hell? And that was like $20 million to
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teach them about fucking Sesame Street.
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This is crazy. We need to look into this, but
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that's not what the show's about.
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But the bottom line is one of the things that this company,
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USAID, invested in was paying these celebrities to go over and
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get photo OPS with Vladimir Zielinski of Ukraine to make it
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look like all of these celebrities were on board with
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Ukraine. So anyway, cancel culture is
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censorship, nothing more, nothing less, period.
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We cannot do that. You just can't.
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You don't have to like what somebody says.
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You can even say that it made you feel offended, but in its
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proper context, that's not up to you.
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It's just not. Again, don't listen, don't like
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them, don't don't associate with people if you don't want to.
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But to sit here and say that they shouldn't be able to have
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the opinion, they shouldn't be involved, they should rot away
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and and their lives be ruined over it is absurd.
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So the question was brought to me, do people deserve second
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chances that have been cancelled?
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And and of course, my initial reaction is what are second
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chances? Like what do you mean the second
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chance of what? To change their opinion to
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yours? What do you mean second chance?
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It doesn't make any sense. You're going to cancel them for
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their opinion, but then the next time they come around, they're
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you're not going to cancel them if they have the same opinion.
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People should change and cater to you.
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Don't give me get get that bullshit out of here.
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It's unbelievable. Oh boy.
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Let's dig into story time, real life stories.
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What is cancel culture First, if you stuck with me this long so
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far, you can tell I'm pretty riled up and I have a lot to say
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and it's all getting mixed up. I'm OK with that.
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You'll be OK. Cancel culture, a lot of people
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say it's it's having accountability.
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Well, according to who? Who makes that decision?
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Who says what people should be accountable for and what and
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what they shouldn't. Then some call it like a modern
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day mob. Justice for what?
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Crimes? For saying something having in
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their own opinion. These types of rhetoric are
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dangerous. The main definition is people
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who say or do something offensive.
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OK, that's the basic bland definition of it.
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But again, I'll, I'll do it one more time.
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Offensive to who? Somebody who disagrees with you.
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OK, fine. They are welcome to to share
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their opinion. They're welcome to say they
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don't like your opinion and they're welcome to move on and
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either never talk to you again or try and have a conversation
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with you and understand where you're coming from.
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But no, they want you cancel. They want you eliminated.
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Let's play a video because again, I'm kind of talking in
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circles, so I'm fired up. I'm going to play a video for
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you, put it over there. And this is, I think I've posted
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this on social media before, but it's Ricky Gervais.
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I think it's Gervais. Or do you say Gervais?
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Either way, it's Ricky Gervais something.
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And I really like this guy because he tells it like it is.
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He goes and he yells at the celebrities at, at the awards
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that he hosts. And I appreciate that.
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I respect that. And he calls out his own and,
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and he, and he should, he basically tells them that they
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don't have a clue on what it's like to be, you know, working
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class citizen, which they, they don't.
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So don't tell working class citizens how to vote, how to,
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how to believe, how to, how to live life.
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You don't, you have no clue. You're very fortunate in one
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regard that you have all this money and that you made it in
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life at a fun job. I say that some people say it's
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stressful and, and not fun at all.
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I don't buy it. I think I'd, I think I'd have a
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blast. Whatever debate that on on your
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own. Anyway, here's the video and I
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think he's dead on here. That's the thing about offence,
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isn't it? When people say they're
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offended, it's that just because you're offended, it doesn't mean
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you're right. You know, it's offence is about
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feelings and feelings are personal.
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Some people are offended by equality.
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So what you know, so you can't second guess people.
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If you try and please everyone, you'll please no one with comedy
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as well. You've got, I think you've got
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to deal with taboos and contentious issues and sometimes
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you deal in irony and some people don't get that.
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But you know, you can't legislate against stupidity,
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otherwise you'll be doing nothings, you know, because I'm
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I'm not doing it for the 200 egos in the room.
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I'm doing it for the 200 million people watching around who
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aren't winning awards, who aren't millionaires.
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And freedom of speech is so important these days.
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I've reached the age now where I don't care anymore.
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It's a sin to not to joke about all the bad things.
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That's a waste. Because that's exactly what we
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should joke about. It gets If you can laugh in the
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face of adversity, you're bulletproof.
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I like that line. If you laugh in the face of
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adversity, you're bulletproof. And I think there's something to
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that. Everything he's saying is, you
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know, just because you're offended doesn't mean you're
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right. That's exactly the message.
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And I let it go on because he said some other things that I
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agree with as well. And it's this idea that we need
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to laugh again. It's this idea that we, we, we
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need to laugh at the bad stuff. We've got to find a way to
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handle situations better as people, as humans, as friends
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and family, as neighbors, whether it's down the street or
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neighboring countries. We have to figure out a way to,
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to talk and to to not get butthurt about every single
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thing that happens or every single thing that somebody says.
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And that's true right now, right now in this country, in this
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world. It's just no one wants to talk.
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And I've said it a million times.
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So I won't, I won't keep going. But you can see how frustrated
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this this topic gets me. If you think that you haven't
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said something in your life that could be construed as offensive
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or inappropriate to somebody, anybody.
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Or is it only a certain group of people that can be offended?
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Is it only victims in your eyes? Is it only minorities?
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Are white straight males who seem to be the target these
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days? Are they allowed to be offended
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by something that you've said in your past?
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I have a feeling the rules are different, but if you haven't,
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if you think you haven't said anything, I challenge you to go
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back and really assess some things.
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You know, maybe we need a group to go back and check your social
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media and make bring you to reality a little bit.
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Maybe you'll maybe you'll loosen up the reins and loosen up the
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talons on some of these other people.
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So let's talk about real life stories.
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Let's talk about celebrities. Let's talk about situations
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where cancel culture came into play in the last few years.
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Like I said, I'm I'm ecstatic that it's gone.
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I have a really, really very important person in my life, a
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close friend. And he has said he finally
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believes that it's gone. And if he says it, it's true
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because he was one of the ones that was in my ear saying you
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got to be careful. And of course, I wasn't always
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careful. Fortunately, I'm still here and
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growing slowly but surely. Thank you all.
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Let's talk about Roseanne. And some of you probably thought
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this is where I was going to go first, or at least in the list
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somewhere. Roseanne in 2018, her show was
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coming back. They were doing kind of the
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reboot of it. And they had all grown up, the
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kids grown up. John Goodman had lost a ton of
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weight, looked a little old. And and I think I thought
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Roseanne looked good. I think she still does for her
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age. And she apparently made a racist
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tweet. That's the accusation.
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No, let's talk about this. Let's dissect it.
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And before you guys get all crazy on me and all angry, I'm
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not going to defend this act. I'm going to throw it out there
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and I'm going to give you both sides and let's see what you
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think. I know the answer.
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Most of you are just going to go with this, but let's let's talk.
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There was an Obama advisor named Valerie Jarrett.
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I believe that's how you pronounce it.
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African American woman apparently.
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I'm going to have the guys put her picture right over there and
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I'm not sure when exactly they're going to do it, but
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you'll see what I'm talking about.
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There could be some argument that she's not, doesn't have a
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lot of African American in her. Either way, it's fine.
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But she was born in Iran and I, so I, I, you know, there's a lot
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and there's, since she lived in London and she's been all over.
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So culturally, I think there's been a lot of whispers about her
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attachment to Islam, which has been debunked.
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She is not a Muslim. And if she was, it's fine.
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Get all these disclosures before I continue with everything I
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say. But you'll understand why I said
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that in a second. Roseanne didn't like Barack
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Obama's policies. Neither did I, nor did a lot of
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people. Instead of just accepting it,
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Roseanne did take to Twitter, what was back then Twitter and
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which wasn't as forgiving as it is now.
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And she said the following about Obama advisor Valerie Jarrett,
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if Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes had a baby.
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And again, I'm not sure if the guys are going to put her up now
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or if they've already put her up or if they can put her up, put
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her up again. Look at the picture.
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I'm not going to say anything. I'm just going to say look at
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the picture. And then you decide, is it mean?
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Yeah. Is it racist?
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I don't know. People have attached this label
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to anything that has to do with primates as being racist.
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Why I, I call my little sons monkeys when they're jumping on
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the couch. They're white boys.
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I mean, if it's obvious, that's one thing.
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But do you think I don't know? I just don't know.
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I mean, look at the picture. Planet of the Apes.
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I don't know. I mean, is it inappropriate?
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Maybe. Is it racist?
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I'm not so sure either way, but the the Muslim Brotherhood is
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apparently one of the oldest in Egypt, the oldest sections of of
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Islam. And I think there was something
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to that. Roseanne heard some rumor that
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she was actually helping them or doing something.
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Either way, that's not the point.
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The point is she tweeted something and boy, did she get
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cancelled. The president, ABC, this Wanda
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Sykes, who was a producer, who I think she's hilarious, but man,
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she's she's far off when it comes to all this social
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politics and the woke and all this.
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And of course, Sarah Gilbert, who's the lesbian daughter, not
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on the show, but in real life, she's a lesbian, which is fine,
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but she tends to kind of follow that mindset as well.
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And they were just livid. The president cancelled the show
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the next day, even though it was going to look to be one of the
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the top shows for the reasons of cancel culture.
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Roseanne show is no longer. They ended up bringing it back
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and I forget how long it took them and they called it the
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Connors, which is the last name of the family.
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And they made it out to where Roseanne, her character died.
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I didn't watch it because I refused on principle to watch a
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show that, you know, couldn't let somebody apologize and move
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on from it. They they were going to by God,
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Roseanne is finished in this business and you know, they try
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to do a a a remake when the whole show was about Roseanne.
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The name was right in the in the title.
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She was the mom. She was the you know, kind of
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her her reaction to everybody in the family was what that show
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was based on. Now, John Goodman was great.
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The kids were OK. This isn't ATV critic show
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analysis but to cancel like that, bring back the Connors and
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expect you know they had a a quick boost because of all the
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woke. Like we're going to tune in.
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And then it just fizzled. And I don't think it ended up
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doing very well much to my happiness.
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And again, it's not about Roseanne being right or wrong.
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I can admit that was OK. Look over the top.
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Did you need to do it? Probably not.
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I'm I've just, I mean, I'm on that camp.
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Don't don't sit here and tell me I'm, I'm saying that saying that
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you should be able to to say those things.
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But if you do say those things, come on, say, say that was a
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little too far, you know, whatever.
00:20:55
But, you know, you're basically trying to wipe this person from
00:20:59
the from the face of entertainment because of one
00:21:02
tweet. She might have had something to
00:21:04
drink. Who knows?
00:21:05
I mean, again, you're not perfect.
00:21:08
You're not perfect. And neither is Roseanne.
00:21:10
And, you know, that was it. So it's just everything's
00:21:13
racist. Everything's racist.
00:21:15
You know, she couldn't make a comment even though this person
00:21:18
may or may not You look at the picture again, Google it may or
00:21:23
may not have a resemblance to the planet the apes character.
00:21:28
Something about the cheek structure and the bone structure
00:21:31
and you know, is it is it racist?
00:21:34
Everything is. So I'm frustrated.
00:21:36
I feel like we're diminishing true racism out there because of
00:21:39
a stupid tweet. Anyway, just, you know, I
00:21:44
thought about it and I started thinking, what if somebody on,
00:21:48
you know, Sara Gilbert, the daughter, the lesbian that came
00:21:52
out and said, you know, she I think she was on the view for a
00:21:54
while, which again, that's a a whole cackling thing.
00:21:56
And that that that's where Ricky Gervais was giving that speech,
00:21:59
by the way, was on the view. And I've made my opinions about
00:22:03
that show abundantly clear. And Sara Gilbert's on it at one
00:22:07
point. And you know, what if, what if
00:22:10
one of the show cast, what if the little dude that the
00:22:13
brother, you know, tweeted something about a Trump aide, a
00:22:18
Trump staff member or a Republican or something like
00:22:21
that and said the same thing. I'd be very interested to see
00:22:27
what happened to that. What would happen to that
00:22:29
person. The woke progressive mindset
00:22:33
allows these people of like mind of free rein.
00:22:39
They don't, they're not, they don't have a leash at all.
00:22:41
Because I've heard it. I've heard people say the worst
00:22:44
things. They say them about us.
00:22:46
They say them about people who don't think like they do.
00:22:49
What are all the things they've called Donald Trump, everybody
00:22:53
in his, in his camp, everybody that ever associated with him?
00:22:57
What are what are the words that they call?
00:22:59
How are these things not offensive?
00:23:02
Offensive if they want to use that word, but it's OK because
00:23:06
it's like minded to them. This is the reason I hate the
00:23:09
woke. This is the reason I don't like
00:23:11
this progressive mindset. This is the reason it's fading.
00:23:16
Period. Next case is an interesting 1.
00:23:19
JK Rowling. And obviously if you don't know
00:23:23
she's the author of Harry Potter.
00:23:26
A woman who was struggling author and had a dream on a
00:23:30
train about a wizard went through a bunch of publishers
00:23:34
and a bunch of agencies that denied her and finally someone
00:23:38
took a chance and boy did they make the right call.
00:23:42
I admit that I even got hooked into them myself.
00:23:45
As a as a writer, I was fascinated by her ability to
00:23:49
story tell. She used to get into it with
00:23:52
Donald Trump all the time. She didn't like some of the
00:23:54
things that he was doing, but granted, now she's kind of had a
00:23:58
change of heart. So her big thing right now is
00:24:00
the transgender topic. She is very adamant about there
00:24:03
being 2 genders, male and female, in case you didn't know.
00:24:07
And she's an advocate for no trans in sport and women's
00:24:11
sports. She's an advocate for, you know,
00:24:14
no women in the restrooms, trans women in women's restrooms.
00:24:18
She's very passionate about it. She has a right to feel that
00:24:21
way. In fact, there are many, many
00:24:22
millions of people in this world that feel the same way.
00:24:25
She's using her platform, but again, she's going against the
00:24:31
quote UN quote woke agenda, the narrative that there are, which
00:24:36
is all inclusive no matter what, let's cater to the .6% and screw
00:24:43
everybody else. And she's not OK with that.
00:24:46
And a lot of people aren't OK with that nowadays.
00:24:48
And I think that's why it's changing.
00:24:50
But you had tons of old fans, I call them the Screaming Wokies.
00:24:56
And they, they were just, they lost it.
00:24:59
They actually had the balls to say she should not receive any
00:25:04
more royalties for her work. That's not how it works, people.
00:25:10
You can't just not pay somebody what they're contractually owed
00:25:15
because you don't like what they said.
00:25:17
It's beyond me that there are people that think that that
00:25:20
could happen. And I read it in multiple
00:25:24
places. This isn't just something I'm
00:25:25
spewing out there. This is insane.
00:25:28
The the things that people were saying about her and, you know,
00:25:31
bookstores stop selling her books, which again, private
00:25:35
business. We'll get to that in a second.
00:25:37
Fans disowned her as poor, you know, Harry Potter.
00:25:41
Of course, Radcliffe and Emma Watson, who are the actors in
00:25:45
the book, owe everything in their career to this author
00:25:49
turned on her. A We do not, we do not condone
00:25:54
what J what JK said, we don't. Who cares, Radcliffe?
00:25:58
You just just be hairy and be quiet.
00:26:00
You're lucky that she wrote that book.
00:26:03
But the crazy part about this is that her books still make
00:26:09
millions, her movies still make money.
00:26:12
And was that attempt at cancelling her was a fail?
00:26:16
Was it a fail? Or was it just cancel culture
00:26:20
starting to end and there were just, there were just that many
00:26:23
people that enjoyed Harry Potter and unfortunately, JKI
00:26:28
apologize, I'm not familiar with the work that you did after.
00:26:31
I know she did like a pseudo name that tried to sell books
00:26:35
under a different name. And I don't know how it went for
00:26:37
it. But either way, like I said, she
00:26:40
she's hate Trump now. She's commending him for all the
00:26:42
things he's doing to, again, keep trans women out of women's
00:26:46
restrooms and out of women's sports.
00:26:49
Again, these are those two things, right?
00:26:51
There are good conversations to have.
00:26:54
You know, he's very adamant about the Olympics, about some
00:26:57
of these other things, collegiate swimming.
00:26:59
Collegiate is just everything. And let's just talk about it.
00:27:03
He's not once said he doesn't think that transgender people
00:27:06
should exist. That's what's I'm hearing, that
00:27:09
he wants to white, He wants them to disappear.
00:27:11
No, he doesn't. He don't want to erase them.
00:27:14
He just wants these case by case topics to be addressed because
00:27:17
it is something that is more complicated than just either
00:27:22
trans people do whatever they want or they don't exist.
00:27:26
There's a Gray area, people, and that's what we need to keep
00:27:29
talking about. So next, Kevin Hart might
00:27:33
remember this one, 2019. One of my favorite comedians.
00:27:36
This guy is hilarious. He just is.
00:27:39
I just love how he embraces how short he is and he and he uses
00:27:43
that into he can make fun of himself.
00:27:45
He can make fun of his own race, black people, he can make fun of
00:27:49
white people and it, and I'm good with all of it.
00:27:51
It's great. But anyway, he was supposed to
00:27:53
host the Ox Oscars in 2019. Of course, the infamous tweet
00:28:00
that a couple of them came up to the surface and people were
00:28:04
claiming that they were homophobic tweets.
00:28:07
Now, I read what the tweets were, and as you all probably
00:28:10
guessed, I don't care. I think back in the day when we
00:28:14
were growing up, it was, it wasn't meant to be derogatory
00:28:18
towards the entire group of gay people, but if you look at
00:28:22
something, you're like, oh, that's gay.
00:28:25
It was just like saying, oh, that's not manly or that's
00:28:30
whatever. And it wasn't.
00:28:31
It wasn't meant to insult, even though I can see now how it
00:28:35
might. And we don't use it anymore.
00:28:38
You don't hear it that much. But this was a long time back
00:28:40
and he used it in one of his tweets and he was talking about
00:28:44
his his three-year old son at the time.
00:28:47
I believe he was three, maybe two who brought who.
00:28:50
He said if he ever brings home a Barbie, he's going to look at
00:28:52
him and say that's gay and throw the Barbie out.
00:28:56
Then it was part of a a bigger joke and people lost it.
00:29:01
It was just because he was using the word gay.
00:29:03
He said he he you know, he wouldn't understand.
00:29:05
It would be real hard for him if his son was gay.
00:29:07
So he's going to do what he could because he's not gay.
00:29:09
He wants to be able to bond overlooking at women.
00:29:12
Again, it was all part of his comedy.
00:29:14
I'm not a comedian. I'm not going to try and, and,
00:29:16
and, you know, deliver his presentation to you.
00:29:21
But that's the point is that it was something taken out of
00:29:24
context. And even though he apologized
00:29:27
for it years before this Oscar's event was going to take place,
00:29:32
no, no, no, cancer culture has no no time limit, apparently.
00:29:39
And so they said, you need to, they said apologize again or you
00:29:43
need to step down. And he said, you know what?
00:29:45
No, I'm not going to apologize. This is a long time ago.
00:29:49
I said it, you know, if you look at the context, it's a joke.
00:29:53
It's a comedy act. I shouldn't have to apologize
00:29:56
and I'm not going to. And of course, they went ahead
00:29:58
and replaced him. Then he came out and apologized.
00:30:00
He had to cave. I, I get it.
00:30:04
And if you're at that point in your career, you've got to do
00:30:06
it. I mean, I, you know, I, I hate
00:30:08
to think that I would, I would do it, But what about you?
00:30:12
Anybody that's like minded to me, would you cave and go ahead
00:30:15
and apologize? Seems like that's what everybody
00:30:17
did. Anybody that was under the under
00:30:19
the microscope for saying something offensive apologized.
00:30:22
And, you know, even today, I think there was an issue with
00:30:26
the what what sort of Caitlin Clark, the female basketball
00:30:29
player who who she was always not not having it.
00:30:33
And then all of a sudden she kind of gets around some
00:30:35
celebrities. She was in the box with Taylor
00:30:37
Swift at the Chiefs game. And now she comes out and she
00:30:40
makes all these statements and all these apologies and all
00:30:42
these this and that about different things.
00:30:47
So people are still doing it anyway.
00:30:49
Much respect to Kevin for trying to stand up to it, but I'll just
00:30:55
do a couple more quick ones because they bother me so much
00:30:59
that I had to put them in. I may or may not watch The
00:31:04
Bachelor in The Bachelorette with my wife.
00:31:08
It's bonding time. I also turn on the football game
00:31:10
every once in a while. I turn on the football game a
00:31:13
lot. All right, stop it.
00:31:14
Enough out of you people. But the host, Chris Harrison,
00:31:20
for the longest time now it's Jesse Palmer, the football
00:31:23
player in college and analyst. I think he played in the pros a
00:31:25
little bit. Either way, Chris Harrison had
00:31:29
been on that show for 19 years. I believe it was 19.
00:31:33
It's a long time, people. And he defended a young lady who
00:31:38
was getting just blasted cancel culture for this lady on social
00:31:44
media because there were pictures in her college years,
00:31:49
which I think I think it was like 4 years prior, I think she
00:31:51
was young of her wearing a Deep South antebellum themed dress to
00:31:59
a antebellum themed party. My goodness that is so racist.
00:32:05
Of course it can't just be that this was whole her culture and
00:32:11
then not every single bit of the antebellum past in the Deep
00:32:15
South was bad. Heaven forbid it's the only the
00:32:20
the racist part that counts. Do you remember that back then
00:32:26
it was considered the norm? A young girl in antebellum S
00:32:31
didn't know the difference. Didn't didn't know better.
00:32:35
It sucks. No defense of that ever.
00:32:40
But to say you have to completely wipe your whole
00:32:43
culture clean because some of that culture may or may not have
00:32:49
included having slaves, it's too much.
00:32:52
It's too far. And Chris Harrison saw that and
00:32:56
he defended her. He said, lay off.
00:32:59
I believe her name is Rachel. Lay off her.
00:33:02
The ironic part to all this was that the Bachelor, she won, by
00:33:08
the way, the Bachelor chose her. The bachelor was black.
00:33:12
How racist is she if she wants to be with a black man long
00:33:18
term? I think they got engaged on the
00:33:19
show. Look, bachelor bachelor people
00:33:23
correct me if I'm wrong, but they were, they were in it for
00:33:27
the long haul and I think they they made it quite a while
00:33:30
despite all this. Then they had a show where they
00:33:32
came back and he said I need you to put in the work.
00:33:35
Well, whatever the fuck that means.
00:33:37
Then everybody's coming down on her and she caved.
00:33:40
I'm so sorry. No, you don't need to be sorry.
00:33:44
You can say, oh, general, sorry if that's really upset anybody.
00:33:47
But look, I was just going to a fucking theme party with a
00:33:50
beautiful gown. I don't care what you think.
00:33:53
Those gowns were cool. If you don't like the gown, you
00:33:57
can say that, but don't sit here and call her a racist just
00:33:59
because she got into a gown. All right, come on.
00:34:03
But anyway, so he he finally quit and he said, you know what,
00:34:06
I'm done. I, you know, people were saying
00:34:08
like, hey, he'll come back maybe.
00:34:10
And, and I think he finally said, I have enough money and I
00:34:14
don't need this bullshit. That's exactly what he said.
00:34:17
So and he's here in Texas with us.
00:34:19
So Chris, we miss you. And I mean, if I had ever
00:34:22
watched the show, I miss you. So the one that really got me,
00:34:27
and then I'll kind of stop. The one that got me was Doctor
00:34:31
Seuss. Everybody knows Doctor Seuss,
00:34:34
the Cat in the Hat, Green Eggs and Ham, a bunch of other ones.
00:34:38
I, I, my, my brain has left me. I'm so fired up.
00:34:42
Doctor Seuss was a liberal, liberal author, children's
00:34:46
author, and he's not here. I wish he, he, you know, it's
00:34:50
easy to go after a guy when he's not alive.
00:34:53
And I feel like I don't know who started this nonsense on the
00:34:58
left. The woke But for somebody to
00:35:01
look at those books and claim that the characters who are very
00:35:05
well known for being unique, the Grinch kind of the hair
00:35:10
everywhere and the The Lorax, I believe one of them's called and
00:35:13
all the different names for them to call those characters racist
00:35:19
is I just have no words, which is rare for me.
00:35:25
Those characters were actually, according to people close to
00:35:29
Doctor Seuss, were actually meant to to be unifying because
00:35:34
they were all different. Not one of them looked like a
00:35:37
regular normal human being of modern day.
00:35:42
Not one of them had any type of race, racial features, or they
00:35:49
were just all characters. And that was part of his, his
00:35:52
whole intent. But somebody out there decided
00:35:55
they were going to start this narrative and and guess what?
00:35:59
I went and bought multiple copies of of all his kind of
00:36:02
most popular ones because I was afraid they're going to wipe it
00:36:05
out. Like how about 1984?
00:36:08
No more books? How about Fahrenheit 451 by Ray
00:36:12
Bradbury burning the books? It happens.
00:36:16
And man, I never thought I'd see it in this country where I have
00:36:20
to be worried about a damn children's book being burnt
00:36:22
because somebody made-up some bullshit about it being a racist
00:36:26
by a guy that was completely, completely liberal and not a
00:36:29
drop of racist blood in his body.
00:36:32
So go buy some more Doctor Seuss books.
00:36:34
And thank goodness that that kind of ended.
00:36:37
I think people kind of said, all right, whoa.
00:36:39
So I'm just happy we have shows. And let me give a shout out to
00:36:42
the to the guys. No, I don't know them
00:36:46
personally, but Trey Parker and Matt Stone from South Park, they
00:36:51
are The One Show. There may be a few that kind of,
00:36:56
you know, jumped on their coattails, but they're the ones
00:36:59
show that because they give everybody a hard time.
00:37:03
They call out everybody. There's not a side, there's none
00:37:06
of this bullshit. They call out everybody.
00:37:09
They have called out cancel culture and some of those shows
00:37:12
are absolutely fantastic. All the South Park shows are
00:37:15
fantastic. Those are my guys.
00:37:16
I just much I'm I'm a few seasons behind fellas, but I'll
00:37:21
catch up soon. I just, it's, it's an
00:37:22
incredible, the series by two guys that just they get it
00:37:28
instead of coming together and talking because no one will,
00:37:30
they're basically saying, all right, fine, we'll just bash all
00:37:32
of you. And I admire that.
00:37:35
So kudos to South Park, which brings me to hypocrisy.
00:37:39
There were a few cases where some of these people were like
00:37:42
lynched. I call it lynched.
00:37:44
You don't like that word, but I'm going to use it because it's
00:37:45
appropriate by the woke mob for something they did.
00:37:50
And then all of a sudden they're back because they caved.
00:37:54
How about this? There's a director, James Gunn,
00:37:57
known for Guardians of the Galaxy, Marvel, all those.
00:38:01
And he had some some tweets that were considered, I believe the
00:38:05
racist was what it was. But after one year, he
00:38:08
apologized, he grovelled, he caved, he played ball with
00:38:13
whatever they wanted and they reinstated him.
00:38:16
He signed on with the company and he's directing again.
00:38:19
A lot of people say that Marvel needed him after I guess the
00:38:23
film came out and it wasn't as good.
00:38:25
I don't know enough about Marvel.
00:38:28
There was another one, Logan Paul.
00:38:30
This is an example where I think fans just didn't care what he
00:38:33
did. And, you know, it's kind of
00:38:35
weird that what he did, he he took a picture of a dead person,
00:38:40
a dead body in Japan's suicide forest and laughed about it and
00:38:46
made some some comments that probably weren't very, very
00:38:48
nice. And everybody at first was like,
00:38:51
Oh my God, this guy, he's done. You know, he's going to get
00:38:54
cancelled. Nope.
00:38:55
He's more popular than ever. He's a professional wrestler and
00:38:59
a businessman. And it was like nothing ever
00:39:02
happened. He did apologize, but it was a
00:39:05
very basic apology from what my understanding.
00:39:07
And he took a small break and came back and bigger than ever.
00:39:10
So sometimes people let things go.
00:39:12
So where's the line is, is my question on that?
00:39:15
And that was quick. And that's few and far between,
00:39:17
honestly. So I'll end, I'll, I'll end.
00:39:20
I'm just going to ask you who makes these decisions, who think
00:39:25
about it, who are the ones that that say, man, we're going to
00:39:30
cancel this guy who's the one that says what he just said
00:39:33
there is completely inappropriate and should be
00:39:36
censored? Who makes that decision?
00:39:40
Well, I believe that private companies can make the decision
00:39:45
about what they choose to do. I've always said that in the NFL
00:39:50
when Colin Kaepernick decided to kneel and everybody's like why
00:39:52
he should be playing, well, it's not up to you.
00:39:55
It's up to the the private NHL franchises to bring them on.
00:40:00
You can employ who you want. That's that's the deal.
00:40:03
At least that's the way it should be.
00:40:04
If you own a company, you should employ who you who you want.
00:40:07
You don't have to be employ anybody.
00:40:08
That's the way it should be. So yes.
00:40:12
All these companies have the right to not employ these
00:40:16
people. If they say something on social
00:40:18
media, if the company doesn't like something that I say on
00:40:21
here, they have a right to not hire me.
00:40:24
Is it right? Again, who am I?
00:40:26
I'm not going to be a hypocrite. Who am I to make that call?
00:40:30
If they want, people can do what they want, but both sides, not
00:40:35
just one. So that's the point.
00:40:38
I feel like, you know, they might lose projects, though.
00:40:41
I, I just don't, I don't understand in a, it's maybe a
00:40:46
case like Roseanne where you're going, man, you would have had a
00:40:49
hit show. And if she did come out and she
00:40:51
said, I'm really sorry what she did, and she could say that was
00:40:54
just dumb. I had five glasses of wine and
00:40:59
it won't happen again. If this was the 20th time she
00:41:02
did it, I get it. But ABC made a decision.
00:41:06
We found out what they're all about in the last six months or
00:41:09
so, and they have a right to do it, but I also have a right to
00:41:13
call them out and tell them that they're being petty and then of
00:41:15
course, not watch any programming on their channel.
00:41:18
So what are your thoughts? Do you think cancer culture is
00:41:22
going away? Do you think it was redundant
00:41:25
for me to talk about it today or whenever you're listening to
00:41:29
this? Is it something that you care
00:41:32
about, something that you were awake, awake to now?
00:41:36
I mean, did, did, did, did you even care when it was going on?
00:41:41
Did you look and go, oh, here's another one and just brush it
00:41:43
off or, or, or you, were you one of the people that kind of said,
00:41:47
man, everywhere I go, I got to be afraid because the cancer
00:41:50
culture is on, on different levels.
00:41:52
Obviously, if you're not as as famous as Roseanne or Kevin Hart
00:41:55
or these people, it's not going to affect you exactly the same.
00:41:58
But it could if you get laid off because of something you say on
00:42:02
social media in your life changes.
00:42:05
You can't get another job, things like this.
00:42:07
Were you afraid in the break room wherever you were to say
00:42:11
something that might be offensive?
00:42:13
What if it was a joke? There's about 3 or 4 years there
00:42:17
were recently where nobody laughed and it sucked.
00:42:22
Thank goodness it's coming back and they're kudos to all the
00:42:25
comedians that tried to fight through it and eventually said
00:42:28
no more. I mean, Chappelle, even
00:42:31
Seinfeld's like this bullshit people with these two guys with
00:42:36
totally different comedic styles, they're all saying it.
00:42:40
So like and subscribe comment if I'm not cancelled and and let's
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keep going with this stuff. Again, I hope you enjoy the way
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that we're talking about some of these issues and versus me just
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basically giving you the news about them.
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You know, those were some issues.
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You've probably already heard of some stories, incidents with
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celebrities you've already heard of.
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Hope hopefully some of them you didn't.
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And you think they're as ridiculous as I do.
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So we're gonna keep this thing rolling again, like, subscribe.
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Every little thing helps. So please do that.
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And we're approaching the end of Season 4.
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We have one more show finale coming up, probably next
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Tuesday. This one will be out Friday the
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7th, the next one will be out the following Tuesday.
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And then the season ends and we've got lots of great stuff
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coming your way for season 5, a couple changes, all good things.
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And got a believe it or not, I've got a guest list and I've
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been saying it, but I've got a guest list of some really
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entertaining people and I think you'll enjoy that as well.
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So take a deep breath, feel offended by something.
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Just remember this. Who cares?
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Just move on. You'll be OK.
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Everything. You know, words will never hurt
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you, right? All right, love you guys next
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time.